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I'll split it with you.... I mean. I'll help. -- Rob

reasonable suspicion is a soft definition. If you came upon a person speaking a foreign language who has no form of identification, would you not wonder if they were a US citizen or a citizen of another country? -- Rob

Obama To Wall Street: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money" what does he say after that? clipping it there makes me wonder what's next. -- Rob

I'd pay the minimum $2M. There are plenty of non-profit organizations I work with that I would be donating money to each year after that. I'd rather determine where my money goes. -- Rob

I'd say the primary one is lack of basic english skills. Any legal immigrant here having english issues likely hasn't been here long and is probably already carrying their immigration paperwork. There are other indicators (lack of drivers license, insurance or current vehicle registration and others) that each by themselves don't mean much, but combined with each other and a lack of english skills could create reasonable suspicion. Simply "acting suspiciously" can be enough for an officer to stop you and ask you for ID and inquire into what you are doing. -- Rob

I'd bet they'll round them all up and call ICE for a handoff. -- Rob

officers have been stopping people under reasonable suspicion for years. There is case law in your state defining what that means. This is a power play meant to put egg on the face of immigration, or make them do their jobs. -- Rob

since the supreme court said that officers are not required to come to your aid, I think the serve and protect schtick should be taken off their cars. (it's off around here) -- Rob

when was the last time you had a positive interaction with a police officer?? Most interactions the public has with officers are negative experiences. It's the nature of their job. As such, we associate negativity with them. I know some really nice, very considerate cops. I also know some asshole cops. Substitute the word "skydivers" for "cops" and that is also true. I don't know about proportions, but it wouldn't surprise me to find that power-seekers (assholes) are more likely to become cops. I'd also buy the idea that officer's negative interactions over years of work turn them into assholes. -- Rob

didn't fly much 30-ish years ago did you? yeah... that's just the way it was. -- Rob

var·y   [vair-ee] Show IPA verb,var·ied, var·y·ing. –verb (used with object) 1. to change or alter, as in form, appearance, character, or substance: to vary one's methods. 2. to cause to be different from something else: The orchestra varied last night's program with one new selection. 3. to avoid or relieve from uniformity or monotony; diversify: to vary one's diet. Main Entry: swing Part of Speech: verb Definition: move back and forth; be suspended Synonyms: avert, away, be pendent, curve, dangle, deflect, divert, flap, fluctuate, hang, lurch, oscillate, palpitate, pendulate, pitch, pivot, reel, revolve, rock, roll, rotate, sheer, shunt, suspend, sway, swerve, swivel, turn, turn about, turn on an axis, twirl, undulate, vary, veer, vibrate, volte-face, wag, waggle, wave, wheel, whirl, wiggle, wobble un·du·late   [v. uhn-juh-leyt, uhn-dyuh-, -duh-; adj. uhn-juh-lit, -leyt, uhn-dyuh-, -duh-] Show IPA verb,-lat·ed, -lat·ing, adjective –verb (used without object) 1. to move with a sinuous or wavelike motion; display a smooth rising-and-falling or side-to-side alternation of movement: The flag undulates in the breeze. 2. to have a wavy form or surface; bend with successive curves in alternate directions. I said "I do not however, see anything alluding to the amplitude of that change." again, I see nothing alluding to amplitude of change. nor has your repeating those terms again constituted a persuasive argument as to the definitions of those terms. hmmm... increment let's see if I can find in implication of amplitude in here..... nope! in·cre·ment   [in-kruh-muhnt, ing-] Show IPA –noun 1. something added or gained; addition; increase. 2. profit; gain. 3. the act or process of increasing; growth. 4. an amount by which something increases or grows: a weekly increment of $25 in salary. 5. one of a series of regular additions: You may make deposits in increments of $500. 6. Mathematics. a. the difference between two values of a variable; a change, positive, negative, or zero, in an independent variable. b. the increase of a function due to an increase in the independent variable. All I did was ask you to point out where amplitude was implied by those terms. You did not, but instead chose to offer other terms that you asserted to imply a small change. *** As for sarcasm, no, like you, Belgian is a hardcore righty and absolutley loves if there are any failures of the Obama era. So sorry, maybe another 911 can happen so you will be pleased. A failure of the Obama presidency would be a failure of part of my country. I do no wish for that. I've said many times, I hope he will do all the good things he promised, and none of the bad things some fear he would do (e.g.: enact legislation forcing Americans to buy something with their own money or pay a tax if they don't). so you can keep on assuming you know what I believe. I won't stop you. Not like I could. You don't tend to listen to reasonable discussion. Likely because you just enjoy internet arguments. -- Rob

