johnny1488

Well first off, throwing a book at someone would probably hurt them. Handing them a book would help them. Like The parachute and its pilot for instance. Or any basic book on aerodynamic principles would remove a lot of mysteries of canopy flight. One of the biggest causes of lack of canopy skill is simply not knowing what makes the thing work. Zero talk of canopies and just knowledge of aerodynamics and physics would make someone a more aware canopy pilot. As far as the internet, I dont know what you were thinking of, but I wasnt talking about internet coaching. I was talking again about reading. PerformanceDesigns.com has plenty of articles specificaly geared towards newer canopy pilots and basic understanding of canopy flight. And no I dont believe coaching is the same as basic instruction. You need instruction to gain your skydiving license. Once you have your license YOU are responsible for yourself. No one else. You need to seek out information, be it knowledge, coaching, whatever you need to be a safe skydiver. If we actually tought what is written in the ISP about canopy flight, secondary coaching would be extra knowledge and not a necessity. I am not against coaching. I am against giving students licenses who are substandard canopy pilots. Stopping the problem at its source would solve a lot of problems. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Books. The internet (dz.com and elsewhere). Manufacturers. Proper instruction from day one. Jumps alone, no. But jumps with a purpose. Jumps that you work on your flying in freefall and then your flying under canopy. Not just opening so you can live to freefall again. I believe it all starts with better instruction from the first jump course on. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I thing I have learned is the longer I am in the sport, the more patient I am. The longer you jump the more you'll see tomorrow is another jumping day. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Is it worth it, probably not. Would most people do it anyway, probably. We all take risks. Pretending they arent there is retarded. But what are you going to do, not jump. Thats fine, but I prefer to stay as safe as I can with the risks that I make. That includes absorbing as much information as I can and being the best skydiver I can. You rolls the dice and you takes yer chances. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I see you are in another dangerous sport and thats cool, but as someone whos seen a few other extreme sports people come and go in this sport let me vocalize my observation. No other sport is like skydiving (with the exception of base jumping) because there is no substitute. You can watch bmx and go buy a bike and you can watch downhill skiing and go down a slope but you cant watch skydiving and just jump right in. The very nature of the sport makes your introduction slow and premeditated. Many people involved in other high risk sports think their experience carries over. No fuckin way. If anything it makes you (no you necessarily) cocky, headstrong and pretty fuckin stupid when it comes to taking advice and doing whats cool instead of whats safe. I can almost guarantee that anyone here who has been "a dick" does so cause they have seen a half a dozen phenoms like you splatter their insides all over a runway/landing area/fence. If you like this sport you will learn to like taking things slowly. Or you will learn to like crutches/wheelchair/inside of a coffin. The preceeding has been brought to you by someone who does not want to see people who might be his friends one day dead by their own inexperience. Call me a dick if you want to but you don't seem to see the reason why people think jumping this "safe" camera is dangerous. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Kinda what I was taught. I was told to "break" the propellar. When you see a side spin usually the student has arms up and legs bent with the instructors arms out and legs back in an arch. Breaking the prop is taking your arms and getting the students arms down at their sides. this takes out half the prop and you will usually start in a head down orientation which can be recovered from. And man was that level 5 a wild ride!! Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Sweet!!! Thanks for your help and enjoy the video. Also I checked out the early 90s national geographic video and saw TomBuch running the show there. Very cool. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

OK its says its there but has to be approved. So when That happens I will THEN post a link. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

well looks like we will have to wait a bit. Gave me an error message when it finished the upload. I'll try and get it sorted asap. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

No make sure whoever is in charge of your guys shirts makes something funny. None of this being serious crap. Whip and fold! Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I think the idea should be to tell the jumper with 65 jumps to not jump a camera rather than tell the jumper with 65 jumps to disconnect their rsl. A lot more jumpers go in from not getting a canopy over their head than camera helmet entanglements. But 65 jumps is no place to be testing this theory. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Should be ready in about 45 minutes. I'll post a link when its done. Check out the long delay at 11:39 and TomBuch's wrap at 11:51 Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I have a nice video I got from TomBuch on Bridge Day '83. I guess it was on tv at one time. If anyone shows intrest I will compress it and through it on skydivingmovies.com. I asked tom and he said put it where ever but i figured I would ask first. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

And as my examiner told me, "there ain't no fuckin boogie man. Just physics." I always liked his explaination. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

As was said follow the manufacturers instructions. That being said I had a nice conversation with a engineer at one of the major rig manufacturers about what heppens when you dont rotate the bag (in most cases). Rotating the bag restricts the bag from getting yanked out with all the force the p/c has to offer. He had pictures of a dbag not rotated that was basicly a u with all the linestows now very slack. The rotation of the bag slows down the initial jerk just enough to keep the bag distortion to a minimum. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Funny I could have been able to dive my xfire into the ground with little effort with the harness from 13k. But then again I am a harness fan! Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

The richest poor man in Gardiner wants a new toy!!! Look out! Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

This is why I am a fan of finger trapping the line BEFORE you make the knot, and the fingertrap will never come out like has happened with yours. See if your rigger will make the loop in this way and you wont have the problem again. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

hmmm, if this and this, and if that and that, then you might have the seperation you don't need. How about horizontal seperation. It shouldnt be that hard to see that is what we want. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

When you say the merits of both orders, what is the merit of FF out first? Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

If you hurt yourself or your passenger sliding in a landing you are doing it wrong! But seriously, you can slide a landing without your ass or even anypart of the student touching the ground. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

HMA and vectran have similar line trim characteristics. Both stay in trim very well over the life of the line set. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

Well I missed you by a week Pete. I flew out of SD on tuesday night. Cool looking little DZ. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I cant vouch for non cascaded, but I doubt cascaded HMA would last as long as a vectran line set. Icarus recommends 5-700 jumps on a line set. I change my brake lines at 300 and have seen more than 1000 jumps on a line set without a line braking. and because it is vectran, it stays in trim very well. Like was said, unless you are at the very top of the swooping ladder, you probably dont need an HMA line set. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome

I personally see this gap filled at my DZ by the gear store. The owner is a world class canopy pilot and takes the time with each and every new student to teach them about the new gear (sabre2/safire2/pilot) and the differences from student gear. Not coaching, but a familiarization. And there is a gap from student world to expierienced jumper. But if the seed were planted that would encourage the jumper to seek out knowledge and an understanding on how little they actually know. Something that would drive them to seek out information via books/internet/ mentors or coaches. There is always room for more information in a jumpers progression. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome