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Right - structural engineering should be taught by high school dropouts. Our bridges and airplanes would be much safer. I have to say on that one me thinks engineers need 5 yrs in the FIELD (of their choice) before they ENGINEER> I spend half my time fixing all their fuckups. Last job I was on (a big one) I had to ask 10 fuckin engineers a simple question to get an answer. "1/8 inch per foot = how many degrees?" Took 10 engineers 1/2 hour to give me an answer. I wanted to wrestle their computers out from in front of them. Jeesh They really are incompetent, it only takes a calculator, and to have paid attention during high school trigonometry. I doubt that 5 years in the field would have corrected their deficiency. The answer is arctan (.125/12)=0.597 deg, and even if the 12 inches is along the angle instead of along the horizontal, it would then be arcsin (.125/12)=.597 deg. The answer is only different if you go out to 4 places, because the tangent and sin of an angle are nearly the same at such small angles. . Yeah yeah yeah. I didn't have my caculator at the time. The answer BECHTEL engineers gave me was more along the lines of .11'. And the cheap degree finder (they supplied)couldn't register somthing that infinitesimal. By the way. Did you know they work w/ Halliburton? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Yeah. Like all the body/truck armor they DIDN'T have when first deployed I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Right - structural engineering should be taught by high school dropouts. Our bridges and airplanes would be much safer. I have to say on that one me thinks engineers need 5 yrs in the FIELD (of their choice) before they ENGINEER> I spend half my time fixing all their fuckups. Last job I was on (a big one) I had to ask 10 fuckin engineers a simple question to get an answer. "1/8 inch per foot = how many degrees?" Took 10 engineers 1/2 hour to give me an answer. I wanted to wrestle their computers out from in front of them. Jeesh I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I just fancy a hot fudge sundae right now. LOL

In the UK and India (and I'm sure elsewhere) I thought 2,000MW was the standard for large power plants. Standard for the ones here is 500-1000 MW fired by natural gas. Not sure about other countries. We just started building and rehabbing a bunch of coal fired one too tho. Thanks Bush/CheneyEdit to add: 1000mw good for a million homes(in SoCal) I believe at a cost of close to a billion for construction I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I predict that long-term history will record him as the worst President since Ulysses Grant. Hey. At least he drank> "I never trust a fighting man who doesnt smoke or drink." William Halsey I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I knew YOU"D know. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

It's not about the oil, as it sits in the ground. The issue is the free flow of oil, in a free market. Our nation's standard of living depends greatly on that. If we wanted to flat out own the oil, we could. You are discounting the free market system that is well established in the upstream area. Not only do middle men make profit, everyone in the chain makes profit. They have to. Otherwise, they couldn't run their business and hope to feed their kids. Do you know how capital intensive the oil business is? Upstream costs are huge, as are downstream costs. Refining margins (downstream) are single digits, thanks in part to our Congress. Upstream processing takes a decade or more to bring a newly discovered field on line. So, how are you defining profits? It's not revenue. So, do you expect these people to give it away? You expect some Iraqi to walk out of the wood work and run a port facility so that it operates continuosly? As I pointed out to kallend, the other poster was a student according to his profile at the time I read it. The data presented by kallend have already been discounted elsewhere by financial instutions that know much more about the markets than I do. To throw random data around is just that, throwing random data around. I chose not to take that data seriously because it's already been debunked. IMF approves loan for Iraq; let the oil drilling begin By Joshua Frank Online Journal Contributing Writer Dec 28, 2005, 00:50 The International Monetary Fund (IMF) approved a $685 million loan for Iraq on December 24. Now the country's war torn economy will be fully integrated into the global economy -- indefinitely. The reconstruction of Iraq will soon be open to even more industrialized nations and interests. Iraq will not be sovereign or independent in the near future, even if President Bush says so. The country's financial future will instead be dictated by a new colossal economic occupation, complete with ground forces, tanks, foreign military bases and the like -- all thanks to the United States, Britain and the IMF. The new loans will soon be the focus of Iraq's future "economic stability." Of course, the desire to capitalize on war's misfortunes is at the heart of this occupation, as well as the IMF's gracious assistance. This is undoubtedly what the Bush administration and their allies have wished for all along. "This arrangement will underpin economic stability and help lay the foundation for an open and prosperous economy in Iraq," Treasury Secretary John Snow announced shortly after the loan was approved. Translation: Iraq will soon be open for business. Now the IMF will be able to dictate how best Iraq can pay back its ever-increasing debt, putting its recovery in the hands of others, while the US reaps the benefits. If it's to pump millions more barrels of oil every year, Iraq will be forced to do it. And, in fact, increased oil production is at the heart of the IMF's plan for Iraq. In a statement released last week by the IMF, the institution reported that Iraq's new government planned to allocate resources next year to expanding oil production as part of a broad economic scheme put forward by the IMF, with the hope of putting Iraq's economy on an upward trajectory. In other words, Iraq will be forced to start drilling for more oil. And of course democracy will never be truly attainable or even really wished for by the IMF and its wealthy investors. The country will just become another playing ground for imperial endeavors and capitalist greed. So much for independence, for no country is truly free and democratic when placed under the boot of the industrialized world. Markets consistently undermine democracy when motivated by self-interests, and Iraqi citizens are not likely to benefit in any real terms under the IMF's new loan package, which will be divvied out over the next 15 months. Don't believe for a minute that Iraq will be able to shake off globalism's ravenous greed anytime soon -- even if US troops are redeployed. Capitalism's tentacles are now fully attached to Babylon, as if they weren't already, and the oil will be flowing shortly. Even if US troops are redeployed, or god forbid, brought home, the occupation of Iraq will nonetheless continue. Imposing economic guidelines by the use of force may now be globalization's new motto. Iraqis have had no say in whether or not they wanted to be invaded, occupied, or forced to succumb to the IMF's every whim. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

OMG. That was too funny. Thanks for the laugh I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Hey, is this a great country or what?? w0000t!! Yes. For lawyers it seems> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- November 4, 2006 As Vote Nears, Parties Prepare for Legal Fights By IAN URBINA WASHINGTON, Nov. 3 — A team of lawyers for the Democratic Party has been arguing with postal officials in Columbus, Ohio, trying to persuade them to process thousands of absentee ballots that have arrived with insufficient postage. In Pennsylvania, the Republican Party has opened a “recount account” and set aside $500,000 to pay lawyers who will answer telephones on Election Day and monitor polls to see whether officials demand proper voters’ identification. In Maryland, lawyers representing candidates for senator and governor from both parties met recently and swapped cellphone numbers and e-mail addresses to smooth out the logistics of potential litigation. Several days from what Republican and Democratic campaign strategists expect to be a close election, the legal machinery of a messy fight is shifting into high gear. Democrats say they are most concerned that voters will be prevented from voting by long lines or poll workers’ demanding unnecessary forms of identification. Republicans say they are guarding against ineligible people trying to vote. The parties are sending their largest concentrations of lawyers to states with the tightest races like Maryland, Missouri, Ohio and Tennessee. Most of them are unpaid volunteers, though many from large firms are working pro bono to meet their firms’ expectation for hours of public service. On Saturday and Sunday, hundreds of the 7,000 lawyers who are working on the election for the Democratic National Committee will board planes for Arizona, Florida, Maryland, Missouri, Ohio and 13 other states. Their task is to reinforce local teams where party officials say they there is the greatest potential for long lines, voter intimidation or confusion at the polls and where they may need to file court petitions to keep polls open late. “We’re not going to make the mistake we did last time, which was to wait until after the election for litigation,” said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party. That party has spent $250,000 in legal fees on suits over new electronic voting machines and a voter identification law. The Republican National Committee is shipping out 150 lawyers on Monday to help hundreds of local lawyers in Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Tennessee and other states answering phones and working at polling stations policing against voter fraud. “What is unfortunate is that it appears Democrats are following their playbook from 2004 and alleging voter suppression where it does not exist, in an effort to launch a pre-emptive strike,” said Tracey Schmitt, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee. It is not just parties gearing up. In its largest mobilization ever for a non-presidential election, the Justice Department will dispatch about 800 lawyers to potentially troubled polling locations in 65 cities in 20 states to ensure voting rights laws are obeyed. The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the N.A.A.C.P. and the People for the American Way Foundation will jointly have 2,000 lawyers fanning out across 20 states. Though unwilling to provide numbers, the executive director of the Republican National Lawyers Association, Michael B. Thielen, said his organization had received many requests for extra lawyers to be sent to Missouri and Pennsylvania. Aside from new voter identification laws, new voter registration databases and so many close races, the rollout of electronic voting equipment provides an unusually high potential for suits during and after the election. Lawyers have complained about electronic machines in Texas and Virginia that are cutting off some candidates’ last names on a summary page. Florida, South Carolina and Texas, have had reports of electronic machines showing the wrong name when a voter presses a button for a candidate. In Colorado, a federal judge deemed the new touch-screen machines insecure and unreliable and ruled that they not be used again, raising the likelihood that lawyers will contest the legitimacy of the results