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Great, just what we need, another politically extremist mouthpiece spewing shit. Both sides of the aisle have taken us on The Roller Coaster To Hell - but yes, this fucktard's diatribe is going to make everything better. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

YIKES! That is like saying someone is the best babysitter since Jeffrey Dahmer. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

It would be interesting (if a human life could span the time) to see how long any significant portion of the population holds onto creationism. With the ability to sequence DNA and the resultant ability to map out the tree of life; giving any credence to creationism over evolution is quite simply learned ignorance overriding inate intelligence for the sake of how people feel. Emotions (the cerebral type, not the limbic type) are a lousy tool for evaluating the world. The ability to sequence DNA confirms evolution with no room for doubt. It is like putting something together, having it work properly, then finding the directions later and discovering your assembly was on the money. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

What if the intent is to learn how Ridiculous some beliefs are when ancient mythical stories are taken so literally? There are a lot of Ridiculous beliefs out there. (Virgin births, zombies, flying reindeer, walking on water, etc.) Understanding them as stories told to convey a message is one thing; believing them to be literally true is Ridiculous. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I disagree. There was a vague accusation in there that we have some evil which needs to be replaced by scripture. And it is quite laughable that we need to not conform to the world, but instead need to conform to their religion. Posts like the OP are basically ancient writings tossed out as dogmatic fundie diatribe. I do agree that if it works for someone, and they cause no harm to others, good on them. But assuming it is for everyone, or that everyone needs it, or pushing it like a door-to-door salesman is about as hypocritical as it gets. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

It is a state action (as in a government decree), but not the action of a State (as in the state of Illinois). It is awkward to refer to an action by a city council as a state action; but not technically incorrect unless the S is capitalized. My nerd/geek contribution for the day. Similar standards apply to nation/Nation. One is cultural, one is a sovereign entity. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

"Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine." "My sins they only belong to me." - Patti Smith " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I get about 1.6 million adding up those salaries. Arithmetic - not everybody's friend. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

It is almost laughable that what was passed is called reform. All they've done is expand a system proven to have major flaws - and somehow managed to address not a single major flaw in the process. Most everything they passed is already law in the more progressive states. About all they did was expand those measures to states without them (not a bad thing), and expand insurance by mandate to those that could not previously afford it. To pay the tab they'll increase costs for everyone else and call it a day without addressing total costs in any significant way. It really just boils down to your standard Democrat redistribution of wealth tactic. Nothing innovative, no solution to total cost - just take money from one group and give it to the other. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Outcomes would be things like infant mortality, maternal mortality, and life expectancy. US sucks in those areas too. Outcomes is much broader than the things you mention. Outcome studies measure patient condition pre-treatment against various treatment regimens from different providers. Analysis includes place of service, type of service, patient demographic mix, procedures, provider, and at least 200 other factors. It is much more than just the simple measures you listed. Infant mortality is a good example. Not only does the measurement criteria differ from country to country; but the stats can be very misleading. One side of the discussion might say mortality is 4 times worse for A than B. The other side might point out that both A and B are so amazingly low that common cause variation actually presents more of a range than special cause variation. And yes, you can manipulate any study to make pretty much any place or person look bad by cherry picking the observations. Line up the right participants in the right categories and you can make any particular participant look truly evil. Anybody who thinks health care in the USA actually sucks, that it is horrible, that you would be better off traveling elsewhere, etc . . . has got their head stuck in the sand of some other agenda. The fundamental problem with health care in the USA is that it is ridiculously fucking expensive - not that it is bad care. It is for the most part a financing problem, not a quality of care problem. But those with some other ax to grind try to make it something else. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Agreed; many jobs do not require a college degree, but even for those jobs employers often give an edge to people that have demonstrated good abilities to observe objectively, assimilate knowledge, analyze info, draw conclusions, and execute. Those things are usually aquired by college graduates, even those with liberal arts degrees. Yeah, there are skaters and cheaters; as there are everywhere. It's no reason to dis education in general. And that topic usually attracts the we-don't-need-no-stinking-degree crowd, the crowd that is proud to propogate ignorance by passing it on to their offspring, and the crowd that likes to debate the measures of intelligence without any positive contribution. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Not a serious study at all. Outcome studies are the most meaningful measurement of a care system. Nothing else even comes close. How people "feel" is easy to manipulate and quite simply is irrelevant. Quality and cost are related, but to examine each requires distinctly different treatment. Compare salaries of docs among these countries and there is the bulk of the cost answer right there. How bised do you think they were to spew forth shit on cost of care without bothering to examine where the money goes? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

