peacefuljeffrey

Cool! Glad to know there are other players around here. It's most excellent that you managed to find free lost discs! Down here, near Ft. Lauderdale (actually it's Coconut Creek) there's a good, big course with concrete tee pads and professional "holes" (Pole Holes) and everything. I used to go there every week (back before skydiving took over my life ) and play with their club league. They had a big winding lake that ate discs by the dozens. This guy Mike, who was called Swamp Dog, used to skin dive for discs. He would spend a day doing that for a few hours, and come up with -- literally -- 30 to 50 discs, easy. He would sell them for a buck to this guy called "Used Disc John," and "Udje" (pronounced "yooj") would sell them to us for two bucks, after he bleached the muck off them and cleaned 'em up. He was nice enough to hold onto your disc if he recognized your mark on it and knew you. He would offer it for buyback to you first before putting it in the open market bin. I haven't played in a long time now. I miss it, and I want to start doing it again some on my weekends... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I don't get it. Are you saying you can't fly head down? I thought you could! Aren't you like a serious freeflyer? -Jeffrey ????? Jeffrey... I think you and I have a communication problem. How did you get that out of that??? I would not ever call myself serious , but yes... I can fly on my head! Well, then, you're ahead of me! I guess when I read the part where you said "Need to fly on head NOW" I took it to mean, "Damn I want to learn how to do that head-down stuff yesterday, dammit!" Forgive me -- it's late! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Anyone else carry a Zippo lighter? I do, but not because I smoke. I just think they're awesome. When I was in high school, I'd never even heard of them until a friend and I were in the mall and he was looking to get one because he had recently heard of them. "They're cool, they're like windproof and reliable," he said. So we found a kiosk that sold them, and after he made his purchase he looked at me as if I were nuts, because I was not also getting one. So, since we were both working and flushed with cash (high school seniors with no bills but with good jobs) I laid out for one of my own. Soon I loved it, and was never without it, and then went on to buy other models. (That first one was a black matte finish regular sized lighter.) Over time I've found out more about them, and learned some tips about using them. - Carry extra flints under the pad, between the pad and the cotton wadding. I keep two spares there, so I have a replacement for my own lighter, and I can spot one for someone else if need be. - To get the lighter to light reliably on the first flick of the flint wheel, open the lighter low, like at your waist, and briskly raise it up to chest level before sparking it. You will clear out the chimney and get a good fuel-air mixture, instead of a flooded mixture that won't ignite but will instead just puff. (There was an old episode of some creepy show where a guy bets someone that he can't light a Zippo ten times in a row without a failure. This technique will make it work, and you can win the bet. They re-did this wager in the film "Four Rooms.") - If you have overfilled your Zippo lighter with fuel, it may seep out of the lighter in your pocket and give your leg a very uncomfortable, itchy, irritated chemical burn rash -- "Zippo burn," we called it. Try not to overfill your lighter. If it is overfilled, light it, and hold it away from you and fan it quite vigorously. Careful -- the lighter will FLARE UP! You will burn off excess fuel more quickly. - If your lighter fails to light even though the flint sparks well and there is plenty of fluid, it may be because the wick is coated with carbon from burning. It's simply dirty. You need to trim the wick. Open the lighter, remove the screw that holds the flint and flint spring/follower. Remove the pad. Use a tweezer and remove the wadding. (It is in several pieces. Place them on a table in sort of the same shape/order they come out and they will be easier to fit back in.) Use the tweezer to pull the wick up through the hole to the top of the lighter. Do not pull it entirely out. Cut it about a half inch down, where the burned-looking part ends. Pull back down into the lighter so that the normal amount of wick shows out the top. Stick your finger into the chimney and hold the wick against the side of it, to keep it from receding or pulling out any farther, while you stuff the cotton wadding back inside the cavity. Make sure to put some wadding right against the top of the inside of the cavity, then lay the wick (use the tweezer) between pieces of cotton so that it will always be kept moist with fluid, and also will not be so kinked. Lay the cotton back in more or less the same way it was before. Place the pad back, insert the flint, screw in the spring, and top off with fuel and reassemble the lighter.

