Michele

Agreed. You worked your patootie off, and deserve accolades and happy pats. So here are mine... Patpatpatpatpatpat And a bit of horn blowing is due, as well...see? Whhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahoooooooooooooooo Yay for you. Enjoy it, tape it, and damned well flaunt it! Ciels- Micehle ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Yes, well, that is tempting, but it would only lead to additional issues, wouldn't it? So what would be a good response? Simply back away from the issue, and then go find someone who can explain things to you? Or simply bow to their reputation and stop asking questions and stop thinking critically? Just really curious how others handle this, if it happens to them... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

LOL, yes, but still....he registered back in July, and hasn't made a post. He may have stolen your name, but is not attempting to come close to the godlike postwhore you are! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I scored 85.75. And didn't really work it, either. Although, the TV sound kept drowning out the songs in my head...and I also didn't proof read, and so lost a few there because of typos...but I scored big - 10 pts - because I adore the Eagles... And - I got all the bonus songs. Hee hee. (er, I'm not at all sure this is bragging stuff...) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

What if you ask questions. Serious questions. Think things through, and ask more questions...and then get told that, effectively, you should shut your mouth, you don't have enough jump numbers to ask questions, that you are "dense" if you continue to ask questions? What do you do then? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I thought that attempt was on 11/11...which is tomorrow, right? It's still today, isn't it? I dunno, I took a nap and woke up but it's still today. Right? .... Or maybe I took a pain pill and don't remember it. So maybe it's tomorrow today. In any event, whether it's today, tomorrow, or tomorrow today, I hope everything goes well, and that all veterans are remembered on Veteran's Day. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

A little birdie told me that Racenic did his 300th jump on the record setting dive - so double congrats to him, too! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Do you mean me? I have been clocked as slow as 114 (huge ball hugging/de-arching in a 4-way with some great folks), and as fast as 146 (IIRC) on my belly when working for the arch (and before this particular jumpsuit). Being short, chubby and flexible has both advantages and disadvantages... But if you join me in the sky while I'm trying to sit, prepare to laugh your ass off...I can be compared to a beached fish - and any occasion of actual sitflying is purely accidental. But sure, when you come out, and when I'm ungrounded, let's go play and see! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I thought this would be interesting...it just came over the news, and is something rather incisive... MSN Story here And for those blocked... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Justices to hear Guantanamo appeals Should detainees in Afghan war have access to U.S. courts? ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON, Nov. 10 — The Supreme Court will hear its first cases arising from the government’s anti-terrorism campaign following the Sept. 11 attacks, agreeing Monday to consider whether foreigners held at a U.S. Navy base in Cuba should have access to American courts. THE APPEALS came from British, Australian and Kuwaiti citizens held with more than 600 others suspected of being Taliban or al-Qaida foot soldiers. The court combined the appeals and will hear the consolidated case sometime next year. Lower courts had found that the American civilian court system did not have authority to hear the men’s complaints about their treatment. “The United States has created a prison on Guantanamo Bay that operates entirely outside the law,” lawyers for British and Australian detainees argued in asking the high court to take the case. “Within the walls of this prison, foreign nationals may be held indefinitely, without charges or evidence of wrongdoing, without access to family, friends or legal counsel, and with no opportunity to establish their innocence,” they maintained. The men whose names are on that case do not even know about the lawsuit, lawyers from the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights told the court. The lawsuit brought on their behalf claims they are not al-Qaida members and had no involvement in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. FOREIGN BASE IS KEY The Bush administration replied that a lower federal appeals court properly looked to a Supreme Court case arising from World War II to determine that foreigners held outside the United States cannot bring the kind of court challenge at issue now. The 1950 case said German prisoners detained by the United States in China had no right to access to federal courts. The Guantanamo base is a 45-square-mile area on the southeastern tip of Cuba. The land was seized by the United States in the Spanish-American War and has been leased from Cuba for the past century. The lease far predates the communist rule of Fidel Castro. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia had rejected the detainees’ claim that Guantanamo Bay is under the de facto control of the United States, even though it remains a part of Cuba. Solicitor General Theodore Olson, whose wife was killed aboard the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, told the court that the prisoners’ lawsuit has great “potential for interference with the core war powers of the president.” MANY HELD NEARLY TWO YEARS President Bush has recommended that six of the Guantanamo detainees, including Australian David Hicks, be the first to face military tribunals established for the global war on terror. Hicks also is among the inmates named in the appeals. He was captured while allegedly fighting with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Many of the inmates have spent nearly two years in confinement. A group of prominent former judges and diplomats had asked the high court to hear the men’s case. Former prisoners of war also asked that the case be heard, as did Fred Korematsu, whose name is on a Supreme Court case that upheld U.S. detention of Japanese Americans during World War II. The cases are Rasul v. Bush, 03-334 and Al Odah v. United States, 03-343. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I wonder what the decision will be? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Just as a total aside... I have no insurance. And I pay my Dr. cash each time I see him. So, as an "uninsured patient", no one is getting their premiums increased because of me...and no-one is paying the Dr. for me, either. I do not know how I will handle it if it comes to chemo, but I will. So don't worry, your rates aren't increasing because of me. And now, back to the regularly scheduled post war. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