This administration is one really bad joke after another. Did you catch the job title? Anybody with a title that long is at best window dressing, at worst smoke and mirrors. Wonder what his salary is? Whatever it is, it is way too much for the work that is not going to get done. Can you believe a position like this exists within our federal government, a job to "coordinate" (read thwart) non-federal level attempts to stem the tide of illegal aliens? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Nice attempt at a sideways swipe. It's not a great thing for anybody; but it is accurate in that the economy isn't going to rebound just because people wish it to be so. And it certainly isn't helping any to roll out or expand programs that are ridiculously expensive already. The economy isn't going to improve solely on the smoke & mirrors BS spewed out or implemented by SuperBama - regardless of whether a person thinks he is doing right or wrong. Feelings are worthless in the discussion; it's results that count. Economies do not run on hope and desire and bullshit cheerleader speeches about CHANGE (which has turned out to be a complete lie since he has demonstrated his ability to engage in bully partisan politics as well as anybody on the hill). They run on commerce. Our current leader wants to replace commerce with highly centralized control mechanisms; ignoring the fact of history that they quite simply do not work well and have never worked at all in an economy that approaches our scale. You are a smart person. Open your eyes and put your biases aside. The economy is getting worse, not better. What specifically do you think this administration is doing to improve the economy. My observation is that damn near everything they do is actually hindering recovery. Raise taxes, expand programs, increase benefits, open the borders to cheap labor, more regulation, . . . This Prez is more like one of those TV preachers than a leader. What a fucking joke. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I am curious about a number of things though now . . . are you some high-powered executive at a company that gets some sort of extra-special health care coverage, like weekly in-home "chiropractic and therapeutic massage services" average workers don't get? The entire bill seems to be set up for "excess benefit" coverage and I'm wonder just who it is that gets that? I'm thinking the same thing. Maybe a married couple, both smokers, with 3 covered kids, in the 60 to 65 age bracket, and 100% coverage for everything from massages and over the counter drugs to hookers and lear jets. Be interesting to poke around on some commercial sites and see if you can even buy a plan that expensive. Must be aiming at sub-groups of executives that have ridiculously generous plans not available to the general public. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Kind of like a cancor sore is part of a cancer patient's story? OK, that was maybe a bit extreme. But to grandstand and kiss ass like that as if Muslim heritage has meant squat in the USA until very recently is just pure political grandstanding BS. What is wrong with our population that we keep electing one superficial assinine conceited self-centered non-principled leader after another? I think the Obushma era is going to go down as a true low point in history. Maybe on the rebound we start electing honest, straightforward, intelligent, principled leaders instead of manipulative two-faced mannequins. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Ever notice that the head of most regulatory bodies are basically a rotating job passed around to executives of the industry being regulated? Is this the first time someone has noticed that legislators almost always come down firmly supoporting their biggest campaign contributors? Do people here understand what "pork" means in politics? It's quite laughable watching the two sides here defend their chosen party and deride the other. They all engage in the same BS behavior. They are all scum. They are all whores to whoever can get them elected, and you are all whores for selling out to the party you perceive to be in support of your "causes." Obama looked to have promise as a principled leader - and has totally crapped out. He has engaged in the same game as the rest - just a different flavor of the same 2 shit sandwiches we choose between every 4 years. Can I be a moderator now? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

When are we going to get serious about our border there? Wouldn't it make sense to have kind of an open no-go zone near the fence? Instead they actually let people stack stuff up against it. What a joke. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

You are correct; definitely a heavy liberal slant, despite any outliers (if you could call them that). I think it is the "do-gooder" attribute in their character. Wonder how different the tones would be if the flip side were equally represented and equally vocal? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

WOW! Who knew Bill was going to tell them that? (Show of hands please). " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I'm with you on that. I still can't figure out why it can't be that simple. If a person is not a citizen they should have absolutely zero benefits, and extremely limited rights (such as the right to a quick, painless deportation). Seems like the solution is easy. Make illegal entry as difficult as possible and make deportation immediate, cheap, painless - with no exceptions granted. I'm sure some politicians will tell us that "It's complicatd." " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

You got that right. This place (even SC) is like a family picnic compared to many discussion forums I see at the end of news releases. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Ever see the one in which the guy demonstrates our economic idiocy using a stack of Oreos? Good stuff, but I don't seem to have saved it. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

They must be overstaffed; or wrongstaffed. I've noticed that all the school crossing signs have only black people crossing the road in front of traffic. They had better get somebody on that right away. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

This is quite literally right next to one of our favorite 270ft free standers that gets jumped all the time. I am still trying to figure out how this 61ft statue got struck instead of our tower....or 1 of the two HUGE flag poles nearby, or the high voltage power towers right behind the church... Another small peice of irony is there is actually a restaurant called the Golden Lamb just a few miles away That's all I feel like saying about that, arguments on here about whether God exists or not are slightly less intelligent than a couple preschoolers arguing over who ate the play-dough. Not even close. You could examine the pre-schoolers poop and easily discern the truth. BTW, I only ate the blue-doh. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley