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What happens to your one-dimensional perspective if it's pointed out that God wasn't angry about the sexual immorality, he wasn't angry about the supposed plot to destroy the Israelites, he was angry because the Israelites showed respect to the Midianite's Gods while they were guests in the Midianite's homes, and that's why he wanted them all dead? How's that vengeance? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Oh well that's OK then, once you've made a slave marry someone it's completely different. No such thing as spousal rape, amirite? Even if we accept your thesis though, lets have a look at what that means. I know you enjoyed the last analogy so let's expand it a bit. God orders you personally not to have sex. After a while though you're suffering from a pretty bad case of blue balls so next time you're driving past the red light district you stop for a quick doorway knee-knocker with one of the local slags - even though you know most of them are dirty. A little later you find out you've got VD. Now this is clearly the hooker's fault and not yours since she provoked you with her wanton female wiles. So you go back and find out where she lives and stab her to death. As you're leaving her bedroom, soaked in blood up to the elbows, you notice a small boy peering out at you from the kitchen. You think to yourself "This kid looks pretty angry. If I let him grow up he might remember who I am and come back to kill me" so you beat his head in with a skillet. Now as you leave the kitchen, mother's blood and son's skull and brain fragments dripping off you, you see a small girl look at you from the hallway. "Well" you think to yourself "this feeble girl can't possibly hurt me. If I take her with me and hold her long enough Stockholm syndrome might set in and she'll think she loves me. Then when she's old enough I'll make her marry cousin Bob, no girl would ever date him by choice." So you zip tie her hands behind her back, drive her back to your place, lock her in the basement and only let her out to clean the house and perform other chores. How much does that sound like what God would want you to do? Show me. And chose to grant favour to one tribe who disobeyed him and vengeance to the other tribes who disobeyed him. So what's that about? So why were they allowed to live after one sacrifice and the women not? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yes, because some of us live in the real world. According to your assumptions you live somewhere else, in a land with many more rainbows and unicorns and fairy dust. Moses makes that pretty clear. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Absolutely nothing... unless you slot a God who is the font of all goodness into the middle of it. Then it makes no fucking sense at all. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Nonsense. Widespread rape is an inevitable consequence of the order. Unless Moses is as clueless about human nature as you he knows exactly what's going to happen when you tell a bunch of soldiers drunk on battle to take a large number of female slaves. Yes, it's called reality. Tell me a culture where female slaves don't get raped. Because that's what the book said he did. Besides, like you say, they've had the plague already. Not going to make things worse, is it? Why wouldn't it? It's what always, always happened at that time. And, as you've made clear, there's no expectation for the children of God to behave any better than the barbarians. OK, so the Midianites had sex with the Israelites (and who's fault is it that the Israelites couldn't keep their dicks dry, by the way?) in a plot to piss of the Lord and remove the unfair advantage of the Israelites. In return the Israelites use their unfair advantage to help them actually wipe out an entire civilisation. And not with sex, but with swords and fire. You're right, God didn't order the Israelites to be as bad as everyone else, he ordered them to be worse. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Only if you assume a bronze age tribe wouldn't rape their slaves and prisoners. And there really arent any words for just how obtuse that assumption is. That's if you rape a person. Slaves aren't people, perish the thought! You really need to take your own advice and put things in the context of the time period you're talking about, rather than keep displaying your ignorance of their social order. And you are accepting that a God who is the font of all goodness commanded his followers to be no better than the barbarians that surrounded them, but it's ok because that's how everyone acted back then. I thought you guys hated moral equivalence? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Point of order for the headline writer - aluminium doesn't rust. The rest is good though. Interesting to think how many jump planes would qualify for tax free classic status if they were cars. And also, just how rubbish most of the cars that were designed around the same time as our aircraft really are compared to current models. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Wow, seems like a miracle of God that such a typical family history has survived all the way to what it has become today... It is what it is. We still hold the copyright on the original. I'd take issue with the word 'typical' applied to any epic works from such an early time. It'd be like saying the Iliad is typical of Greek writing 2800 years ago or that Gilgamesh is typical Mesopotamian writing from 2000BC. It's the birth of written language - I don't think there is a 'type'. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Not much...rather than assimilating captive children into a viable culture, they just leave them to wander as orphans in the wilderness Yeah, killing their mothers, raping them and then keeping them as slaves is so much more civilised than killing their mothers, raping them and leaving them behind. Your explanation of the bible does sound so much better than Bill's. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So, you think raping slaves and prisoners wasn't an uncommon practice 2500 years ago? I've got a bridge to sell you Fair enough. Now that you mention it, I don't know why I would expect the servant of God, acting under God's direct command, to exhibit any more morality than the barbarian tribes surrounding him. What do you think of the pillaging rapist rebels in Africa? Any chance they could be acting under the command of a righteous God? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Really? 'Cos that's really stupid, and shows a fundamental lack of logical thinking. And we'll add a fundamental lack of class to that as well. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Well there's your problem. It's not that Bill's account doesn't jive with what the words say, it's that it doesn't jive with your modern assumption about what the words meant. And your modern assumption doesn't jive with what the words say. Sorry bro. So that made it ok, did it? If you fucked a hooker, got chlamydia and then murdered her for giving it to you would you be a) fully justified or b) an evil bastard? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The first bit, definitely. Zero context and of course it's being used to illustrate an argument rather than seriously propose that it happens. However they do let her 'explanation' the next day ramble on in more detail - it does seem pretty clear that she equates being moral with going to church, and at no point does she say "I don't really think mandatory church attendance would be a good thing". I get the impression that she kinda does, she just knows she can't. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

