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I'm gonna have to agree with Chuck on this one. It's not just utilitarian either... it's fun! My favorite part of any group dive is going out last, diving hard to the formation, and feeling the G's as I put on the brakes and change from one mode of flight to another. And by the way, what is the deal with that picture? And why is his head so small? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

No stalling, show us now. And video!

All variables the same, Joe Schmoe would be much safer behind the wheel of a car than in the cockpit of a jet. The act of driving a car is safer than the act of piloting a jet. The fact that jet pilots go through so much training and have a backup pilot just reinforces that it is inherently risky. All those precautions make it safer in practice, which is the exact point I was making, and as you said the numbers back that up. If automobile drivers took all the same training/precautions, the numbers would reflect that as well. My point was the incident ratios of BASE vs skydiving (or anything vs anything else) do not necessarily show with activity is inherently safer. They show which is being practiced more safely, on average. Example: Take 100 morons and give them an easy task to do, and 50 of them fail. Take 100 geniuses and give them a hard task to do and 10 of them fail. Does that mean the hard task was easier? No, it just means the hard task got done better in that case study. (I'm not calling anyone morons or geniuses, just making a point). I would hope and do assume most BASE jumpers are more cautious than most skydivers, because their sport is more inherently risky. Whatever the numbers would say if we had them, would only tell us which sportsmen are being safer, not necessarily which sport is safer. My point is you can't use statistics to argue how inherently risky something is, you have to use logic. And for many reasons already explained in this thread, BASE is obviously more inherently risky than skyjumping... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

He asked for casualty ratios, which I'd imagine aren't readily available. But incident ratio is not always directly correlated with risk level. My example is driving a car vs piloting a passenger jet. There are many more car accidents (both gross numbers and per capita, however you would measure that) than airliner accidents. However, driving a car is much safer than flying a jet. Eh, but then if you add in the risk of all the other morons on the road, it might turn out driving is more dangerous again. Regardless of that, my point remains that the numerous car traffic accidents I see are usually people trying to negotiate a simple problem and failing because they are distracted or not skilled enough. I.e. they're screwing up often at something that's rarely difficult/dangerous. As opposed to commercial pilots who screw up rarely at things that are often difficult/dangerous. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Hell, I'm in it, in an S3! Nice video, James.

I noticed the D-boxes Bonehead has for these cameras are recommended as top mounts but say they "can" be side mounted as well. I also noticed they are a little wider than the PC series, with the HC90 (the one I am most interested in) being the widest (1/2" wider than the PC boxes, I think). Would that extra width, on a side mount, create a greater hazard/hassle? Thanks. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

My first GTi was too short and I had a rigger take out the vertical strip that goes around your toe and replace it with a longer strip. The "Frankenstein bootie mod". Sounds like you are going to do the opposite... I almost suggested that to you before but wasn't sure how much shorter you could make it and still have the bootie fit over a shoe. Let me know how it works. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Don't forget Perry for his 10 lbs of shrimp. That is the most shrimp I've eaten in one sitting, ever. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Scotty Burns if you're out there, you need to post the video of Perry trying to fly his slot in that Phantom. It is the funniest thing I saw all weekend. He could not make that suit stop flying. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Good to finally jump with you Travis. Hope to make more with you and Perry soon, and I do like your idea about the alternating DZ events. Of course, that's easy for me because of my central location, but I know there are other people down for that idea too. The good weather months are coming up, so let's get it together! I'll reiterate the "thanks" to Scott Bland for his hard work and to everyone else who showed up and had fun with the flock. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Sorry, I've only seen one Phi and it was slightly pre-production I think, and I don't know how many here are familiar with the suit yet either, as it is so new. Hopefully it is an easy solution and BM or someone else will be able to help you out.

Perhaps you should contact Bird-man. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Is that hard to believe? Looks kinda like him to me, from the avatar. And I know what he looks like, since I will never forget introducing myself to him at the beer tent and having him dry hump my leg (instead of shake my hand) and proceed to tell about 30 bad jokes. Which I'll admit was amusing... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

"What did he do?" That about sums it up. W-T-F? Anyone have any story behind that jump? Also, what suit is that? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Yeh I know, but I'm a bitch for details. I.e. temperatures (warm or HOT), humidity, and chances of jumping every day (rain/wind/clouds). I'm ASSuming since they are holding a boogie (the biggest one ever apparently!) then that it's probably a good time for it. But I still figured it couldn't hurt to ask since I know nothing about the area.

Wow that sounds like a blast and I've always wanted to visit Australia but I'm not sure if I can afford it. What is the weather like that time of year? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Something nobody else has pointed out - sure it's $20 you could spend on a jump, but you can also think of it as you supporting the USPA, which is always a good thing. I've paid for A, B, C so far... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

It happened pretty early in the week I think. I was there the 5th-14th and I think it happened in the first couple days. I can't remember his name. Eric, or Ed maybe... could be way off. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Ha, that guy was weird. I met him one night at the beer tent and he freaked me out. The next morning a friend says "Hey, remember that weirdo from the beer tent last night? He just got arrested for stealing wallets and gear." www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I'll bring whiskey and a freshly injured shoulder (climbing). I think I'll be ok to jump though. Cya guys on Friday! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

It's in the "print version" apparently... so there's only a pic and headline on the site. Does anyone know if there's a real article in the print version? CRICKY! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Nice proximity on the 2-way stack! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I know what he meant. I disagreed. My time in the sport is irrelevant. It takes two to argue. Besides, haven't you figured out yet that arguing is what DZ.com is all about? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Right on, this will be a fun weekend! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I am assuming that to her (and me), a canopy above one's experience is a death trap (or to put it more lightly, an accident waiting to happen). Do you disagree with this? If A=B and B=C, then A=C. HP canopy = beyond one's skillset. (your statement) Jumping a canopy beyond one's skillset = a bad idea (my statement, but I would be surprised if you disagree with this) Hence, HP canopy = a bad idea. (I disagree with this) www.WingsuitPhotos.com