Nightingale

so, the white house isn't telling the whole story... Moore's not telling the whole story... the big difference here is that one is a filmmaker with no obligation to tell the whole story, and the other is...well...our government. It seems like you're saying that we shouldn't criticize our government because it might make the terrorists think we're divided and they might maybe attack us again because they could possibly think we're weak. Part of what makes the US what it is is that we're free to speak our minds. When we lose the right to speak out against the government if they're doing things we don't like, that really doesn't make us "free" anymore, does it?

Bill can defend himself just fine. He doesn't need me to do it for him. YOU apparently didn't read all of HIS statement, or else you didn't understand it.

no. you would not be "guilty of possession" because Billvon's post stated that you purchased it WHEN IT WAS LEGAL and used it WHEN IT WAS LEGAL. you simply could not produce any evidence that you didn't have any after it was outlawed.

and you think we're getting the story in its "entirety and fullness" from the white house?? Moore told what Bush didn't.

why Tuna... you're more left than I am! My political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41 I'm more libertarian than lefty. I'm all for personal freedoms, and I've found the republican party wants to restrict too many. Main reason I remain registered democrat is that I want a say in the democratic primaries.

:2:0 2 5ways with Billvon, Amy, Clownburner, and Vallerina. I brainlocked the first one completely, but we got 7 points on the second one.

cool. the political compass has a quiz on their website that will tell you where you fall, politically. Its very interesting. http://www.politicalcompass.org/

ok- main issues: gun control abortion rights prayer in schools bilingual/multicultural education education funding gay marriage rights school vouchers Drilling for oil in the ANWR or any other issues you can think of...

what do you agree with the democratic party on, Tuna? I agree with republicans on their stance on gun ownership.

1. it fit me 2. I liked the canopies 3. I liked the colors 4. it was the right price Javelin container DOM 1999 Silhouette 190 DOM 1999, 800 jumps, new lines PD 176 Reserve, 2 rides Cypres DOM 1994 $1800.00

to compare Bush and Kerry's taxes, you'd have to compare income, assets, and charitable contributions of both the two gentlemen and their wives. Without more information, the numbers are meaningless.

I'll be there on saturday...lets jump!

I kinda like the symbol the way it is.

talk to a jeweler. they should be able to replace the cheap metal pin with something more high quality, or maybe plate the one thats in there with platinum or something.

I brought in Rod Stewart's Forever Young for my AFF. There's that new country song "Live like you were dying". Dunno about any other stuff.

answering how to resist terrorism is not moore's job. That's the president's job, and frankly, I think he's screwed up.

not wanting to cause panic is no excuse for an almost ten minute delay in action. a simple statement of "ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry, but something has come up, and I have to go now." certainly would've been better.

have you seen the movie? it absolutely does NOT support terrorism. the scenes of 9/11 in the movie make it clear that terrorism is horrific and awful.

I stopped wearing a watch when I started working renaissance faire. No wristwatches allowed for faire workers in costume. Before that, I never realized just how much the watch was controlling the way I lived my life. I ate lunch when it was "lunchtime", not when I was hungry. silly, yes? I started thinking... its a weekend, WTF do I need to know what time it is? I don't have to be anywhere or do anything at a certain time. For a few days, when I didn't have my watch, it drove me nuts. Now, seven years later, I go to bed when I'm tired, I eat when I'm hungry, and I have a 24 hour gym membership, so I work out when I feel like it.

ugh. the plot was too contrived. **SPOILER ALERT** I didn't like the part where Peter "lost" his spider powers. It was too damn convenient that when he wanted to stop being spiderman, the powers left him, so he couldn't be spidey even if he wanted to change his mind. It was too easy. Would've been better if he'd kept the powers and chose not to use them. More emotional struggle.

Lucy Lawless.

