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Yes i can explain, just talking to my dad who lost his best friend (jewish one) from one day to the next. this friend was a dentist. successful one. suddenly, from one day to the next, he was gone. there was an Aryan, taking over his rooms. you seem to be a little sensible. sorry for that. i do not want to explain further than that: two sisters of my mother died in concentrantion camps. they were half-"jewish", with russian fathers. my grand mother, born in former russia, was 100 % jewish. guess where she died. this is where i will stop now. everybody has his own story. dudeist skydiver # 3105

He you, i am not Robin Hood for the poor Jews.. i just said what i know, been told, been growing up with. thats all. dudeist skydiver # 3105

Just would like to ask you: Do you really not know what i was talking about? what i called "jalousie" simply was business. the jews always were prepared to make a good deal to lend out money if customers were incapable to pay. this at first caused jalousie at the other biz man. the beginning. and in the years between the 2 WW, suddenly the owner of a jewish shop disappeared. this was the next step. did you know that already after 1st WW it was Adolf Hitler's idea to send all jews to Madagasca where they should have built up their own country? of course, leaving their belongings behind them. this is what i considered as jalousie, this f. e. is what i tried to explained in a simple way. whenever you read or hear something about jews, they are called " the jewish race". Hitler wanted to clean Germany (and if possible Europe and the world) from "the jewish race". this is addressed to you and especially @ jimbo: never drink a glass of red wine if "jewish" appear... dudeist skydiver # 3105

I think you were not laughing at all. jews were considered as a "race". at least in hitler's eyes. that's fact. it was not only him calling jews as "the jewish race". that's history. why to spit out ? you obviously do not know or understand. as i said, in very simple words this is conclusion of how jews were considered. i know what i'm talking about. believe what you want. spit out what you need to. it just confirmes scholarship (or lack of) rgds dudeist skydiver # 3105

danke ! dudeist skydiver # 3105

Could you kindly explain to an alien what it means: C in C? thx in advance dudeist skydiver # 3105

The logic is very simple: they were in key positions and still are. just have a look at your politicians, their names, their background, their personal/family history. many jewish names. but as a single one, or even a group, it's impossible to stop attacks, increasing attacks, growing violence. after years of pressure, many of them did what they only were able to do: emigrate. if they were lucky, together with their belongings. i do not know how old you are but, it's not that simple as you see it. again, let me express this in simple words: the jewish race always was considered as the intelligentsia, successful biz makers, intelligent and: they always were a "minority", catching the eyes of jalousie with their "behaviour". nearly all successful minorities are sharing same fate. (Even jews are no minority, only spread all over the world) just that much for better understandings. christel dudeist skydiver # 3105

Sorry, i just had to interfere here: vmsfreaky1 is right. and his statement was no attack on jews. thinking, all jews have influence and are sitting on mountains of money still is actual. if YOU go back to the history you will find out, that over centuries, jews were chased simply because they kept their identity, they were most successfull biz men, made a lot of money, were on key positions in policy and civil power ... (the last part still is valid today) to simplify: others were just jalous. jalous enough to initiate infringements on jewish shops, companies etc. this was increasing up to the attempt of a genocide. i know what i'm talking about as my mother "partially" is jewish. i know the story of her family and others. still today in the 21st century, from time to time i hear phrases like that: ah look, this jewish one, making money like all the jews. this is in mind since centuries. it will take centuries to fade away. leaving the scene, christel dudeist skydiver # 3105

That was simply great ! thx for advise rgds dudeist skydiver # 3105

nice try anyhow dudeist skydiver # 3105

Flaming speech. thank you. i never said that any mistreated child automatically will turn into the biggest a**hole on earth. there are reasons for every wrong behaviour. what i said here, will remain my conviction. you have your own. dudeist skydiver # 3105

Oh yeah, someone's bowing himself so deep no need to read this "report" til the end. first part is slime at its best. comment within Europe before this "event" took place: Laugh laugh laugh ... GBW and Cheney knew why they wanted to sit together, so for future purposes, each one knows what the other one said and will not be in danger to say something different. with re to "Another Family Member...": dudeist skydiver # 3105

In no way it's a good idea to pull early conclusions based on fragment infos. this could degenerate into something very ugly. dudeist skydiver # 3105

F. e., a child grown up in a violent environment, only knows what's his own "right": the "right" of the stronger one, the quicker one, the first one to use the fist, a shot gun. where to draw the line between right or wrong? they simply never were told. I do not remember who wrote this in the thread, but this one had an idea which surely would work: to put these kids for a couple of years under something like military education, to teach them respecting others and their property, simply to learn that life hat its rules. Over here we have some socializing programs of which i think it's wasted money. there are some extremely difficult trainable teenage boys, which are sent to live with their social workers. one of them is sent to Australia, but in return was sent back as intolerably. another one is a 15 yrs old guy who lived in Greece in the family with his social worker. few months ago, he simply killed this man by shooting him down with the item butchers use to kill horses. but: this young guy seriously was brain damaged since his birth due to the alcohol his mother shared with him during pregnancy. just an example. it's a very ill child. In Germany are some tendencies searching for excuses at the criminal's side, accusing the victim. I do not support that, just like to repeat: give kids another chance in life.

