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That all depends on how good it was. If it was really good, you might want it even more than you did initially. (And of course if it was Asian, you will be hungry again an hour later). BEST! RESPONSE! EVER! HA ha ha!!!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

In Paris, au naturelle means sans bain, without bathing. Don't really know what made them holler - wasn't wearing makeup or anything out of the ordinary (black slacks and a boring black top). For all I know they were appreciating someone else, but as there were no witnesses I will claim the compliment as mine "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Makeup has a shelf life. If you've had the eyeliner for years, it's no good anyway. Yep.. Some of the stuff I shouldn't still have anyway, but that's not what I want replaced since I don't use it anymore.. I personally suspect that "shelf life" is a bit of a gimmick to sell more products.. There's no question that a lipstick eventually dries out & isn't any good anymore, etc., but I also don't believe that everything should be replaced every couple of months, like some companies would have you believe! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Interesting.. But once you've had the meal, do you still want it again with as much anticipation/interest? "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

The reality is that several STD's are not just specifically transmitted sexually, but they are termed so because their manifestations affect the reproductive area.. Technically, you can catch/transmit the common cold sexually, but it has no social stigma because the symptoms are unrelated to the genitals. The other fact that many people aren't aware of is that it's possible to have an STD and never know it - several people have no reaction when they catch an STD, or they get symptoms resembling the common cold, so don't make the association. What's more, many STD's can only be diagnosed when there is physical/visible "evidence" of the disease. In other words, you can have/carry/transmit the disease and would "pass" all the STD testing available out there because there are no tests available to verify the presence of the disease apart from it's visible physical effects - if there are any. An example of this is HPV (otherwise known as genital warts), and PID (Pelvic Inflammatory Disorder, though technically many don't view this as an STD because it's often the result of an STD like chlamydia or gonorrhoea). People react differently to the same disease.. Just because one person doesn't ever know they have something, they can still pass it on to someone who *will* have all the classic symptoms/outbreaks, etc. Also, some of the results of STD's are not "obvious".. Like sterility, cervical cancer, scarring of the fallopian tubes, etc. Because it's impossible to test for many diseases, it's impossible to know how common they are. Some diseases like chlamydia can often be pretty much harmless to one gender (men), but quite dangerous for the other (though as mentioned the severity varies tremendously from one person to another). The good news is that many STD's are treatable and 100% curable if found. The bad news is that there is as yet no known cure for herpes and HIV/AIDS - these are with you for life. Some people with herpes only ever get one outbreak and then never gets sores again for the rest of their life (but they will always carry the disease and be contagious), but generally it's more frequent (say, once every few weeks/months). "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

It is estimated that 70% of American population is a carrier of HSV-1 (the virus that causes "cold sores") - that is a different virus than the HSV-2 (the virus that causes genital sores) ... O Yeah.. FYI - you can have herpes (1 or 2) and *never* have symptoms. You can also pass it on even when it's not during an outbreak, although it is less likely. Nothing protects you 100% as skin to skin contact occurs even with condom use. Plus if you share things like a glass or a spoon with your partner the "cold sores" (aka herpes) can be passed on from one person to another. It's also possible for the common "cold sores" to be passed on to the genitals, as even though one strand (can never remember which one) is more commonly found orally, it can occasionally make its way downstairs as well. Sorry.. Studied human sexuality in WAY too much detail in one university course.. Even I was amazed at all the stuff I *didn't* know about in spite of all the sex ed they teach in school. At the end of the day, it's great that the guy was honest. Might be a good reason to get to know each other's personalities quite well before thinking of taking the next steps.. At least that way you will have an idea of whether you're prepared to take the risk. Tough one. At least you've got some choice in the matter. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Actually, it's mostly the sex Is it? Or is it the anticipation.. Actually, go ahead and answer seriously guys - now I'm curious. (And as this is my thread, I reserve the right to go off topic!!!) "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I'm not so worried because I always put away my toothbrush (it has its own little case). This is because I think sometimes they might spray stuff on surfaces when they clean, so I've just always been a bit anal about where I leave my toothbrush (pardon the pun) "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Hmm.. Walked right into that one Seriously - it was nice to come home to voicemails and texts

I got hollered at in Paris, which I found rather surprising after so long of not being hollered at in London.. Some nationalities are a bit more vocal than others. I did smile a bit, but only after an appropriate amount of time, so that like a naughty child he would get the message that it was "not amusing"!!! As for the OP - you're probably kidding yourself.. You didn't "give" her anything - sounds to me like she *earned* it herself!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Yeah - and so it must have been the "Throwaway phone" that she was using when she called me . . . WHATEVER! Boys.. Isn't it the chase that you like?? Just think how bored you would all be if I answered every call!!! And besides.. I can't really be expected to answer the phone all bloody day/night Actually, funny thing about it is I noticed 4 missed calls from the same person + 3 texts.. Hadn't previously noticed she was such a close friend. Made me feel all warm and fuzzy