Roger. Just wondering. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Darlin', you would too if you were as freakin' bored at work as I have been all night! Hey, they've been thought-provoking whore posts, though, haven't they? I even got someone stating that she has to go do some thinking because of me! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

BLESS YOU! ...but why did you write "skyes"? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Audience??? WTF. you dont honestly think people turn on dz.com to read your posts do you? Apparently you hold a very narrow definition or understanding of the possible uses of the word "audience." I'm not paid to teach you, so I'm really not interested in taking this further. If you want to deliberately and wilfully misunderstand what I'm saying, I give up. What else can I do? When did this become about impressing me? We've been talking in the abstract about the need or lack of need for adherence to proper spelling, and then by extension, grammar. I don't give a rat's ass if I impress you, and I was NOT the person who originally mentioned people "looking unintelligent" or however that was expressed. As a point of fact, your misuse here of "then" instead of "than" indicates that you care about "passing along a smile," and "THEN" (which means "following; subsequently") impressing them with your grammar. The word "than" is NEEDED there (by our little "standards") because the use of "then" utterly changes the meaning of what you said. The point is, when you lapse from standard written English, you ENDANGER the clarity of the point. Please find me examples of posts within the last, oh, year or more in which I chastised someone without it being meant in humor for mispelling or using poor grammar -- outside of this thread and any thread dealing specifically with this topic. The truth is, though I am by profession a proofreader, I DO let it all slide. That doesn't mean I'm not rolling my eyes and wondering why these people are engineers and nurses and pilots and can't manage to master something simple that really doesn't even ever change, like grammar. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

It is not a crutch, it is a standard, accepted, convention so that the greatest possible clarity can be achieved in written communication. I note with dismay that it seems that defense of such deterioration of the written language comes most frequently from those unwilling or unable to master the intricacies of it. And they're not really very hard to master. Kids memorize dozens of button-press combinations in order to beat enemies in video games, but it's too tough for them to gain a command of "there" and "their"?! Come off it. Any defense of that is just frivolous. This is a great example you've provided. It illustrates how awful it looks when people don't bother to either use the right word or use apostrophes. These standards are not mandated by my profession. They are mandated by common sense. To not have some degree of standardization is to have chaos due to the inability to communicate. We could totally relax standardization and end up with every state essentially being like a Chinese province, with the people of New York not able to understand a movie made in Hollywood because the dialects are so disparate. Apart from, "It's just easier to be lazy about it," what rational arguments can be made for the necessity of allowing language to degrade and become less homogenous? Is your claim that Old English transformed to our modern English because people said to hell with the "rules"? I doubt very much that a significant portion of the population ever really even SAW written language much at that point in time, let alone knew how to read and write it. So I venture to say that it was not "variety" or "diversity" that was causing the change in English at the time. It was probably due far more to the fact that when everyone's SPEAKING the language but hardly anyone is WRITING it, there is bound to be discrepancy about how certain things should be written or spelled. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I brought a pint of grape tomatoes to work with me today, and about an hour ago started eating some. ..."some." Way to put it mildly, Jeff. I've eaten about 4/5 of the package already. They are so good I can't stop! And since I know they're like 99% water, I don't figure it's a bad thing... it's not like they're a bag of M&Ms! I just hope I don't end up suffering for this in some way... ...A whole pint of grape tomatoes...! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Cool...your butt dialed 911......Damn that's funny... Does your pecker dial 900 sex lines?? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

DAMMIT! You beat me to it!! Actually, when I first saw the thread title, I thought, "Easy. VOMIT. Gets rid of lots of swallows." -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I agree about the ground thing. My mom died in a bedroom of her home, and I still see the home once in a while, and the thought crosses my mind of "I wonder if there's still 'energy' from here in there..." Is "phobea" the New English spelling to replace the archaic Olde English "phobia"? Ooops, wrong thread! LOL! So much folklore offers as "fact" that violent deaths cause the spirits of those killed to haunt the places where they died, or the objects associated with them. And I agree with you -- if that were true, instead of quaint myth, then the world would be awash in spirit activity, for there is nary a place where someone hasn't died, it seems. And Europe would report a FAR higher parapsychological activity level than anywhere else would. I don't know that they do not, but I haven't heard that they do. Your artifacts give lie to that notion, don't they? Swords that have been used in lethal battle that don't bear the spirits of those they killed... imagine that. Takes the wind out of the sails of those who "want to believe." Besides, what kind of negligent, lackadaisical God would set up a system in which people's souls could get "lost" and not make it where they are supposed to go after the body dies?!? It's freakin' GOD, not the damned DMV!! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Quote- You have a houseguest over and he/she dies in their sleep in your nice queen size guest bed. Keep the bed? Sell it? Burn it? Keep it- I used to own a Hearse, so that wouldn't creep me at all. Hearse is different. People don't generally die horrible deaths IN a hearse. I'm thinking mostly about the perception that "something lingers" after a death. Think "The Grudge." -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I have no freakin' idea. I've never watched the show. In fact, I eschew most reality shows. The only one I find remotely entertaining and not a bunch of fabricated crap is "Fear Factor," and I haven't even watched that in months. Frankly, JohnRich, I'm surprised at you. You pop in here to Bonfire so rarely, and when you do it's about frivolous shit?! LOL I expected better of you! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Comprehension is challenged when standardization fails. "...Cannot accept that what they believe to be a 'standard' can and will change'" is a cop-out, and an excuse for failing to keep some things standard when no rational argument or reason for having them change can be made. This is not the same as saying we should not allow new words to enter the language: obviously, there is a need for that. But there is a specific purpose (clarity of expression and understanding) for which we use "you're" as opposed to "your," or "they're" as opposed to "there." When people screw that up, they make the excuse that we who are capable of learning, understanding, and preserving through usage such standards are "just being too rigid." I view it as a case of "the lunatics running the asylum." When we allow those who can't manage something, or are too lazy to manage something, to call the shots and define US as too rigid and THEM as just fine, we are allowing a degradation of (whatever we're discussing as a subect). It's rather like when the dummies in your junior high school class were somehow able to ostracize those who were smarter than they were, and turned being intelligent into a social liability. It was backward. It still is. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

