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Still curious here. My RSL deployed my reserve while I was on my back. Why is that bad? My understanding is that a reserve isn't designed to open at it best when you're belly to earth stable. Edited to add: I've only seen about a half dozen reserve deployments, and the only one I saw that resulted in serious injury was the only one I saw where the reserve was deployed in a stable, belly to earth position. That jump was a Cypres fire and the reserve PC bounced around on the guy's back a few times before it caught clean air. Not an RSL issue at all but still..... he was stable. Owned by Remi #?

I understand that you didn't need it, but would it have been a bad thing? Owned by Remi #?

Is that true of your first cutaway? Just curious and not trying to make too many waves here. You're clearly capable of handling a bad situation, but would an RSL have been a bad thing the first time you had a mal? Owned by Remi #?

Well... you never know what you're going to get when you deploy. Odds are high you'll get a good canopy, but don't get complacent because you have a light wingloading. I jump a Sabre2 loaded about exactly the same as your Spectre. I never thought my first cutaway would be from a violent spinner. Guess what? My first cutaway was from a violent spinner. It was chaotic, frantic, and frightening to me. I also had utmost confidence that I would execute my EPs without a problem. Guess what? I missed my cutaway handle twice before I pulled it. I also lost sight of my reserve handle and watched the RSL beat me to it as I located it under my chin. I'm not a bad skydiver, borg. I'm not slow physically or mentally. Bad sh!t happens to good people. Again... please consider the advice a lot of people who know a hell of a lot more than I do are giving you. Connect that RSL until you have first hand experience with a mal then give yourself a chance to re-evaluate. Owned by Remi #?

Why do you worry? If you do a little research on these forums you'll find a lot of discussion about the pros and cons of RSLs. You'll also find that no matter which side of the argument most people are on they almost universally agree that less experienced jumpers should wear them until they've had at least one cutaway. A lot of highly experienced jumpers and instructors seem to agree that the RSL has saved many more lives than it's been the cause of a problem. Please consider following their advice. Owned by Remi #?

I meant to include this with my last post: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=18 Owned by Remi #?

Have you considered the advantage it might provide if you have any trouble cutting away and you lose a lot of altitude in the process? Owned by Remi #?

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It had to happen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Owned by Remi #?

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Thanks. That makes sense. Owned by Remi #?

Thread drift. Moved from Incidents Doesn't that create a problem based on the fact that the cutaway cables should be trimmed to release the non-RSL riser first? Owned by Remi #?

I haven't laughed so hard in a while Thanks. Owned by Remi #?

My plan was similar except that I practice the two-handed method. Last week I had my first cutaway and things didn't go exactly as I'd planned. I forgot to "peel" the cutaway handle and it didn't come loose. I attribute that to not "peeling" when I practice my EPs. On my second attempt after I realized my mistake I lost my grip. On my third attempt I got it right but I looked away from my reserve handle as I pulled. My RSL beat me easily. My reserve opened just as I found my reserve handle. Sure, I pulled it anyway but it certainly wasn't necessary. I was more or less just glad to have survived 2 mistakes and was going to pull all the handles I had regardless of need. Not everyone would see the need. For me, surviving my mistakes and a cutaway that didn't go as planned was very, very humbling. I also learned that a lightly loaded Sabre2 can spin a lot faster than I'd assumed. Owned by Remi #?

I suppose I worded that badly. I was trying to point out that woodpecker didn't bump the thread. The previous poster did. And not with a laugh but with what looked like an attempt to ask people to think. Owned by Remi #?

Why did you reply to one person and quote another? In all fairness, woodpecker might not have a clue what happened in Atlanta this weekend. Not everyone stays glued to the incident forum. The thread is funny. It's timing is awkward. I personally don't see a reason to delete it. Owned by Remi #?

Hope you're prepared to deal with your emergency drills not going exactly as you've planned. Owned by Remi #?

This isn't really directly related to my original post but I wanted to share this experience for what it's worth. I did a hop-n-pop tonight with a friend. We exited at about 5000 feet. I only took about a 5 second delay because I wanted to have some fun with my canopy. I opened with 4-5 line twists and wondered right away what had caused them because I was on line of flight and dead stable when I opened. Just as I reached up to my risers to start the process of kicking them out, my canopy disappeared behind me and I started spinning on my back. I was still holding my risers when I realized there was no way I was going to kick out of those twists. It happened very quickly and caught me very much by surprise. I decided I had to cutaway and looked at my cutaway handle, grabbed it, pulled...and nothing. Couldn't get it out of the pocket. I realized right away that I needed to peel it off first and started twisting it out of the pocket and lost my grip on it. At that point I was still looking at my reserve handle. Oddly enough at that instant I also tried to remember if I had fed my dog supper before I went to the dz... Then I decided that my priority had to be cutting away the main. My feet were starting to tingle and throb from the blood rushing into them and I was afraid. I looked back at my cutaway handle, grabbed it, twisted it, and pulled. Away went the main... I looked back for the reserve handle and couldn't find it. I dropped my left hand as far as I could on my MLW and traced up to the handle and just as I found it about half way between my shoulder and my chin I saw my reserve already deploying. I grabbed the handle anyway and pulled it as hard and fast as I could. I'm happy to be living. Thanks, Wink :-) Owned by Remi #?

Yup. Our plane has instructions on the bottom that explain how to float back up and push someone back into the plane if they exit too soon after you The comments that watching the plane fly away helps with heading control and form are right on the money in my opinion. So are the comments that it's just "plane" a cool visual Owned by Remi #?

http://www.l-and-b.dk/protrack.html Here's a link to the Pro-Track info... It's pretty basic.. it's an electronic altimeter with a simple set of programs that calculate intersesting details about a jump, including the number of feet descended and the time it took to descend. It starts measuring freefall speed at exit and stops at deployment. Owned by Remi #?

I've heard people talk about using a GPS in the air, but usually they're looking at them under canopy not in freefall. The devices I mentioned earlier are more appropriate for calculating freefall speed. Two common audibles that record freefall speed are the Neptune and Pro-Track Owned by Remi #?

Don't forget that "coefficient of drag" also changes depending upon how much fun you are having and how colorful your jumpsuit is. Owned by Remi #?

Divide the distance you fall in miles by the time it takes in hours. Most folks use an audible altimeter with a feature that keeps track of it for them. Owned by Remi #?

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