This morning, i saw these pics in TV: most disgusting to see a bright smiling young women.... thats repulsively thats frightening that's war??? dudeist skydiver # 3105

Defending myself or my family is a completely different pair of shoes. this never was contents of thread. and on this i would agree with you: defend until death! as i'm a licensed hunter, i own guns which, in case i will use. no doubt! but for the remaining: i stick with what i said. especially regarding kids/teens/youngsters, which need more than one chance to find their proper way.

A lot of violence in your post. sad thing. i know that men are beating their wifes or children after drinking too much, facing too many troubles in job, with the boss and and... there are millions of reasons. in this thread, the story was about a helpless old man and two teen boys. no rapists, no killers.... kids, which inconsiderately hijacked that car, discovered the passanger in it, set him free, started with the race and endet in the tree. one of them dead. what else do you want? bashing the surviving kid? he made his lesson for life. i do not look for any excuse for a killer, f.e. in the contrary, even in Germany i would vote for death penalty in few cases. the danger i see is: violence supplies violence. dudeist skydiver # 3105

Yes. Our only hope is to stay there a few years and try to solve it*** what a wise guy. it's always impressing to hear the voices of (people) soldiers at the stage. the only one who really are capable to judge what's going on over there. we should listen to them carefully. dudeist skydiver # 3105

If starting a discussion like this, we all are in charge of this as soon as we participate. it's not a question of this single one, who's answered and whom i do not agree to. could you kindly explain a little more detailed the meaning of your post? probably, i do not understand your wording? If he (the writer in this tread) is, as he is, what's about the young child? it is, as it is! oh Lord, what a mess, i think i missed the sense of your post... could you kindly explain for a European trying to understand you? thx

You really do believe beating them would bring any results? what a low class thinking is this! your cop buddies were right. people like you with a short fuse should not have any power in hands. i am not a weak mother. in the contrary: as raising up my son nearly by myself, i learned to be rough sometimes. i still am and not going to church every sunday to praise the lord. i left church. but always avoided to beat my son. beating is weakness. you never did any stupid thing in your teenage life? of course, i will not compare with this extremely shocking thread. but hey, you never were 15 and made shit? did you ever met anyone who became a better one by thrashing? Holy Moses, what a strange thinking.. dudeist skydiver # 3105

Yes, this second it was an the news: they will back track the southern part of Fallujah within 3 says, the northern within next. week. a good step. power will behanded over to a former general of SH. dudeist skydiver # 3105

agree. but will you keep a child guilty for what parents did not show/teached them? a child is not responsible for lacks, drinking mothers, criminal fathers. this is not a question only referring to immigrants. as you said, middle class. children do not know what is missing if they never learned it. i would not dare to blame all on a 15 years old one, who doesn't know better. like you, i raised up my son nearly completely alone. there were hard years. but we were together, and i never left him alone. (i hope i never did!!) sorry, i fully do understand you but, also feel so sorry for a 15 yrs old guy to be in prison for a certain time. what will he be after release? my excuse only is for the child. not for the adults. i really would like to beat the parents of this young guy right into the face for what they did with this boy. just a small story: when my son was 13 yrs old, he went to cinemy with his grad-dad (they love each other very much). my father had a heart attack just the moment, they left the warm and sticky cinema room. he fell down. my boy just was yelling to other school children: help, help, call a doctor, my grand-dad needs help! there were several young children of his age, leaving the cinema. many of them helped, keeping old dad in a sitting position, opened his clothes, talked to him.... calling the ambulance. my father afterwards had 2 serious operations. 4 by-passes (hope this is right explanation? . my son and the other (unknown) children saved his life. not easy to judge anything. it seems you feel deeply concerned. try to get over it. one very young guy paid with his life. the other one surely will have no more chance in his life. who's to blame on that? what a shame. dudeist skydiver # 3105

This is disgusting. but nothing new. you will not really expect well educated kids from illegal immigrates, right? how could they be? probably, no surely, their parents were not even teaching them the difference between right or wrong. probably just fighting for food to survive every single day? children, teenagers left alone in the streets w/o any guiding principle, no caressing hand.. children of the street. that's all. very poor children. a danger for the society and themselves. only changes in society can improve on that. this happens all over the world. sad but true. if i just take a look at the statistics in our "little" one-million-city of Cologne: every day you can read in the news papers, that old/very old citizens are knocked down, young guys, mainly junkies, rob just a handbag with 10 euros in it. the old lady or old man remains with broken hips or legs... edit: removed racial reference ~TA dudeist skydiver # 3105

Many thanks to you and @ ladyskydiver for helpful informations. Ad-Aware is downloaded now to any PC available around me christel

what a bunch of nonsens and contradictions just in few sentences! at 1st, the US always did what they wanted to do. at 2nd, who told the US to do what??? at 3rd, the US neglect f. e. UN decisions. what a surprise: the US are a nation rather be uninvolved.... peacefull. who might believe that nonsens?? guy, put your feet back to earh. you cannot really believe the rest of this sentence ! probably, i really misread your post?? let me think again dudeist skydiver # 3105