RonD1120

right wing conservative christian opinions are without common sense..... Intentional. Common sense will not lead you to salvation in Christ Jesus. However, not on topic. So, despite supposedly being "created" with the unique ability to reason (according to the bible you follow), you turn your back on reason and logic and instead advocate blind acceptance of whatever "truth" the conservative blog-o-sphere (or minister, or whatever authority figure feels correct today) vomits up. Too bad we don't have the technology for you to donate some of your cerebral hemispheres to soldiers who have suffered brain injuries, as it seems you don't care to use what you have. Don If that is not a PA, then I don't know what is. Ah! It is just another example of the Peter Principle. It is good to see you here. There are of a few of us that post well reasoned, Scripturally correct messages. I tend to be cranky and caustic. We need your input. Hang on, its like being the rear floater on a big-way. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I knew if I responded to your bait you would become absurd. You always do. Thanks for not disappointing me and remaining true to your character. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Summa Theologica is a surprisingly easy read (at least, the English translation), in the form of questions and answers, most less than a page long, starting out with "Is there a God?" and going from there to the nature of God, the Trinity, the nature of good and evil, the nature of Christ, etc..., putting Biblical concepts alongside tangible observations. You would probably find parts 1 and 3 most interesting. I think a lot of protestants avoid things like the Summa, because it does rely on things outside the Bible, like logic and observation to provide strength to its points (and, as it is pre-reformation, it was obviously written by a Catholic), and uses these things alongside the Bible. However, they forget that to a non-Christian, the Bible alone is as meaningless as the Vedas or the Koran is to a Christian, so spouting off Bible verses to an atheist with absolutely nothing else is probably going to be very ineffective. In speaking with them, the arguments found in the Summa may be very useful. There is a vast difference between belief as an act of faith and believing as an act of blind faith. You have presented a convincing argument to read it. Maybe right after I finish Decision Points by George W. Bush. As I have said many times before, I do not think you can logically persuade anyone to accept Jesus by debate. I believe you can only plant the seeds. Then somewhere down the line the Holy Spirit will put them at the defining crossroads where the life assurance decision is a viable alternative. At that juncture they either accept or reject Christ. If they accept Jesus in their humble heart they will receive undeniable validation and confirmation. If they reject Him they will receive an increase of satanic evidence that they have made the right choice and they are truly masters of their fate. I believe there are those among us here on SC that have chosen the latter course of action. Likewise their are some for whom the decision is pending. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I agree. The career NCO's will make the appropriate assignments. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of your government. And you don't have the balls to answer the question of how far you would go on the orders of your government. It's an absurd argument because it absolves the individual of responsibility for any atrocity, no matter how heinous, as long as they were told to do it by someone higher up the chain than them. What? I will follow any orders from my government. Right now I would like to change the leadership of my government so that I don't have to do anything distasteful, like pay more taxes to provide more welfare to illegal aliens and ghetto rats. Killing a declared enemy, not a problem. I may have nightmares later but he's dead. Is that clear enough for you jakee? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I've had a tremendous amount of fun with this thread this afternoon. When I was in the USAF we had three effeminate guys in our squadron. They all performed above their duties with respect and professionalism. Nobody asked and nobody told. Off base I once walked into a bedroom at a party and found two guys under the covers in an embrace. They begged me not to report them. I didn't and don't know what became of them. They were not in my squadron. We had an Air Commando B-26 pilot that was the epitome of gung ho. He dressed in crisp starched tailored fatigues, blue ascot (when no one else wore one for normal duty), spit shined boots and his AC Bush Hat at just the right angle. The story goes that one day a fellow pilot asked him if he was queer. His response was "Fuck you, I fly B-26's." He rotated to SVN just like everybody else. No further asking and, no tellin'. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

WOW....that spin made me dizzy....I don't think ANY flamer shoudl wear the unifrom of our military... Gay? no ones fucking business... It is a matter of Conduct, not sex! Hey, I'm just sayin', let the bad ass fags man the tip of the spear. See attached unit emblem. The flammers can be an unending source of amusement. Somehow, I just don't think the situation will continue for very long. The one's that aren't flamming will be clerks and dispensary personnel, or they can opt for a spot in the TSA. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Everybody has the opportunity for eternal life. It is God's will that none should perish. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

