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Incredible. Also this from another report - "Trump and Pratt developed a relationship after Trump won power in 2016 and Pratt joined Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s members club in Florida. In 2019, Trump attended the opening of a Pratt Industries plant in Wapakoneta, Ohio, also attended by Scott Morrison, then the Australian prime minister." For everyone up in arms about the unsubstantiated allegations that Hunter Biden tried to get his dad on the phone with people who'd given him money - this guy paid a ton of money directly to Donald Trump's own business after Donald Trump was elected President, and in return he received nuclear secrets and an official visit from 2 world leaders to his business. And that's just what we know of.

We know you don't, because everything you say is aimed at getting Trump reelected.

“About two-thirds of Americans (66%) say they are at least “somewhat worried” about global warming. This includes 30% of Americans who say they are “very worried” about global warming,” Quite some gradation. Anyway, what does that have to do with you flat out lying about the contents of your first link? We both know you did it, so why don’t you just admit it?

No it wasn’t, you absolutely lied. Why can’t you admit it?

‘Somewhat worried’ isn’t scared. You flat out lied about the contents of your previous link. Just admit it.

That's a clear lie, as your own link demonstrates.

Errr, sorry but you’ve lost track of your own conspiracy theory. In this scenario they would be the people trying to create the fear, not the people who end up afraid. And again, if creating fear was the goal they could scarcely have chosen a worse vehicle for it.

What I don't get is who needs Google to tell them Jordan Peterson is a sneaky fucker. It's just so obvious as soon as he starts talking.

Makes no sense. The problem with the climate emergency is that it’s fundamentally one of the hardest things to get human beings to worry about. It’s a fairly abstract concept, with no easily demonstrable cause and effect and consequences that mostly happen a long way away or a long time in the future. It’s an incredibly difficult thing to get people to care about, much less be scared of. Scary immigrants and OMG the border on the other hand…

Matt Gaetz says he has 60 Republicans ready to vote with him. Just imagine going to work and choosing to be part of a project led by Matt Gaetz. Thinking: that guy right there, he’s my Captain. Matt Gaetz. Wow.

The cynical view would be that it's a good move to step aside in a meaningless case involving a bit part player, so in future you can point to it and say look, I recuse myself when I need to!

Yeah - literally no one wonders why.

Lol, 'cos who could possibly want to hear what an ex - VP with 40 years of Senate experience has to say? What's Kushner getting paid $2Bn for his investing expertse like?

Why? What does that have to do with cashless bail?

This one’s almost too horrible to post. At the height of the #metoo movement a Republican politician said he’d previously been been suspended from college over sexual harassment allegations he claimed had been fake - including that at least one woman had feared for her life around him. The right wing culture warriors obviously believed him, and Trump and DeVos used him as the poster child for repealing Obama era guidance, thereby making it harder for sexual assault victims to get justice and protection, and easier for predators to get away with it. He has now been arrested for murdering his girlfriend, dismembering her body and dumping her in a garbage bag on the beach. But I’m sure the MAGA crowd still think he was innocent the first time around. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/30/metoo-california-murder-rachel-elizabeth-imani-buckner-joseph-roberts

Just curious whether you agree with the premise of that article that Joe Biden really is a good candidate, or if you just wanted to call Brent a bedwetter? (Assuming you didn't just read the headline and make a massive assumption about the contents)

There's no reason for Biden to lose to Trump. After all, he's a normal, honest politician and Trump is a corrupt, thieving rapist who shit all over the US government in favour of his own family when he was in the White House. If you don't want Trump to win, why don't you talk about that? The election won't be held today. It'll be held late next year, by which time Trump will be a many times convicted felon on treason and corruption related charges. If you don't want Trump to win, why don't you talk about that? Obama supports gay marriage today. He's supported it for a decade. See this is what I'm talking about - it doesn't matter who the Dem candidate is, you'll fnd any way possible to attack them. They could nominate the second coming of Jesus and you'd say he's unelectable against Trump because he used to hang out with hookers - and completely fail to see the irony. And seriously, what were you talking about with the Clinton nepotism thing? If you can't explain it, but you also refuse to say Trump was guilty of unprecedented nepotism with official White House positions, don't you see that you're just proving me right?

Say that again in a way that makes sense? Regardless - Joe Biden is a winner. He is the only guy who has beat Trump. The only way Trump could possibly beat him is if you and the people you support are successful with the evidenceless character assassination campaign you are running. Which, by the way, we all you know you would do with any candidate the Dems put up. No matter the facts, you'd loudly and constantly accuse them of some imaginary malfeasance, all while staying utterly silent on any of Trump's real, proven crimes and corruption. Unless you just blame it on Clinton. And seriously, what did you mean by deflecting Trump's nepotism onto Clinton? Or was it just a mindless knee jerk response and you really have no idea what you were talking about?

Why do you think Bill Maher is a MAGA Trumpist? I just said he isn’t and you are. But again - just look at you steer the conversation away from any criticism of Trump. You cannot say anything bad about the man. You complain that we’re talking about Trump because he’s not the President anymore (even though this is a thread you started about Trump) and yet you just threw back to Clinton to avoid having to comment on Trump’s outrageous nepotism. And again, what did you even mean by that? How is anyone supposed to believe that you don’t want Trump to win the election if he is the Republican nominee?

You started this thread to discuss the upcoming election that Trump will be running in. Honestly man - this was yesterday. It really shows how badly you think your argument is going if you already have to deny the premise of your own thread. You credulously parrot every single Trumpist / MAGA attack on Biden, no matter how imaginary the accusations. At the same time, you flatly refuse to acknowledge anything that Trump has done wrong. Even things as obvious as the unprecedented level of nepotism show by appointing his own family to numerous high level White House position, all you are willing to say about it is 'mumble mumble Clinton mumble' (and I'm still waiting to hear what you think you meant by that). No one but a dyed in the wool Trump supporter would constantly defend him the way you do. The idea that you actually want the Republicans to lose an election in which he is the candidate is simply laughable.

Difference is that Bill Maher isn’t actively campaigning for Trump, but you are. Again, you say that you don’t want the Dem’s to lose but you’re adamant that Biden was involved in corrupt dealings with his son despite it being a made up charge from the Rs with absolutely no evidence having been provided. You say you want Trump to lose but when the undeniable nepotism and corruption of his administration is pointed out all you can say is ‘mumble mumble Clinton something’. (Still waiting to find out what you meant, by the way) If you don’t want Trump to win then you should stop supporting him.

We all know what Hunter was offering, but he's a private citizen no-one can stop him from doing that. But we also said the Trump family of senior government officials got over $2,000,000,000.00. What do you think they sold?

Are they both too mental to accept them, though? Chesebro thinks he's got a good case because he was 'just throwing stuff out there' and Powell doesn't live on this planet. Mark Meadows may be the weakest link for Trump now, given that he's already been caught red handed perjuring himself in the attempt to remove the case to Federal court. The self preservation instinct must be kicking in by now.

Brent: Prove it! Bill: Proved it. Brent: Why are we talking about this?

That was about Trump's Ukraine phone call. The don't be a sheep, think for yourself was 'chef's kiss'.