nothing to see here... move along. -- Rob

Lots of the illegals are Polish, Irish, Croatian, English, Scottish, Latvian, Ukranian etc, who, being Caucasian, are never stopped anyway. Likely what's going on now is re-training (likely a 15min briefing or some shit like that) in AZ PD's over what is "reasonable suspicion". This law will open them up to lawsuits every time they stop someone who is an American citizen. I'm sure at some level, they know this. -- Rob

please point out to me where in those definitions it alludes to amplitude of change. I see many words describing modalities of change, "waver", "vary", "rise and fall" I do not however, see anything alluding to the amplitude of that change. Just admit you failed to see the sarcasm and let it go. -- Rob

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/126685/she_or_he_test/ -- Rob

I've seen it fall both ways. I work in tech. Men tend to get paid more in the same job. In my experience it's because they change jobs more often. You get a bigger raise when you switch jobs than when you stay put. I've also seen a woman do a better job than the guy on her team and she didn't get any credit because she didn't stand up for herself and say so. When I and another employee said publicly, "hey... you didn't do that, she did." Then she came to her own defense. I've heard management say "I think it's because she's a woman". Sometimes they say it in a good way. ("She thinks differently and solves problems differently. I like that. I think it's because she's a woman".) Sometimes a bad way. Sexism is out there. But there's a whole lot of crying wolf also. -- Rob

didn't you just recently post "i don't think it's sexist to admit that there are differences between the sexes" troll -- Rob

oh he's just trolling stirring shit. that's all. -- Rob

though the observed effect of the described outcome appears to be racism, it's really geographical in nature. So then ask how to police determine where to focus? Maybe they all sit in the mayor's office and say "let's go arrest us some black-folk!" Is that what you think?? NO!! they focus on the high crime areas. Why do those areas (with disproportionately more non-whites) experience more crime? I don't know. There are studies that show that people that grow up with violence and crime tend to repeat those behaviors. That might be one factor. -- Rob

I'm not sure. -- Rob

I don't know what they're doing, but it isn't effective. I've tried to get someone deported. Someone I know has an uncle here illegally who was being abusive to family. He ended up in county jail on DWI charges, and phone calls and a written complaint couldn't get ICE involved. He ended up in state pen, and on his release day, ICE couldn't be bothered to show up, so he's still here. So, while they are doing SOMETHING, and they're doing it SOMEWHERE, it's not effective from a feet on the ground perspective. -- Rob

there's a great co-ed program called Venture Scouts that the BSA runs. I wish they would extend the co-ed option down into scouting as well. (I say option, because there exist mail only venture crews at the option of the chartering organization. Though it's rare.) http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Venturing/About/venturing.aspx -- Rob

if you're contending that the initial complaint (rate of lockups vs administrative punishment) is indirectly due to racism, through the socio-economic reasons outlined here, then I have much less of a problem with that argument. The man is keeping them down, by keeping the prior generation down. yeah... that's it... -- Rob

I think it's not so much fuel cost to escape the gravity well of the earth, but more the engineering problems of building something here that can survive the launch from the gravity well, and make the trip while being light enough to be fuel efficient yet strong enough to be safe. Orbit is likely a better place to do this. But I'm not that well informed on this topic. That's just opinion and a guess based off of a lot of sci-fi and a few years of engineering school. -- Rob

But the least fiscally responsible party spends more and taxes less. Just because Repubs tax less doesn't mean they spend less, they are just stupid with the credit card. firstly, please don't re-re-post the same tired old spending graph. Secondly, I think almost all currently seated politicians need a budget lesson. -- Rob