So, when are you going to take the canopy control class, my friend? And when you get your "A", I can't wait to see if I can keep up with you - or if I need to learn to sit! LOL, well done, Aubrey. Well fucking done! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I believe in it, and have not experienced it. I suspect it's kinda rare. I have experienced lust at first glance, though. And I suspect that's far more common. The trick is knowing the difference. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Happy Birthday, Lou!! Here's to a great one, and to many, many more! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Vibes to you! Hang in there - from what I understand, it does get easier. And someday I will quit, too. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I think you're referring to VanillaSkyGirl's sig line, which says... "KUKULU KA 'IKE I KA 'OPUA. Revelations are found in the clouds." It is nice...and I do believe it's Hawaiian, but I am not sure. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Exactly my thoughts. Ed, enjoy yourself. And if I got in the car, and drove really fast, I think I could get there in...uh...well, nevermind. But I wish I could be there! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Naw, according to Rosie O'Donell, that only causes cancer. Well, that and lying. Poor Jessica. I'd send you a pot of chicken soup and give you a hug, but I'm a little far away. Besides, I'm still kinda stiff from being cut on a bit ago. And to top that off, I got sick, too. Does anyone have any concept of what it's like to be sneezing and coughing when you have stitches in your nether regions? Yikes... Much love to you nonetheless...and, seeing as misery loves company, I'll keep you miserable - er, ah, company this weekend via the 'net. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

ROFL, Deuce. Nah, don't bother to kick his ass. 'Twon't impress me...'cause I could kcik any ass needing it should the situation require it. BTW, you already impress me, and you are, to me, a real man. You love the life you have, and, despite the girls and Corine and being - ah, "engulfed in estrogen" - you manage to be who you are, and that is a wonderful thing to be. And cave-mannish forays into physical violence does have it's place...it's just not here. But you, darling Deucey, knew that. Hugs to you! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Yes, I am starting to feel better. I'm walking much better - no longer like an old cowboy with glass in his joints. LOL... I should get my results in abother week or so. They are looking to see what sort of edges they got, and that will give us some direction to move in. Good to hear you're feeling better...and I await the good news I am sure you'll get on Monday. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

