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Typical HST http://tv.cream.org/gorilla/tvhunter.htm I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Hydrogen, neat. I have to wonder though, does hydrogen really have a shot as the fuel of the future? How much energy does it take to produce hydrogen? I seem to recall that it's a lot, a whole lot more than we get out of it. The next obvious question is - where is the energy necessary to produce hydrogen going to come from? ==================================The most abundant element in the universe. Big oil will fight it tooth and nail.......Nother cleaner in byproducts in my opinion........................................Preparation of hydrogen. In the laboratory, hydrogen can be produced by the electrolysis of water In electrolysis, an electric current breaks down the water into its two elements, the gases hydrogen and oxygen. Commercially, large amounts of hydrogen are a by-product of the manufacture of sodium hydroxide by the electrolysis of brine. But most commercial hydrogen is produced either by passing steam over hot coke or iron or by causing steam and natural gas to react in the presence of a catalyst (see Catalysis). Sodium and many other chemically active metals react directly with water and release hydrogen from the water even at room temperature. Less active metals, such as magnesium, will free hydrogen from steam Zinc and many other metals react better with acids than they react with water. These metals are used to displace hydrogen from solutions of acids in water. and on and on I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

No. I try to talk my friends out of smoking, but I don't beat the crap out of them when they smoke. Doesn't mean I don't see it as wrong, it just means that they're adults and can make their own decisions - even if I think their decisions are wrong. =============================================== WRONG. I've many friends preach to me about smoking. I WILL QUIT WHEN I AM READY. Leave me the fuck alone. And mostly born again no smokers. And I don't bother anybody w/ my smoke I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I actually chased down a rainbow once. It ended in the parking lot of a Gulf station, alas, no pot of gold. -------------------------------------------------------------- I chased one too one day. Right to the the apex. Disappeared right as I got to it. Was one of my best skydives. No Pot O Gold there either tho. Wish I had a camcorder on that one I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Yeah and I just saw the Saudis just up'd their donations to a whopping 10 mil. The US is footing most the bill and it's mostly muslums benefitting. W/ all the oil $$ I would think they'd help the most I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