No, it's not a real proposal but only because she understands that it "would never be allowed". I think her comments in this video indicate that the 'proposal' really is in line with what she actually thinks. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

"It's not dangerous. You can drink a quart of it!" "Ok, drink some." "I'm not an idiot" "So it's dangerous?" "No, not at all." "So drink some" "I'm not an idiot" "So why won't you drink it?" "... You're a jerk!" Beautiful. Reminds me of, well, here Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Unless the side of a mountain is now considered a prime target... ???? A plane full of people is a target, as numerous hijackings and bombings throughout the history of airline travel will attest. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Explain. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I'm sure that's how it reads through the tint of your glasses, but that's not how it's written. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Vague rule of thumb on European kit is that it gets slightly smaller as country of origin gets further south. Scandinavian, German and Swiss is normal, French and Italian come up a bit small (and some aero Castelli is tiny). Sugoi (Canadian) is also pretty well sized. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

No, but I know it happened, just like I know Iraq happened. Seriously, how did you manage to forget about that, and what was your point trying to be anyway? I never pretended to forget. My commanding officer told us we were being deployed. I took that order and did my job without question. At the time we thought we were doing the right thing because the president made that call. Just like today when you see obama deep throating Hassan Rouhani's johnson. Huh? No, I meant how did you forget that the US started a war in Iraq this century, and what was your point trying to be when you asked the question. I'm honestly intrigued. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

No, but I know it happened, just like I know Iraq happened. Seriously, how did you manage to forget about that, and what was your point trying to be anyway? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yeah right, there's a distinction worth making. And he might be there now - was he there thirteen and a half years ago? What would he have called it then? What about 9 years ago? What about 5 years ago?* How generous of you. my two questions though; 1) How in the name of sanity did you manage to forget about the Iraq war even after I gave you the date it started? 2) What was your point anyway? * Since you missed the significance last time - I picked those dates for a reason. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

1,2,3,4 and 10 - plus 6 depending on your definition. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Are you for real? I even gave you the dates and you can't figure it out? Afghanistan. Iraq. Hey Regulator, you said you were waiting... Got any comments ready yet? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Source? this site This site has the power to demand alterations to academic papers? That sounds kinda crazy. Do you want to have an ideagasm?