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	Climate Change Has been a Routine Scare Tactic Since the 1930sJoeWeber replied to airdvr's topic in Speakers Corner I get it that she has a certain good fortune that allows her green escapade. But, considering that she sailed here as a passenger on a professionally crewed $5 Million dollar IMOCA Class 60 racing yacht I definitely find the whole sailing here because airplane travel is so polluting schtick somewhat galling. Again, I'm no denier but to me this was definitely a case of right church, wrong pew.
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	Climate Change Has been a Routine Scare Tactic Since the 1930sJoeWeber replied to airdvr's topic in Speakers Corner Ken, I'm no denier and she pissed off me. Scolding adults in the brash, insulting way she did at the UN was out of line.
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	It hasn't and likely never will but that's simply because we give lip service only to International Conventions. Some nations take such things seriously. I would howl with laughter if some innocent world leader was sent swirling down the Trump Toilet just from taking his call.
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	And why not? When the President does it that means it's not illegal. Well, that is when our President does it. Some of those other world leaders, in particular those whose countries don't flip the bird at the International Court of Justice, should brush up on the "Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of their Independence and Sovereignty, which in part states: "no state has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other state . . ."
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	Some day's I think the College Professors and the Engineers should have their own Moderator. Coreece might be a good choice, depending on your definition of good.
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	That's why I say attack. He doesn't have a real defensive game. Rattle him and he'll make mistakes. The more he comes unglued the more likely it is that people close to him will turn out of self preservation if nothing else.
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	Jeez John, airdvr got a new ride, said he was looking for a name, and things got lighthearted. No one in this thread, until you now, said anything about a young freshman congresswoman. And frankly, while I support the idea of activism by young people, I do think Greta is a bit made up and over the top. Not everything is deathly serious. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if Brent could be a fun guy to get shit faced with, you know, if there was no one else.
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	Hey Jerry, Here's a picture of my dad and some of his Antifa friends over Ploesti, Romania protesting an assemblage of white nationalists. He strongly believed in a strong military but he also believed, as did Eisenhower, it should not be who we are.
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	When I first showed up at SC I noticed there were a lot of very clever people working hard to get Ron to see the light but going nowhere. Thinking that there must be a prize for whomever was first I got after it, too. But like all who came before me: nada. He'll continue to get takers and continue to use this forum as a platform. He knows exactly what he's doing, tin foil hat or not.
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	No Solar Mia?
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	No Regreta's
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	The Russians are too smart to talk crime on a telephone Trump, obviously, is not.
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	One can only imagine what the dipshit blurted out on a call with Putin or whomever that has the Russians claiming diplomatic privilege this early in the game. It must be good.
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	Now the Russians are claiming to have a say in which transcripts can be released to Congress. For clarification: Our Congress. “Of course their publication is to some extent only possible by mutual agreement of the parties. This is a certain diplomatic practice,” said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov. “Diplomatic practice in general does not envisage their publication. If there are some signals from the Americans, then we will discuss [them].”
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	No, no, no. You need to read the entire post or you'll lose the meaning. See, in the year 2050 when CO2 is at 800ppm, and then President Scooby LaPierre has renumbered the Constitution putting the second amendment in it's rightful First Place position, we'll just pull out our fusion ray guns and halt the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere because FUN! So stop your damn worrying.
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	In a thready nearby, Ron said: "I am not what most would call a normal Christian." No kidding.
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	Skwrl Brother, this has been ongoing for a long time with Ron. It's just a broken record. He keeps at it and then he takes a break and then someone say's hey, where you been, I hope you're good. And then he runs the same crap and the next crew engages thinking they can say it in a way that no one else could. Maybe that's you. Good luck.
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	For fucks sake, can we not resist responding to this idiocy as if it's a useful conversational topic?
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	The Oracle has spoken: "Fear not the error of your ways for unproven technology will surely save you." Next time you check in with her please find out if the rate will change. That would be helpful. Now that I know, I sort of feel like a dope for giving up low pulling before they had decent AAD's.
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	Feel sorry for yourself, thanks. No one here is arguing what you just now claimed again. We aren't Pollyanna's or Chicken Littles. We get it that aspects of the GND are the best that will happen. We get it that we can not, by decision, control CO2 emissions worldwide. And I'm pretty sure we all understand that CO2 will continue to rise for the rest of our lives unless we get lucky. As I see it, we are mostly thinking that by being honest about real science we might get on a path that makes getting lucky more likely. You continue to think in terms of meaningless time frames like "the rest of our lives". I've asked you before to answer hard questions like what level of CO2 would cause you concern. I think I might also have queried you as to rate of increase, too. But Nada. Instead you issue out more crap science. I do not disagree that today and tomorrow are not the problem. I also think I'll die without suffering too much due to climate change. But I am absolutely concerned with the rate of increase in CO2. Credible science is the reason why. Maybe you're right and we should all be dancing in the streets and burning clam shells. But you might be wrong and seeing as you aren't Richard Feynman maybe you ought not to act so certain.
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	Good man. You're an inspiration to us all
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	About your coming gout, is your heart still O.K? I assume you think it was worth the money.
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	I'm good. I've got the carbon credits from saving the 20,454 acre Opal Creek Wilderness in the bank. Also that much and more for some roadless area and wild and scenic river work. Extra altitude anyone?
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	So no one actually plummets to their death from 13,000 feet, right? The plummeting doesn't start until 2000 feet. Up until then it's just a lot of fun and a pilot chute toss.
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	Lighten up. He's obviously President wonderful for you. I think he's a douche and a criminal. I also believe he's a traitor. Maybe he knows it, maybe not. Either way I think he needs to go. For sure he is his own worst enemy; rattle him and he'll make mistakes. Don't worry, I'm pretty sure we'll fuck this up.