do men and women think alike? HELL NO! from Dave Barry's guide to guys: Let's say a guy named Roger is attracted to a woman named Elaine. He asks her out to a movie; she accepts; they have a pretty good time. A few nights later he asks her out to dinner, and again they enjoy themselves. They continue to see each other regularly, and after a while neither one of them is seeing anybody else. And then, one evening when they're driving home, a thought occurs to Elaine, and, without really thinking, she says it aloud: ''Do you realize that, as of tonight, we've been seeing each other for exactly six months?'' And then there is silence in the car. To Elaine, it seems like a very loud silence. She thinks to herself: Geez, I wonder if it bothers him that I said that. Maybe he's been feeling confined by our relationship; maybe he thinks I'm trying to push him into some kind of obligation that he doesn't want, or isn't sure of. And Roger is thinking: Gosh. Six months. And Elaine is thinking: But, hey, I'm not so sure I want this kind of relationship, either. Sometimes I wish I had a little more space, so I'd have time to think about whether I really want us to keep going the way we are, moving steadily toward . . . I mean, where are we going? Are we just going to keep seeing each other at this level of intimacy? Are we heading toward marriage? Toward children? Toward a lifetime together? Am I ready for that level of commitment? Do I really even know this person? And Roger is thinking: . . . so that means it was . . . let's see . . ...February when we started going out, which was right after I had the car at the dealer's, which means . . . lemme check the odometer . . . Whoa! I am way overdue for an oil change here. And Elaine is thinking: He's upset. I can see it on his face. Maybe I'm reading this completely wrong. Maybe he wants more from our relationship, more intimacy, more commitment; maybe he has sensed -- even before I sensed it -- that I was feeling some reservations. Yes, I bet that's it. That's why he's so reluctant to say anything about his own feelings. He's afraid of being rejected. And Roger is thinking: And I'm gonna have them look at the transmission again. I don't care what those morons say, it's still not shifting right. And they'd better not try to blame it on the cold weather this time. What cold weather? It's 87 degrees out, and this thing is shifting like a goddamn garbage truck, and I paid those incompetent thieves $600. And Elaine is thinking: He's angry. And I don't blame him. I'd be angry, too. God, I feel so guilty, putting him through this, but I can't help the way I feel. I'm just not sure. And Roger is thinking: They'll probably say it's only a 90-day warranty. That's exactly what they're gonna say, the scumballs. And Elaine is thinking: Maybe I'm just too idealistic, waiting for a knight to come riding up on his white horse, when I'm sitting right next to a perfectly good person, a person I enjoy being with, a person I truly do care about, a person who seems to truly care about me. A person who is in pain because of myself-centered, schoolgirl romantic fantasy. And Roger is thinking: Warranty? They want a warranty? I'll give them a goddamn warranty. I'll take their warranty and stick it right up their ... ''Roger,'' Elaine says aloud. ''What?'' says Roger, startled. ''Please don't torture yourself like this,'' she says, her eyes beginning to brim with tears. ''Maybe I should never have . . Oh God, I feel so ... '' (She breaks down, sobbing.) ''What?'' says Roger. ''I'm such a fool,'' Elaine sobs. ''I mean, I know there's no knight. I really know that. It's silly. There's no knight, and there's no horse.'' ''There's no horse?'' says Roger. ''You think I'm a fool, don't you?'' Elaine says. ''No!'' says Roger, glad to finally know the correct answer. ''It's just that . . . It's that I . . . I need some time,'' Elaine says. (There is a 15-second pause while Roger, thinking as fast as he can, tries to come up with a safe response. Finally he comes up with one that he thinks might work.) "Yes,'' he says. (Elaine, deeply moved, touches his hand.) ''Oh, Roger, do you really feel that way?'' she says. ''What way?'' says Roger. ''That way about time,'' says Elaine. ''Oh,'' says Roger. ''Yes.'' (Elaine turns to face him and gazes deeply into his eyes, causing him to become very nervous about what she might say next, especially if it involves a horse. (At last she speaks.) ''Thank you, Roger,'' she says. ''Thank you,'' says Roger. Then he takes her home, and she lies on her bed, a conflicted, tortured soul, and weeps until dawn, whereas when Roger gets back to his place, he opens a bag of Doritos, turns on the TV, and immediately becomes deeply involved in a rerun of a tennis match between two Czechoslovakians he never heard of. A tiny voice in the far recesses of his mind tells him that something major was going on back there in the car, but he is pretty sure there is no way he would ever understand what, and so he figures it's better if he doesn't think about it. (This is also Roger's policy regarding world hunger.) The next day Elaine will call her closest friend, or perhaps two of them, and they will talk about this situation for six straight hours. In painstaking detail, they will analyze everything she said and everything he said, going over it time and time again, exploring every word, expression, and gesture for nuances of meaning, considering every possible ramification. They will continue to discuss this subject, off and on, for weeks, maybe months, never reaching any definite conclusions, but never getting bored with it, either. Meanwhile, Roger, while playing racquetball one day with a mutual friend of his and Elaine's, will pause just before serving, frown, and say: ''Norm, did Elaine ever own a horse?'' Dave Barry's Guide to Guys

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according to the Park, they all knew what it meant. The name was proposed by someone on staff there. They knew what it meant, but used it anyway, because it was funny.

nope. we needed to get the backing of the UN, and, IF invasion was warranted, it needed to be a global effort. At the time we went to war, we didn't have the appropriate information. We should have waited for the UN. I don't believe one country has the right to invade another when that country hasn't attacked it. IF it was some kind of "human rights effort" (and we all know better), it should've been with the support of the UN.