jakee

"Donald trumps on again I'm happy leaders okay but this guys a great point man I'll follow this MAN to the end of the world" Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Ray Winstone. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yes, and you are making my point. As an elected government you don't want to be seen as Machiavellian, it will allow the other side to get elected. Being see as being Machiavellian probably means you aren't very good at being Machiavellian. If you do it properly they won't notice Do you want to have an ideagasm?

There are so many problems all through your list but I'm just going to pick on this one because its so much wishful thinking. First, Russia's aggression outside its borders is mostly against its bordering nations - so do you interfere or not? Second, Russia don't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks about them. They do what they want to do. So what are you willing to give them to get them to do what you want? Do you want your President to go begging to Putin like a supplicant? I highly doubt it. But you're suggesting that they shouldn't. Or if you think they should be treated differently than everyone else, why? And what about other 'worthwhile' employees? What about, say, CIA and FBI employees fighting against Islamic terrorism, aren't they good enough for a pension? And the atheist teachers, muslim teachers, gay teachers... they can all talk freely about their lives as well? You don't think the military should train in the states? You going to carry out all military excercises in Puerto Rico or what? And finally, again, what is it you're going to be doing to make this stuff happen? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

No, it's great. It's just not a complete solution, which you seemed to suggest it was when you said this; Just think if everyone that talked about this stuff just went and did it directly instead of using a middle man. My point is that if everyone who helped did it directly with someone local to them then there would be massive inequalities in the charitable aid being received by those vets. Which I already made pretty clear. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

And if gold coins fell from the sky we wouldn't need social security*. But if your goal is really helping pople then you need to deal in reality instead of idealism. I'm not really sure what that has to do with this thread, or why it's bringing out your snarky side. * Until the price of gold collapses, obviously, but let's not get bogged down in the details. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Sure, but then you get the same problem as schools. Vet's who live in nice places get loads of help, vet's who live in poor neighbourhoods get jack. If your goal is to help people instead of feeling good about helping one person then organisations who can spread resources over wider areas need to be funded, and that means writing a cheque. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yep. Tony Blair was desperate to be instrumental in supporting the US push to war in Iraq and at best put huge pressure on our intelligence agencies to find intel supporting that mission, at best used the resulting intel despite surely knowing it was highly dubious and at worst just flat out lied. What I'm still confused about is Rush, despite his well documented cynicism about everything else the government does, insisting that the Bush administration's part in creating the war it had always wanted was completely pure and above board. It's a heck of a display of cognitive dissonance. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The government now lies with impunity? But ten years ago they didn't? OK, what about the Clinton administration? Lewinsky aside, do you think the government was honest then? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

If shooting him in the first place wasn't criminally negligent, what the hell does that count as? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Unless you're in a massively underfunded and understaffed PDs office and the only thing you have time to do in most cases is pressure the accused into taking a plea deal. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Ut Oh. We have an anti-vaxer here boys, step back and don't make eye contact. Um, LOL Wut? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Eh? That was what you posted as fact. He posted it as irony. Rush, I'm pretty sure you believe that the highest levels of government government are capable of lying, and do lie about, literally everything else they have a hand in controlling. We know that much of the intel justifying the invasion of Iraq was faulty and that some of it was deliberately falsified. What is behind your insistence that Bush couldn't possibly have been anything but an innocent dupe? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

OK. Show them saying something similar to JGooses comment. Show the Germans saying that Germany is exceptional and all other countries suck in comparison. (Spoiler alert: You won't because you can't) Are you saying that, in general, Americans don't think America is superior to other nations? Do you think there are other countries and/or forms of government equal to or better than the USA? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Truth or Fiction states that the rumor is true. https://www.truthorfiction.com/military-purge/ The following link was taken from the above mentioned site and is quoted therein as well. http://www.standupamericaus.org/breaking-news/obama-purging-the-military-197-officers-in-5-years/ Y'know, all those hysterical links and stories say that the turnover of officers under Obama is 'unprecedented' but none of them say what the precedent is. Have any of them bothered to check what the turnover was under Bush, Clinton or Bush or is this another of those "EVIL OBAMA DOESN'T ATTEND FUNCTION THAT oh wait loads of other presidents didn't either"...? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Would you say the same to the guy who stated last week in this forum that all other governments suck in comparison to the USA? I don't think any of them say that their country is the greatest country in the world. I don't think any of them coined the phrase 'European exceptionalism'. I don't think any of them said 'Everyone else sucks compared to us'. The idea of an American moaning that other nationalities are too smug is Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Please tell me that's a reprinted 'Onion' article! Please? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

And with the best bits of todays ethics. In some moral areas we are waaaaay ahead of the old timers. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

IMO, the legal profession is on top of the heap. Attorneys make a living from the chaos. So does Michael Savage, apparently. BTW, you never said how you're going to be working to make that stuff happen... Do you want to have an ideagasm?

It's not a cyclist thing, it's an idiot thing. (Although to be fair, cyclists do have form going waaaaay back ) Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Why one year? How? How many drugs was he on? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Of course not. And do you think a tube worker who wrote 'fuck off' on an official sign and put it out on public display would be condoned by his superiors? Heck, do you really think it's real and not a photoshop? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

this ONE??? maybe In general? Well, your post is bull shit But his post is about this one, so it isn't bullshit. And in general, Ron is attacked fo his beliefs. Not because his beliefs are christian though, but because they're xenophobic, jingoistic, ultra partisan and he's usually a dick about the way he expresses them. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Government? Are you talking about the guy who works in a tube station or the guy running for president? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Right, Don just mentioned all of those factors, and pointed out the problems with trying to use them to create a gradeable hierarchy of performance. So when the question is still 'How do you propose to do this' the answer isn't as simple as 'you just do', y'know? (Fantastic post by Don, BTW. Best thing I've read on here since nerdgirl left) Do you want to have an ideagasm?