As have eating shrimp and lobster. That was my original point and you've just circled yourself right back to it. Tell us again, please, what JC would say about eating these tasty little shellfish? Bye. Wait, don't hang up. Shellfish is OT. Homosexuality is both OT and NT. I'm still on track. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Do you remember the late 60's when "Today's action ARMY wants to join you" was the recruiting campaign? The ARMY decided that haircut regulation length was determined by whether or not you could cover it with your cap. Black guys were looking for sizes 8 1/2 + so they could keep their Afros. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You are going in circles. Jesus clearly declared that He was the way to truth and eternal life. You can't get a pass without accepted Him, His atoning death and resurrection. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

That's Paul, not JC Where's JC? Come back if you find it. Revelation 21:8, 27. Homosexuality has previously been defined as an abomination in Scripture. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I had 2 jumping buddies that were LEO's. One was a FDLE narcotics supervisor and the other a sniper for the Lakeland PD. They both explained the sniper job to me something like this. The sniper is ordered into position and locks on the target. He has a spotter/communications partner on the radio to the command post. The sniper concentrates on the target. His partner will relay commands of "Red, Red, Red, Green" When the sniper hears "Green" he takes his shot. That scenario could last for hours. The sniper's professional skill is accuracy and intense focus. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Did you ever discuss this with a SWAT team sniper? How many civilian LEO SWAT team snipers are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice? The order to kill is the issue. SWAT team snipers are ordered to take the kill shot. It is not a personal choice. That is the point that I see. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Romans 1:24-32 is specific on that and other like issues. You correct in that unrepentant lustful sin is condemning. The main focus of sin, that which violates God's plan for us, is that we choose what we want not what He wants for our lives. Jesus' atoning death allows us to receive the gift of eternal life, if we want it. Gays in the military? Crap, I don't know someone led me down this path. I think if you want that risky lifestyle then you ought to be allowed to openly serve in the military. Killing the declared enemy will not send you to hell. Not accepting Jesus Christ will. Nobody changes until the pain of change is less than the pain of staying the same. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Did you ever discuss this with a SWAT team sniper? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

In that case, I'd like some scriptural references from the new testament that mention JC's views on homosexuality, please. http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=53&source=2&seq=i.52.1.5 Romans 1: Commentary as follows: "The sins of the Gentiles set forth. In the horrid depravity of the heathen, the truth of our Lord's words was shown: to �Light was come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil; for he that doeth evil hateth the light. to � The truth was not to their taste. And we all know how soon a man will contrive, against the strongest evidence, to reason himself out of the belief of what he dislikes. But a man cannot be brought to greater slavery than to be given up to his own lusts. As the Gentiles did not like to keep God in their knowledge, they committed crimes wholly against reason and their own welfare. The nature of man, whether pagan or Christian, is still the same; and the charges of the apostle apply more or less to the state and character of men at all times, till they are brought to full submission to the faith of Christ, and renewed by Divine power. There never yet was a man, who had not reason to lament his strong corruptions, and his secret dislike to the will of God. Therefore this chapter is a call to self-examination, the end of which should be, a deep conviction of sin, and of the necessity of deliverance from a state of condemnation." The following contains commentary with Scripture by a former lesbian. http://www.gospel.com/bookmarks/Scripture-Twisting-Bible-Homosexuality-Into-Thy/3618 There is also a reference in The Revelation of Jesus Christ by John but, I can't seem to locate at the moment. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

C'mon your point is moot. It is a job choice. Same as choosing to be a law enforcement officer. Cops are ordered to kill also. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

What would he say about eating shrimp and lobster? I'm serious. Probably suggest cocktail sauce and melted butter with lemon and garlic since that was an Old Testament law/rule. You must remember it is all a new deal after His sacrificial and atoning death on the cross and subsequent resurrection. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of your government. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

He would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. Do you need Scripture reference? Or, did you mean Walking With Jack Daniels? edit to add last sentence Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

you must be older than twardo Yep, I think somewhere around 15 years. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

A few months ago one of the regular posters on the VVATalklist stated that approximately 600 SEAL Team members had actually served in Vietnam and that he met all 2000 of them. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The statement is ignorant. Gays have been, are, and always will serve in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing at all to do with allowing gays in the military. What a lot of people are missing in these discussions is that DADT actually allowed gays to serve without having to lie to enlist. The repeal of DADT is about allowing gays to serve openly. I agree with your last sentence. However, I think Coulter's quote is in alignment with your position. It is about the liberal agenda overall. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

No, no, on the contrary, I know that some can be fierce fighters same as women. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.