"Cats and dogs living together..." I TAKE THAT AS A PERSONAL INSULT YOU STICKING YOUR TOUNGE OUT AT ME. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED. PS. AM I THE CAT OR THE DOG? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Damn. I finally agree w/ you on something I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Any one wanna bet? > Gov. Bush Arrives In Thailand To Witness Tsunami Damage POSTED: 10:59 pm EST January 2, 2005 UPDATED: 4:59 pm EST January 3, 2005 BANGKOK, Thailand -- Gov. Jeb Bush and U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell are now in Bangkok for the first leg of their trip to visit three Indian Ocean countries with heavy damage and loss of life from last week's tsunamis. After Thailand, Bush and Powell plan to visit Indonesia and Sri Lanka. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Essentially, he thumbed his nose at the US and world every day for years..----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the US doesn't do the same thing. What makes us so much better than the rest of the world? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Gov't Gave $1 Billion to Faith-Based Groups in 2003 Some Non-Religious Surprised to Find Themselves on List By LAURA MECKLER, AP WASHINGTON (Jan. 2) - The government gave more than $1 billion in 2003 to organizations it considers ''faith-based,'' with some going to programs where prayer and spiritual guidance are central and some to organizations that do not consider themselves religious at all. AP Visitors to TMM Family Services in Tucson, Ariz., which received $25,000 for housing counseling, are greeted by a photo of Jesus and quotes from the Bible. Many of these groups have entirely secular missions and some organizations were surprised to find their names on a list of faith-based groups provided to The Associated Press by the White House. ''Someone has obviously designated us a faith-based organization, but we don't recognize ourselves as that,'' said Stacey Denaux, executive director of Crisis Ministries, a homeless shelter and soup kitchen in Charleston, S.C. Talk About It · Post Messages Other grant recipients are religious, offering social service programs that the government may have deemed too religious to receive money before President Bush took office. Visitors to TMM Family Services in Tucson, Ariz., which received $25,000 for housing counseling, are greeted by a photo of Jesus and quotes from the Bible. ''We believe that people being connected to the faith of their choice is important to them having a productive life,'' said Don Strauch, an ordained minister and executive director of the group, which offers a variety of social services. ''Just because we take government money doesn't mean we back down on that philosophy.'' All told, faith-based organizations were awarded $1.17 billion in 2003. That is about 12 percent of the $14.5 billion spent on social programs that qualify for faith-based grants in five federal departments. White House officials expect the total to grow. The list of 2003 grant recipients provided to AP is the first detailed tally of the dollars behind this ''faith-based initiative.'' Elected with strong support of religious conservatives, Bush came to office promising to open government's checkbook to religious groups that provide social services. Often, Bush says, religious groups do a better job serving the poor. Civil libertarians fear the government will wind up paying for worship, eroding the constitutional separation between church and state. Jim Towey, who directs the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, said the Bush administration has been clear that ''government money is not to fund religious activities.'' ''This is a culture change in the way government provides social services,'' he said. ''There's always going to be a very delicate balance.'' In the past, government has refrained from giving money directly to religious groups, but has required that they set up independent, secular organizations to get taxpayer dollars. Bush tried to get Congress to change that. Congress refused, so he unilaterally put many of his changes into effect. To entice religious groups to apply for grants, the White House hosted several conferences explaining the relaxed rules and put out a book listing programs they might want to apply for. ''We feel much more at ease,'' said Louis Wonderly, past president of the Luther House Foundation of Southern Chester County, Pa. The group was awarded $10.3 million to build an apartment building for low-income older people. ''We won't have to say, 'Oh my goodness, is it terrible to have a cross hanging on a bulletin board?''' Wonderly said. It is unclear how much religion is too much religion when government money is involved. The courts have issued mixed rulings. The administration says a group getting federal money can sponsor worship and other religious activities as long as they are separated by time and location from activities paid by the government. In New Haven, Conn., Women in Search of Health Education and Spirituality got almost $500,000 to help AIDS patients who are just out of drug treatment. Each session begins with a daily affirmation, where each participant chooses something to read, religious or secular. The program's director, Patricia Lafayette, says a spiritual connection is emphasized. ''Generally, that's the key to recovery,'' she said. ''We pray anytime someone asks,'' added Joyce Poole, director of the AIDS Interfaith Network, which sponsors the program. ''Some clients walk in and say they need a prayer and a hug and we stop whatever we're doing for them.'' At the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., Life Connections got more than $50,000 to help inmates who are about to be freed and who volunteer to participate and pick one of six religious programs to follow. Activities include a two-week spiritual retreat and six weeks of intense religious study. The White House declined comment on whether these particular programs were appropriate. The grants on the White House list were not specifically targeted to religious organizations. Rather, the list includes all groups believed to be faith-based that won competitive federal grants open to all applicants. Specifically, it includes recipients of competitive grants administered by five federal departments: Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Education, Labor and Justice. Not included are the billions sent to the states for distribution. An AP analysis of the $1.17 billion and nearly 150 interviews in 30 states with grant recipients found: -Many are well-established, large social service providers that have received federal money for decades. More than 80 percent of recipients at HHS had received federal money before. At HUD, the figure was 93 percent. -Two programs account for half of the $1.17 billion total: A HUD program known as Section 202 that builds housing for low-income poor people, and Head Start, a large preschool program for poor children. Both of them are dominated by longtime grant recipients that able to handle large amounts of money - not the small church groups sometimes evoked by the White House. -Many organizations insist they do not belong on a list of ''faith-based organizations,'' even though they may have religious roots. Some have no connection at all to religion, such as You Gotta Believe!, a Brooklyn, N.Y.-based group that finds permanent homes for teenagers in foster care. The name is not intended to invoke a belief in God, but the belief that there is a home somewhere for every child. White House officials said the list included groups which had identified themselves as faith-based and groups which officials thought religious based on their names. ''We intentionally avoid references to God and his works in our educational material so that no one will feel intimidated or avoid our services because they're of a different religion,'' said Sue Ortiz, a home ownership counselor at Inner City Christian Federation in Grand Rapids, Mich., which got $65,000 in 2003 and $150,000 in 2004. But religion inspires their work, she said: ''We do what we do because of God's love.'' AP-NY-01-02-05 1754EST Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

you know what taxes are in Ca.? That's just a start I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