The bigger question is, does the spelling of Pro-Track matter?? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

That sounds GOOOOOD! I wonder if they make, have made, or will make, a BACON flavor. I bet that would be oddly good. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Would you continue to keep something if it were associated with someone's death? Some examples: - You have a car and a motorcyclist blows a red light and broadsides you, and is killed. Keep the car? Sell it? - You have a houseguest over and he/she dies in their sleep in your nice queen size guest bed. Keep the bed? Sell it? Burn it? - You have a gun and someone steals it and uses it to murder someone. Cops find the gun, the bad guy gets the chair, and the gun is returned to you. Keep the gun? Sell it? Have it destroyed? You get the gist. How do you feel about this kind of thing? Blue skies, -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I do think it is possible, but I see problems with it if one attempts to make it work and continue. I think that they pull against each other, like if you clasp your hands and pull in opposite directions. Can you make one of your own arms win that tug of war? I don't think so. Not unless you consciously let one of your arms give up and lose. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I don't get it. Are you saying you can't fly head down? I thought you could! Aren't you like a serious freeflyer? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Do any of you also play disc golf? I've been playing on and off for years, and I love to play, but I am just average. It's a great game, though. Kinda like yoga and skydiving: even if you are not that good, it's still very enjoyable. I was holding one of my discs at home (okay, I have a lot of them) and just feeling the groove of how it sits in my hand, and I really want to get out and play this weekend. But the nearest decent course is like 40 minutes away. I may go, I'm not sure. Do you play? How long have you played? What discs do you like? What brands/models? I used to putt with an Aviar Putter, and sometimes a Birdie, and for a while I was big on the Aviar XD. Now I use an Aero -- in part because of its pedigree as the first mass-produced disc-golf-specific flying disc. It's also a very straight flyer and I like that characteristic. I usually drive with a Wildcat or a TeeBird. My typical drives are between 90 and 110 yards. I'm no "bigarm." Putting is my favorite part of the game, anyway. (Suprise surprise! I'm partial, as you can see, to Innova Champion discs, though I also have some Discraft and Lightning discs that see much less use. (Wait, is the Wildcat a Discraft??) Anyway, where do you play, if you play? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Don't let 'em give you shit, Grue: Jelly Bellies are one of the greatest inventions in the world, and you are right to crave them. I love all the sours. I love blueberry, tutti-fruity, peach, raspberry, chocolate pudding, buttered popcorn, and about two dozen other flavors I can't even think of right now. There is one I really don't care for, and that is pear. I just don't like the taste of pears, or anything pear-flavored. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I really would like to get to sleep reasonably early tonight so I don't do my habitual "sleep through most of Saturday" thing; go out and get some sun and air and play a little disc golf on Saturday; get up to Sebastian on Sunday and do at least four or five skydives.

There is something to be said, though, for the respect for one's readers that is implicit in taking the time to write fluidly, with proper capitalization, spelling, and punctuation. It is arguable that if one can't be bothered to do these things, because "it's just the internet, what does it matter?" that might be indicative of a somewhat stunted or atrophied concern for the comfort and ease of reading experienced by one's audience. I have most definitely encountered message board posts that were so tortuous to read that I simply skipped them, as they were a single sentence not broken up by anything remotely resembling coherent structure, and nothing more than an annoyance to try to wade through. A good way to get one's message ignored is to make it uncomfortable to read it. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Did you find yourself thinking how much that told you about the guys? I can't get around that -- it says a lot about them and their mindset/expectations, that they wrote you off as a "bit of fluff" because you are a woman, until demonstrated otherwise. I myself have a lot of Heinlein to read. I've done Starship Troopers and The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress (the latter was GREAT!) but I love his politics as I have begun to be acquainted with them, and I am eager to know more. I have a copy, by chance, of his correspondence or essays or something that were published by his wife posthumously. I have not begun to read it, though. I suppose it might be a mix of boring and interesting. We'll see (eventually, and if I live that long) -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"