I'm sorry.. Perhaps my note wasn't clear.. If you refer to the third diagram, I think you will find they were not meant to be consumed orally "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I accidentally left my phone behind when I set off for Paris.. By the time I realised I didn't have it with me I was half way there.. Although I was a bit stressed about not being able to meet up with my friend when I first arrived, I'm actually rather delighted that I didn't really feel like I missed it at all

Well, just because she used my personal stuff doesn't mean she has some weird fetish about bristles!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Well yes, but she signed a contract and agreed not to do this sort of thing.. I'd feel slightly more sympathetic if she had stolen something useful like money, because then I might think she *needed* it.. I'd also feel more forgiving is she had "borrowed" something more hygienic like perfume, because at least no one really suffers any real loss as there is no problem to re-use the stuff.. I made the point to the hotel staff that I could understand the temptation, etc., and that I was only looking to get my stuff replaced - how they deal with their staff is up to their own judgement. Although I feel that it would be a bit extreme for her to get fired, I also think she is responsible/accountable for her own actions. Maybe it's the only time she's ever done anything like this, but people rarely ever do something only once - especially if they keep getting away with it... If anything, in time people get bolder and behaviour gets worse if it's never nipped in the bud. I too hope that a reprimand will do the trick, but it should definitely not be ignored. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Yeah.. I just kept thinking of the hundreds of toilets that lady cleaned before she dipped her fingers in my facecream - which had also been used.. Eww, eww, EWWWWW!!! I brought it up to a different manager today who took the matter seriously. If she's underpaid, it's less reprehensible but it doesn't change the fact that I bought all that stuff over a long period of time.. I may make more money than she does but I can't afford to replace all my makeup all at once.. It's not that much, but it's still my hard-earned money that I don't want to spend again. I thought of leaving the stuff behind, but this only occurred to me after I checked out.. Still... EWWWWWW!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I'm not sure that's really a "problem"!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

You're a sweetheart. That was a nice thing to do.

Quote>My point was about all the hypocrits who claim to care about animal walfare >and the environment and and when the discussion is over they drive away in their >Hummers with the premium leather seats... I agree, there are a lot of hypocrites out there.*** Yeah.. I once met a hard-core vegan who was very passionate about saving animals, etc, but she had the most devine (real) leather coat.. I couldn't quite reconcile the idea that eating the cow was inhumane, but skinning it was ok?!! I'm not saying you have to be a 100% purist in order to make a difference, but I did think this particular case was odd, to say the least! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

See, like you, I can't really bring myself to feel any ill-will toward the cleaning lady for that very reason.. But on the same token, it's still gross and now I have to throw away the little makeup I have.. I think I would feel less upset if I wore makeup all the time and bought the stuff all the time; so maybe I would consider it a "regular" expense instead of a luxury.. I'm now going to spend ages without anything because I just can't justify to myself spending money twice on something unnecessary.. Just the same, I now have nothing for the odd occasion where I might want to just dress up a little I suppose it's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.. Probably should have known better, but I don't travel all that much so it never even occurred to me. I still think it's weird/gross to use someone else's makeup!! I can much more easily understand trying on someone's perfume!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Maybe that's because the hotel management take customer complaints seriously over there!! I got all my stuff stolen out of a motel once (in Canada of all places) and ever since I basically don't bring anything of value when I travel. Never thought of putting my "beautification" stuff away, though!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

Ohhh.. I see.. That makes sense.. Maybe I should point out the other stuff in my letter, although they dealt with each thing as it happened, so I didn't feel the need to pursue further.. With the makeup I don't think that offering a free breakfast is an appropriate response.. I take your point, though - and thanks for clarifying

How you know the bellhop has been using your makeup: MWAAA HAA HAA!!! Oh dear.. If he needed my makeup so badly I might consider a generous donation.. Poor man *obviously* needs help looking "beautiful"!! Edit - to downwardspiral: your comment about deodorant was obviously rude and UN-pc... But still very funny "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

I picked the kids, but wouldn't want either guy!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss

That's for sure.. I did the obvious stuff like I took anything valuable with me every day and locked up what I could't carry if I went out.. It just never occured to me that anyone would want to use my makeup!! Like you said.. Lesson learned.. You're right that there is a limit to how much I should pursue it, but I'm not rich and makeup is super expensive in London... I think a letter to their management is still in order. After that, probably not much I can do. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss