JoeWeber

Because it means Fallen from Grace. I am not.

I was responding to the original poster, who I presumed was a Christian based on opening the post with a biblical focus. I understand plenty why others choose not to believe. I was once there myself. Altrus, I have no problem with anyones beliefs providing they don't impose on mine. In this instance I ask only that you recognize that, as benign a definition as you might apply, calling me fallen is, to me, far worse an insult than calling me an asshole. Mainly because one is an honorific and the other one earned. Joe

Did you really need to go fallen world love Jesus on us? Believe it if you want, Max, but please at least try to understand why others do not.

Ken Brother, Bill's message is intact. It's not about outliers. Those are things to look for in the most nascent stages. Bill is not just making a point. He's spot on, the set mood encourages behavior. Our President seems cool with the consequences of his words. Unbelievably, so are too many others. Joe So then, I guess he is an effective leader after all. He has followers going in the direction he points and taking their cues well. Yes, sadly, that is the way things are now. If the Democrats screw the pooch again, as is their nature, and there is no November 6 blue wave then the world will be changed for generations. Right wing authoritarianism is ascendent worldwide. In the big scheme of things, the United States is just another brick in the wall.

Ken Brother, Bill's message is intact. It's not about outliers. Those are things to look for in the most nascent stages. Bill is not just making a point. He's spot on, the set mood encourages behavior. Our President seems cool with the consequences of his words. Unbelievably, so are too many others. Joe

Keith, Thanks for the link. By sheer coincidence I was looking at this just before checking out SC. The tags price in CHF; Swiss francs. Are you suggesting that a nations gun laws should reflect it's culture? If so, at which point in time? In our case, do we pick 1776, 1865 or 2018? That's what makes it all so thorny. I'm a gun person, that's no secret. To be sure, I'm a bit of an oddity amongst we pinkos in that way. I just believe that gun ownership and more gun laws in America need not be mutually exclusive things. Like Ken, I'd agree with Swiss laws above our own. Things will change and we need to start somewhere. Joe

BIGUN, Then how is it that open societies that have more gun laws than we do also have fewer gun crimes? Joe

you refer to? You and the other church going gunslingers you hang with? I assume you have receipts or other evidence of payments by Soros to thrill seekers so why not offer it up? And why not stop referring to anarchy and social uprising as SHTF? You aren't talking about going Number Two in front of polite society. You are talking about the rending of the fabric of our society. Please leave the cutesy acronym at your survivalist meetings. Yeah, it's us gunslingers. Yeah, that's the ticket. I viewed a video showing the disbursement of funds to the caravan. Common sense psychology explains much. SHTF is a phrase that has been around for years. I did not make it up. If you believe that everything is hunky dory and that chaos and violence are only in my imagination then my stated observations should not affect you as they do. The bottom line is that you and most everyone else fears that the storm is approaching. There is an unsettledness that cannot be explained or blamed away. You feel and I feel it. The difference is that I see it as Biblical prophecy manifesting and I have spiritual understanding and protection. Forgive Accept Confess Experience It is the will of God on earth. "Yeah, it's us gunslingers. Yeah, that's the ticket. " That is a childish deflection. "I viewed a video showing the disbursement of funds to the caravan. Common sense psychology explains much. " That is complete, unsubstantiated bullshit. Of course you didn't make up SHTF. Once again, that's someone else's original thought. My point is that you just love it. It bounces around in your head like a silly candy bar jingle except, unlike most folks, you don't want it to go away. These things resonate with you. They stay with you and take on an almost tactile realness as the evidence you see mounts. In other words, more Ronsense. Prove it's not by linking the video. What is it? George Soros in black face, riding in a sedan chair, and passing out bundles of US dollars? Or, is it some dude who reportedly has the initials GS which, common sense will tell you, informs all you need to know? The only common sense psychology that begs explanation, counselor, is the human tendency to read into things that which validates pre-conceived notions. I submit that you do not and can not, by virtue of how you live and filter your information, know jack all. Every last bit of the drivel you spout is spoon fed to you by your own freely chosen masters. You need to pause your Rip Van Winkle act for a while, get out of the backwoods and just look and listen. Yes, the country has serious social problems and our government is, most definitely, turning into a first class shit show. But there isn't a boogie-man, monsters are not under the bed, Armageddon is not around the corner and the only SHTF's are happening in school rooms, synagogues and public squares where innocents gather and become prey to lone, deluded, brainwashed madmen.

The lies are getting old for everyone and that's the problem. Our ennui will propel the right to victory again. The left are not drones. Our base isn't motivated by demagoguery. We live as free thinkers. That is our Achilles heel. The right employ the Napoleonic tactic of l'ordre mixte; the combination of strong frontal assault with encircling elements creating confusion. It may not have worked at Waterloo but it is definitely working now. We pussified Libtards, on the other hand, argue with each other over who had the most clever repartee or we waste electrons demonstrating to our foes how well researched we are. Of course, our interlocutors are not impressed. They don't give a shit because for them it's all about now. We say "go tell the Spartans". They say, 'go tell the Red Sox". That is why we are fucked.

Sorry. It's only an Exodus if it's a mob of Scandinavian appearing Middle Easterner's running away or towards Roman or Egyptian oppression. Otherwise you are under Hispanic attack by angry mobs who want to roof your house in the summer, clean your toilets and pick your cantaloupes. Read that twice! Every one of those thrill seekers is determined to take 3 American jobs! SAD!

Ron, Imagine that you are President of the United States of America. Please, and seriously, detail how you would deal with the Immigrant Caravan as the situation exists at this moment in time. Look ahead to the many possibilities as the Caravan approaches and, eventually, arrives at the US border. What would you do now and then. What actions are you prepared to take? To avoid timeline confusion please stick to now and moving ahead as if you were a Vice President who was suddenly thrust into power. Afterward, if you like, please tell me what you would have done to avoid a problem like this were you elected President in the last election. Again, to avoid confusion, please start there and move forward. No Obama this, no Hillary that, just President Ron who was elected to fix problems not complain about problems. In 1977 I decided I would never be POTUS. In 1983 I began my path of recovery. I do not try to solve problems beyond my position or ability. Looks to me as though President Trump is on the right course at this juncture. I am amused by your belief that you are qualified to evaluate my hypothetical decisions. Amused? Were you to say, "if that damn dog comes onto the carpet again I'm gonna kick him in the slats.", I might have an opinion on the hypothetical. If he's your dog, I might just think it's your decision and not my problem. Also, if I didn't like your goddamn dog and thought a good kick in the slats would do him good I might just evaluate your hypothetical in a positive light. But even so, if the dog was hurt and needed help but he didn't speak even dog english and it was clear to me that you were clueless or if the poor bastard was being threatened by a bigger dog and you couldn't see it (sort of like the topic at hand) I might feel qualified to evaluate your hypothetical decisions. But that's the sort of world in which folks who don't live by immutable revealed truths live. They risk saying what they believe and don't dance around avoiding queries on a topic they brought forward by saying lame shit like as a way to avoid answering, again. Again, you want me to play your game with your rules, I refuse. The current caravan of unfortunates, MS13 gang members and thrill seekers are trying to do something against our laws. See BIGUN'S explanation above. The U.S. owes them nothing. They are the problem of their country of origin or Mexico at this point. MS13 gang members and thrill seekers? That's just more of your famous ronsense. What kind of thrill seekers? High Wire performers? Speed Skaters? Also, I'm pretty sure those hordes of MS13 Gang members who've taken up long distance hiking are very pro-gun so you might want to shoot them last. It's easy to have a position on anything as long as you aren't obligated to defend it and, apparently, you are not. You refer me to BIGUN's explanation. Thank you. Maybe you should give that a go and see if anyone is referred to your explanations. I do not want open borders. I do not want caravans of migrants entering our nation at will. Your problem is that you believe shit that is completely out of whack with reality. So what do we do, send the Army and machine gun them as they cross? How about before they cross? I posted a DOD press release. I do not nor am I qualified to defend it. We know that MS13 will and has infiltrated the caravan. Thrill seekers are simply those young people with nothing better to do but take Soros' money and join the parade just to see what happens. Who's this you refer to? You and the other church going gunslingers you hang with? I assume you have receipts or other evidence of payments by Soros to thrill seekers so why not offer it up? And why not stop referring to anarchy and social uprising as SHTF? You aren't talking about going Number Two in front of polite society. You are talking about the rending of the fabric of our society. Please leave the cutesy acronym at your survivalist meetings.

Ron, Imagine that you are President of the United States of America. Please, and seriously, detail how you would deal with the Immigrant Caravan as the situation exists at this moment in time. Look ahead to the many possibilities as the Caravan approaches and, eventually, arrives at the US border. What would you do now and then. What actions are you prepared to take? To avoid timeline confusion please stick to now and moving ahead as if you were a Vice President who was suddenly thrust into power. Afterward, if you like, please tell me what you would have done to avoid a problem like this were you elected President in the last election. Again, to avoid confusion, please start there and move forward. No Obama this, no Hillary that, just President Ron who was elected to fix problems not complain about problems. In 1977 I decided I would never be POTUS. In 1983 I began my path of recovery. I do not try to solve problems beyond my position or ability. Looks to me as though President Trump is on the right course at this juncture. I am amused by your belief that you are qualified to evaluate my hypothetical decisions. Amused? Were you to say, "if that damn dog comes onto the carpet again I'm gonna kick him in the slats.", I might have an opinion on the hypothetical. If he's your dog, I might just think it's your decision and not my problem. Also, if I didn't like your goddamn dog and thought a good kick in the slats would do him good I might just evaluate your hypothetical in a positive light. But even so, if the dog was hurt and needed help but he didn't speak even dog english and it was clear to me that you were clueless or if the poor bastard was being threatened by a bigger dog and you couldn't see it (sort of like the topic at hand) I might feel qualified to evaluate your hypothetical decisions. But that's the sort of world in which folks who don't live by immutable revealed truths live. They risk saying what they believe and don't dance around avoiding queries on a topic they brought forward by saying lame shit like as a way to avoid answering, again. Again, you want me to play your game with your rules, I refuse. The current caravan of unfortunates, MS13 gang members and thrill seekers are trying to do something against our laws. See BIGUN'S explanation above. The U.S. owes them nothing. They are the problem of their country of origin or Mexico at this point. MS13 gang members and thrill seekers? That's just more of your famous ronsense. What kind of thrill seekers? High Wire performers? Speed Skaters? Also, I'm pretty sure those hordes of MS13 Gang members who've taken up long distance hiking are very pro-gun so you might want to shoot them last. It's easy to have a position on anything as long as you aren't obligated to defend it and, apparently, you are not. You refer me to BIGUN's explanation. Thank you. Maybe you should give that a go and see if anyone is referred to your explanations. I do not want open borders. I do not want caravans of migrants entering our nation at will. Your problem is that you believe shit that is completely out of whack with reality. So what do we do, send the Army and machine gun them as they cross? How about before they cross?

Ron, Imagine that you are President of the United States of America. Please, and seriously, detail how you would deal with the Immigrant Caravan as the situation exists at this moment in time. Look ahead to the many possibilities as the Caravan approaches and, eventually, arrives at the US border. What would you do now and then. What actions are you prepared to take? To avoid timeline confusion please stick to now and moving ahead as if you were a Vice President who was suddenly thrust into power. Afterward, if you like, please tell me what you would have done to avoid a problem like this were you elected President in the last election. Again, to avoid confusion, please start there and move forward. No Obama this, no Hillary that, just President Ron who was elected to fix problems not complain about problems. In 1977 I decided I would never be POTUS. In 1983 I began my path of recovery. I do not try to solve problems beyond my position or ability. Looks to me as though President Trump is on the right course at this juncture. I am amused by your belief that you are qualified to evaluate my hypothetical decisions. Amused? Were you to say, "if that damn dog comes onto the carpet again I'm gonna kick him in the slats.", I might have an opinion on the hypothetical. If he's your dog, I might just think it's your decision and not my problem. Also, if I didn't like your goddamn dog and thought a good kick in the slats would do him good I might just evaluate your hypothetical in a positive light. But even so, if the dog was hurt and needed help but he didn't speak even dog english and it was clear to me that you were clueless or if the poor bastard was being threatened by a bigger dog and you couldn't see it (sort of like the topic at hand) I might feel qualified to evaluate your hypothetical decisions. But that's the sort of world in which folks who don't live by immutable revealed truths live. They risk saying what they believe and don't dance around avoiding queries on a topic they brought forward by saying lame shit like as a way to avoid answering, again.

Ron, Imagine that you are President of the United States of America. Please, and seriously, detail how you would deal with the Immigrant Caravan as the situation exists at this moment in time. Look ahead to the many possibilities as the Caravan approaches and, eventually, arrives at the US border. What would you do now and then. What actions are you prepared to take? To avoid timeline confusion please stick to now and moving ahead as if you were a Vice President who was suddenly thrust into power. Afterward, if you like, please tell me what you would have done to avoid a problem like this were you elected President in the last election. Again, to avoid confusion, please start there and move forward. No Obama this, no Hillary that, just President Ron who was elected to fix problems not complain about problems.

I don't think he'd seek you out for elimination. I do think he would do it if, as he saw it, the cause required it. Look at his avatar. Take what he writes at face value. He fantasizes himself a Holy Warrior. You are most definitely the enemy, as I am. Make no mistake, he liked hearing about the bombs. It's one step closer to SHTF from his perspective. His only concern would have been the effect on the mid-terms. Innocents getting killed or maimed, not so much, because in his mind none of the targets were innocents.

You think that because you believe it is more important to answer a question correctly, according to your needs, than to answer a question directly or honestly according to the rules of engaged conversation. In fact, nothing in your answer included what Jesus would say about what Trump say's at his rallies. Further, you seem to follow the supposed Muslim idea of taqiyya. Which, according to some, gives a believer license to lie in defense of the Faith.

He would say I am the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except by me. In this world, you will suffer tribulation and strife. The world will hate you as they hate me. But, be of good cheer for I have overcome the world. The question was Your answer stated what you think Jesus would say about himself. In other words, you believe Jesus would not answer the question but instead deflect and respond in the same childish, narcissistic way that Trump does. And then to further perfect the parallel he would tell the audience to not over exercise their reasoning faculties. Instead, relax and ignore the naysayers because I have this thing under control. That's also how you answer, Ron. If you don't like the question you are off to the races again with bible quotes, finger pointing or whatever flows to the ends of your finger tips. That, or you disengage and wander off to a different thread to say whatever until that is called out effectively and then wash, rinse, repeat, again. You are all able to follow a script, I'll give you that.

Thanks Marc, but I think I'm in line with the definition: Paraphrase: express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity. These were the words he spoke: You come back with your usual "but Obama" bullshit. But Obama never incited civil discord. He never incited violence. He never engaged in ad hominem attacks or degraded anyone. He never used petty insults or twitter names like "Lyin' Ted" or "Pocahontas" to dehumanize his enemies. In fact he never pretended, for short term political advantage as Trump does, that he had enemies that are also your enemies. You may not have liked the color of his skin or his political philosophy and that's fine. But he did act Presidential. Trump does not act Presidential. Name calling is juvenile, not Presidential, behavior. Encouraging violence is definitely not Presidential. I get it that his puerile red meat and dog whistle style appeals to many with you at the front of the line. Fine. But it is not Presidential behavior. Trump behaves in a manner that is beneath the dignity of the office. Sadly, there are millions like you who adore him, who and what he is, and are oblivious to the real harm he is doing to American democracy.

A average citizen from middle America strikes leading Democratic Party members in a series of letter bomb attacks. Terrorism or Patriotism? Paranoia by an American hero or a desperate action to preserve the US way of life? Are the whispers of a secret government pulling these strings more than just rumors? Lines are drawn as politics become warfare in the latest bestseller by this author. Sounds like a shitty airport novel doesn’t it? How the fuck did we get here? Our President is an ass. He is unfit to be President. In other words, good on you bombers, now we have their attention. I have nothing but seething contempt for those who believe this is Presidential. So you profess the hate you have such contempt for? That's a conundrum you're going to have to work yourself through. in the meantime it's nice to know that you do not have any tolerance for anybody with whom you do not agree. And I'll take your hate for me as a flag of Honor! Your unerring ability to err strikes again. Read it again or, better yet, have someone with better comprehension skills read it to you: I was paraphrasing Trump in sentence 1. And, in sentence 2, was expressing my seething contempt for those, and by your own admission that would include you, who believe our President should in any degree condone the actions of the bombers. I freely confess to having a great deal of intolerance for people who act and think in certain ways that are callously harmful to others. I am also capable of finding such people despicable. But I don't hate them. Oh, and its badge of honor.

So if and when it is found that the people who sent the bombs are far right wing Trump supporters, you will admit that Trump is evil? Never. Ron wants this thing called SHTF so much he can taste the sweetness. For him it would be a clear validation of prophecy. The icing on the cake, of course, would be watching a bunch of pansey's get their asses kicked. It's just astonishing how many are like him these day's. Who could imagine that nearly two years after Trump was elected he could still rally crowds of morons chanting the same false crap they chanted during the campaign? No one is doing a goddamn thing to these people except living their own lives as they see fit and yet they pray for anarchy as if their kids were being taken away to gay conversion factories and their wives were forced to cook Hillary Clinton's recipes. And now bombs are being sent to innocent people and they, and their nitwit president, think it's just desserts. It's lunacy.

A average citizen from middle America strikes leading Democratic Party members in a series of letter bomb attacks. Terrorism or Patriotism? Paranoia by an American hero or a desperate action to preserve the US way of life? Are the whispers of a secret government pulling these strings more than just rumors? Lines are drawn as politics become warfare in the latest bestseller by this author. Sounds like a shitty airport novel doesn’t it? How the fuck did we get here? Our President is an ass. He is unfit to be President. In other words, good on you bombers, now we have their attention. I have nothing but seething contempt for those who believe this is Presidential.

That's not exactly what I was saying. I was responding specifically to a comment how local law enforcement have on occasions prevented proper analysis and investigations taking place. That is not right. FAA, like CAA, know jack about parachuting. What I was suggesting, was that USPA ask FAA to give authority to suitably qualified parachutists/skydivers to conduct proper investigations of fatal accidents. Effectively giving them the same authority as FAA aircraft accident inspectors. These would be people who hold senior ratings and who have extensive experience in Instructing, Rigging, Tandems etc etc. Their job would be to conduct investigations and produce in depth reports relating to skydiving fatalities. Its exactly what happens in several other countries, so the system has already been tested and proven. This would put the local law enforcement in their rightful place, as supervisors of investigations, but off to one side, except, of course, in the case of foul play, a la the recent Cilliers case in the UK. (Imagine if, in that case, the police had prevented a proper investigation. Cilliers would have got away with his crime. Do we know for sure that hasn't happened already in the US?) FAA need not be involved at all, apart from perhaps receiving a copy of the final report. Tim, That resonates, sure. Are you able to provide nation specific examples of situations when klutzy local law enforcement ruined evidence that, were it not ruined, would have saved the lives of Skydivers? Joe

Would you mind writing this again in your native language?

In abstract terms, it's when one has no preference as to which party of the contract they are. That's somewhat problematic here, because the utility has to sell energy, but they could get by without buying, and the customer (usually) has to buy some energy, but could get by without selling. In this case, same price either direction is fair. The customer makes the investment and takes all of the risk on their side. They usually don't get to pick their supplier. Charging only for net usage, not net usage plus a surcharge for being a responsible human, is fair. Not really. Fairness is subjective to the contracting parties.

What Kool Aid? This was a lesson in energy grid economics for which I am very much appreciative. As a result, I intend to study this a bit more. That said, I read no inherent wrongness to Solar Power in the postings. The fact is that public policy is often shaped by these sorts of inequities. Cigarette smokers, as a matter of public policy, are heavily taxed to affect that behavior. I see that as good policy. Subsidizing solar, at least here and now, also seems like good policy. But then I believe that anthropogenic climate change is real. Nothing wrong with solar...it's just not applicable in some parts of the country. Unfortunately public policy up to now has been written on the west coast. Here in the flyover states we'll still need coal, nuke, and natural gas. I'm seeing more wind sites here in Ohio. Seems we have more windy days than sunny. If you're fortunate enough to live where solar can replace the others then good for you. I'd like to see more work done to address someplace other than where it's 80 and sunny 300 days per year. Fantastic. I'll spread the word. Better yet, I''l spray paint on the sign at the border: Oregon, where it's 80 and sunny 300 days per year.