You are too funny. Good luck.... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I agree. I don't watch a lot of that kind of thing - my tastes run more towards news, Discover channel, Court TV, etc. Queer Eye sounds boring, frankly. I'd rathe just curl up with a good book or take a hot bubble bath (Sebazz? You listening?) or something. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Hi, Dave... "Men used to be real men. Then women came along and stopped letting us conk them over the head and drag them around by their hair. Now men are all pussywhipped. I miss the real men." That help? And yes, Remster, there is a whole lot of shit floating around in there. Different kinds of feces, all mixed together. What a shit-pile. Ciels- Michele How do you know I didn't read it critically? Entirely? Looking for any redeeming value? How do you know, just because my opinion differs from you, that I did not read it critically and with intention? Or are you just using my post as a platform to respond to? Wow. Growing tide of estrogen? I don't see men being overwhelmed by estrogen. I have never watched Queer Eye, The Man Show, nor have I read Maxim. For the record, I stopped reading "glamour mags" when I was a teen, and decided then it was a losing fight against some idealization of women. This was about the same time I understood that photos therein were retouched, and that if I were to try to ever be small enough to wear a size 2, I would need a bone-ectomy. In other words, things like that are a) not real, b) if they are touted as "reality tv", I have yet to meet anyone in the world I move through who really are like that. Furthermore, if you do not understand, and/or cannot comprehend that there is a huge amount of fantasy and marketing dollars combined to bring people to a made up, bullshit standard, then a simple post here will not bring it to you. And yes, I grew up in an atmosphere where looks were all important - both parents being actors, I had "pretty people" all around me. In the subsummation of her physical needs to conform to a 5th Avenue imaginary idealization, I lost a cousin to anorexia (yes, there were other reasons, but the point remains...). I have seen more plastic surgery, and it's successes and failures, on both men and women, in that environment...and realized early that real life, and real people, don't always look like Princess Grace or Tyrone Power. Additionally, the actors are saying lines in a script...and not speaking from their hearts. As to the Show Everyone Loves Raymond, despite my father's participation on it, I have never watched it. I do not watch sit-coms - and last week, for the first time ever, watched Survivor - which is also intensely manipulated. Therefore, anyone who compares anything but tv to tv is, in my opinion, making a poor comparison, and needs to realize that most people drink beer, sit on the sofa, and scratch their pubes. And I like it like that. That is not uncouth - that is not uncivilized. That is human, and how it is. And actually, real men don't pay to get their hair cut...they just take a shaver/razor, and take it all off . I don't pay but twice a year for a haircut - I cut my own....I guess that makes me less of a real woman. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it. I think, however, that gender stereotyping is pretty dumb. I like muscles on a man, but I don't discount his contributions because he may have small biceps. Muscles on a woman I am indifferent about - I could care less. Me? I'm pretty average, chubby, approaching middle age. I have far more important things to do than think about what kind of hair gel I should get. I've never seen a pair of Bruno Magli's, with the exception of all those OJ photos - it's Payless for me, or tennies. And if someone has issues with that, like Bill said, fine and dandy. They are your issues, and don't make them mine...'cause I don't care. And frankly, I don't have time for a manicure - and neither do some of the kewlist men I know....we are all too busy living our lives, being ourselves, to sit for however long it takes to get one. I don't know any man that pees sitting down. All the men I've been with pee standing up - I know this not because I've taken a survey, but because I have to put the seat down when they're done! There was a time when being considered a woman meant you had no rights...were chattel, and couldn't defend yourself if your husband chose to rape or beat you. I like that it's changed. If you cannot be proud of being you, then you have issues, and gender doesn't have much to do with it. I honestly can't see where any of this is stopping you from being what you consider to be a man. I probably won't bother to cook you dinner, but then again, you probably wouldn't want me to. So if you have problems with the entertainment drama and culture-bleed, then don't participate. It's honestly that simple. And if I was your girlfriend, I wouldn't care what you did with a stripper - it would be over, done with, and you'd be out the door. OTOH, you probably wouldn't ever be my boyfriend, because I want a partner, not a boss. I get that at work, and there, at least, they pay me. Show me where any of us male bashed. I simply stated my opinion. When I read something like that, it turns my stomach - similar to eating a pile of shit. I love men, I respect those that deserve it, and I don't care much about those who don't. Men don't have to be dominant to be valuable...they just need to be valuable. I never said men suck - (

Ah, well, if a girl's gotta be sick and grounded, then the least Stephen King can do for "his number one fan" (that movie was on last night - creepy) is release "The Wolves of Calla" so that she has something to read as she recuperates... What a kind man. He DID! I shoulda waited to let someone buy it for me for Christmas, but I saw it and nearly fell over. And somehow it made it into my Costco shopping cart, and then wow, it made it onto the check-out belt...and now it's sitting on my dining table calling me...."Michele....read me...."...but I will show enough restraint. I will start reading it at bedtime tonight.... Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! And volume 6 is coming out soon, too, and I coulda sworn I read somewhere he will be releasing volume 7 pretty quickly, too. Yeah! Just thought I'd share with all the SK fans out here in DZ.com land..... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

LOL, you are a sweetie. I put up a post called "The Positives and The Negatives..."...and I am going into the office right now - wayyyyyy too bored staring at the walls....but I doubt I'll be there for long. And I am going marketing, because I need to get some stuff into this house. So I am recovering, and making my way back to the land of the living. Thank goodness for that, you know? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

One independent confirmation of his apparently deepseated confusion! ROFL!!! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~