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so you agree that making up qualifications is silly. (like my made-up 1 house full of 8 voting gun owners) -- Rob

I don't think I understood your point here. my point was that there exist Europeans that wish they had better access to firearms in Europe. -- Rob

"Have in their home" is ambiguous criteria. For example, a 4br home rented by four couples may as well be reported as "having guns in our home", even though there maybe only one guy having guns, and seven others may be actually anti-gun. Someone owning multiple homes may say that he has guns in five his homes (so the statistics would have to add five), even though it is a single person. well, we can make up any qualifications we want to on statistics that don't agree with our stance. This is why I dont typically quote stats. I don't like them. I could say that it's possible that everyone queried in the poll was one of 8 people living in a house and there were actually guns owned by all 8 even though it was only one person, so really 38% is low. But I'm not proposing that because making up qualifications of statistics is asinine and really just means you want to discard it for whatever reason (usually when I see it that's because "I don't agree with it" or "I didn't find it and don't trust it"). I don't know what your reasons are. -- Rob

I've spoken at some length with a former co-worker from spain. She is an avid shooter here, and really likes handguns. Having taken a few courses in tactical handgun use, she has expressed to me that she wishes she could carry a handgun in spain. I don't know anything about the gun laws there, but she's said it's a pain in the ass to get a gun. And don't even think about being able to legally carry one. A club or a knife might be an option for me (6'tall 200lb man) but she doesn't feel it would be a viable option for her (5'4" 145lb woman). it's a single data point, and I recognize that, but it's still illustrative of my point. -- Rob

http://reason.com/archives/2001/05/01/gun-ownership-the-numbers reports 39% of Americans report a gun in their home.(may 2001) http://www.gallup.com/poll/14509/americans-guns-danger-defense.aspx reports 38% in Oct 2004 (note that the 2001 numbers agree with the reason.com numbers) wouldn't your argument be better served by asking what percentage of citizens favored private gun ownership? http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/08/gun.control.poll/index.html according to that story (april 09) only 39% of Americans favor stricter gun control laws. So repealing the second, would displease 61% of those polled in that article. Considering what it takes to repeal an amendment, I don't think that's in danger of happening. (regardless of your opinion of whether or not it would make us safer) -- Rob

so it doesn't bother you that the administration wanted to exclude a major news network from interviewing it's appointees? http://www.google.com/search?q=white+house+fox+news+exclude As transparent as we want this government to be, I'd think that all questions, even the hard ones, should be asked. -- Rob

so the actual answer is no. we don't know the actual delta. -- Rob

so the top of it was 1360 before it fell. how high was it after it fell? (when the clock stopped on that 10 sec) Zero? I doubt it. So do we know the actual delta in altitude? -- Rob

you go on an on about racism, yet I didn't see any explicit racism or mention of it until you brought it up. is the race card the only one you have to play? -- Rob

nonsense, I'm sure those 1000 have a "consensus" oh... so it's like global warming. if you get enough scientists to jump on the bandwagon, then it must be true. -- Rob

I expected explaination. And I appreciate it. I don't agree. I doubt you expected me to. But here, we are not criminals and as such are allowed to keep and bear arms. I don't live in europe for a lot of reasons. I've visited, not extensively, and liked my visits. I'll likely go back. But I also like being able to have options when choosing personal defense. -- Rob

wow. I've seen some screwball lines wrt global warming climate change. But wow!! -- Rob

just to ask, because I think I understand what you want, but can't believe it. You want gun bans so that some gun crime will be reduced. Is that what you're saying? You want a ban, so that there will be SOME less gun crime. A simple yes or no will do. I'm not introducing other factors into this reply. I just want to be clear on your stance. And I'd like a straight yes or no answer. -- Rob

that's because each side cherry-picks stats to show their point. and the anti-gunners refuse to understand that outlawing guns will not eliminate them, but simply take them out of the hands of the lawful gun owners. This doesn't directly affect the anti-gunners, because they don't own guns (for varying reasons). For this reason (or others) they're ok with disarming the law abiding public. -- Rob

does anyone, even the hard core gun banners, think this is right?? -- Rob

Probably the truest thing every said about econ. If you're right, you get invited to all the cool parties. yeah... I wasn't listening that closely, but I did hear him say something about "we just try to make better guesses than the next guy". -- Rob

don't bother debating with this one folks. It's clear from the comments they want the breed exterminated. Regardless of the owner's actions, it's clearly the breeds fault. -- Rob

yes. Any dog can misbehave. Especially if it's not been trained and properly socialized by it's owners. I don't leave my 3 and 6 year old alone with my English bulldog (a breed that's known to be mellow and good with kids) because he's a dog, and kids can be kids, and as much work as I've done with my bulldog, he might react badly. -- Rob

I once heard an econ prof explain macro econ to someone (over a pitcher of beer). It started out with, "pretty much nobody knows what it's going to do. It's all fucking magic." -- Rob

guilty. I don't bother to read much beyond 2 or 3 lines of your posts. Either ADD is in high gear, or you're just not interesting enough lately. -- Rob

Tesla just couldn't figure out how to make any money on it. -- Rob

wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High. Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear. the "think about it" argument. Basically asking someone to figure out what argument you're trying to make. Hoping they come up with one better than what you scraped together. -- Rob

from what I can tell you don't design your comments to appeal to anything. Love all the examples..... usual/usual. like anyone here could change your mind on this topic? It was bait. Thanks for biting. Had hoped it might have been more enthusiastic, but I didn't want to get too aggressive with my baiting. Didn't want you to whine "PA!!". Bait? I'm asking for examples of your lame assertion. I guess there will be none. wow... lighten up. -- Rob

my prediction is that a bunch of people will spout off about what will happen this next 2 years wrt the economy. A bunch of them will be wrong. Some will be right. Some will have followed their own advice and lost tons of money. some will make tons of money. Beyond that, I cannot predict what is going to happen. -- Rob

from what I can tell you don't design your comments to appeal to anything. Love all the examples..... usual/usual. like anyone here could change your mind on this topic? It was bait. Thanks for biting. Had hoped it might have been more enthusiastic, but I didn't want to get too aggressive with my baiting. Didn't want you to whine "PA!!". -- Rob