tell me what you think is a living wage?=====================================I make 32 an hr an can barely survive. I feel for the really poor people out there. I sure ain't able to buy a new house or car w/o signing my life away. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Let 'em do their job. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Like Philly, Ruby Ridge and Waco? I talked many a senior officer and they say the training they (recruits) are getting is, borders on paranoia. They don't think much off it either. I've been standing around minding my own business waiting for my ride or whatever and been thrown up against a wall and searched w/o permission a few times and I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT. Gonna be a real police state (country) before long. THE good old USA. wooda thunk I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050102004209990004&_mpc=news%2e6&cid=842 Updated: 02:54 PM EST U.S. Considering Lifetime Terror-Suspect Detentions Newspaper Report Cites Defense, Intelligence WASHINGTON (Jan. 2) - A reported U.S. plan to keep some suspected terrorists imprisoned for a lifetime even if the government lacks evidence to charge them in courts was swiftly condemned on Sunday as a "bad idea" by a leading Republican senator. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Guess it's just me . I read EVERYTHING that comes my way. Sorry if I offended you Mr. Rich I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Un-fortunately, these things happen. Cops are human too. It's sad but, we just can't let that over-shadow the great numbers of really good and dedicated cops out there.======================================What's that, about the 1% that aren't power and control freaks? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050101131709990003&_mpc=news%2e6&cid=842 I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yippie..more paperwork What is an A-line? ROFL I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

why can't Dad get a job at McD's until something better comes along. Beats unemployment, right------------------------------------------------------------------ My enemployment is 410 a week. Yeah right Edit to add. I read that wrong. If I had NO unemployment I would do whatever it took to put food on the table I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

My bud does Lake Perris and Catalina Island most every W/E. He's a Certified SCUBA instructor > PM me. For some reason I can't send PM's or open attachementsm or FUCKIN DELTE bad spelling or DELETE ANYTHING. GODDAMNIT I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Clarke to defend Saddam Wednesday 29 December 2004, 20:36 Makka Time, 17:36 GMT Ramsey Clark said Washington should also be put on trial Former US attorney-general Ramsey Clark is to join Saddam Hussein's defence team, a spokesman for the ousted Iraqi president's lawyers says. Edit to add: there are decent lawyers out there but Me thinks they are the minority Ziad Khasawna said on Wednesday that Clark, who held the office of attorney-general under US president Lyndon Johnson, had "honoured and inspired" the legal team by agreeing to help defend Saddam. The former top US justice official, who arrived on Tuesday in Jordan where the defence team is based, has become known as a left-wing lawyer and firm critic of US foreign policy since leaving office. He visited Saddam in Baghdad in February 2003 just before the US-lead invasion and has also been involved with the defence of former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic, on trial for war crimes at a UN court in The Hague. Clark comment Clark said in the Jordanian capital Amman that his principle concern was protecting the former president's rights, who only saw a lawyer for the first time this month - a year after his capture. "In international law, anyone accused of crime has the right to be tried by a confident, independent and impartial court, and there can be no fair trail without those qualities," he said. "The special court in Iraq was created by the Iraqi governing council, which is nothing more than a creation of the US military occupation and has no authority in law as a criminal court," he said. The Iraq Special Tribunal was established by the US-led administration in Iraq last December to try members of the former government. Clark also said the US itself must be tried for the November assault on Falluja, destruction of houses, torture in prisons and its role in the deaths of thousands of Iraqis in the war. FUCKIN LAWYERS. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

A few more http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/international/earthquake/tsunami122604.aspx?source=AOL&cmpgn=CRSwhat I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I, along with my family, always donate cash through a non-profit organization that my family helps to run because we know where our money will go. However, due to Phillykev's act of selflessness and generosity, I have also donated a little tiny bit to the Red Cross for him to match. We should all want for him to meet his goal. Edited: Akarunway, your concerns may be valid for you, but maybe we should just think positive thoughts on this and let it go. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I'm gonna help somehow. I guess I'm just getting cynical in my old age. Like someone else said "more Bang for the Buck" is more to my liking. If I could I'd go help PERSONALLY in a heartbeat I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

http://www.ca.lp.org/archive/lpcm/200112-Elder.html Think twice about who you give your money to. I've tried to be a nice guy but I've had some bad dealings w/ the red cross as so have some of my relatives. They were charging the soldiers for cigs in WWII that were donated or so I'm told. I tried to donate my time, labor and tools in the Fla. tornados a few years back and was threatened w/ jail if I tried to gouge. I was just being a nice guy and I understand some people do that but I have a bad taste in my mouth for the Red Cross I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I through V you probably learned as "This little piggy..", and VI through X are on the other foot, when extracted. -------------------------------------------------------------------ROFL I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.