on Tuesday. “Both sides are lawyering up,” said Doug Chapin, director of the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project. “Election night is not necessarily the finish line anymore.” Election litigation has grown since 2000, reaching 361 suits in 2004, up from 108 in 1996, according to Richard L. Hasen, a professor at the Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. The Hotline, a political newsletter, noted the trend, commenting, “We’re waiting for the day that pols can cut out the middleman and settle all elections in court.” Nathaniel Persily, a professor of election law at the University of Pennsylvania, said Democrats were responding to the election problems of 2000, when they felt outmatched by Republican lawyers in Florida. Lawyers and voting experts say they are especially watching the states with new voter identification laws, where they expect the laws to cause confusion and possible contention. Some of the new laws, in Arizona, Georgia, Indiana and Missouri, are being litigated. Voting rights groups in those states say they intend to interview people turned away because of a lack of proper identification. In St. Louis, a lawyer directing the Democrats’ legal efforts, Shonagh Clements, said she was prodding officials to obtain credentials for 300 lawyers, many of whom she plans to train on Sunday to work as poll challengers. “We’re doing a lot of sprinting just to get through the weekend,” Ms. Clements said. In Maryland, the pace is similarly frenetic. This week, Democratic lawyers have been combing through a Republican manual for poll workers acquired by a Democratic operative that gives instructions on aggressively challenging voters’ credentials. Aside from looking for illegalities in the document, Democrats have been writing a manual to counter the Republican booklet, instructing their poll workers how to watch for overzealous Republican poll watchers. Officials from both parties say Maryland is ripe for litigation and voting problems because the governor has voiced skepticism about the dependability of electronic voting machines. As a result, a record number of voters have filed absentee ballots. Experts say those are more susceptible to fraud and demands for recounts. “Unfortunately, the Maryland Democratic Party wants to have this election decided in the courts, with their 400 roving attorneys,” said Audra Miller, spokeswoman for the Republican Party. Ms. Miller, without providing numbers, said her party planned to mobilize its largest fleet of election lawyers. Many states with the new voter identification laws encourage poll workers to have voters without proper identification use provisional ballots. More than 30 states do not count provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct. Demos, a nonpartisan organization that studies election issues, calls ballots that election officials allow to be cast but have no intention of counting placebo ballots. The group predicts that in close elections the rules for counting provisional ballots could lead to legal cases. A elections expert with the Century Foundation, Tova Wang, said lawyers of all stripes were trying to figure out how to handle the high- and low-tech problems that are difficult to document like lost computer data or backups at polling stations. “How do you litigate a long line?” Ms. Wang asked. “For people who can’t afford to wait for hours, long lines essentially take away their right to vote. But litigating it is nearly impossible.” Mary Ellen Gurewitz, a lawyer in Detroit for the Michigan Democratic Party, which is dispatching 800 lawyers statewide, said she hoped to catch the problem in advance. “Many more votes are lost from incompetent election administration than voter suppression,” Ms. Gurewitz said. “So we’re going to minority neighborhoods in Detroit, Lansing and Flint, because that’s where we know the Republican challengers will try to contest voters’ qualifications.” Her lawyers, Ms. Gurewitz added, will be trained to encourage poll workers to set up the polling places to reduce problems like lines for voters that are divided by precinct rather than all voters gathering in a single long line. Lawyers for the Michigan Republican Party have been photocopying fill-in-the-blank boilerplate forms if they have to go to court on Tuesday to challenge interpretations of election laws. Fifty of the party’s 200 volunteer lawyers will staff a phone bank at party headquarters in Lansing to take complaints before calling the teams of 10 to 15 lawyers to respond from one of 10 regional centers. Sean D. Hamill contributed reporting from Pittsburgh. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruderer break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber on (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat Oh yea, they wouldn't even think of charging you. How did he sneak in? I would want to create a set of locks so that someone would have to make a lot of noise to get in. 6 months? Fuck that. I guess they could only get him for tresspassing since he hadn;t stolen anything yet, right? LOL. He didn't sneak in. He forced his way in. He found out I was fuckin his ex. Now my ex. LOL And I only owe her 25K and I'm done LOL. And I thought the first wife was a bitch. Live and learn I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruder break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber one (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat. Edit to add: the sorry ass dog would lick you to death I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Do you have a clue what 1000KW takes or supplies? Not much is the answer. People are gonna be crying next yr. The problem right now lies in the future energy sales (long term contracts). Everybody's paranoid because of ENRON type bullshit me thinks. I've been waiting for the Morro Bay job for yrs. Tom ain't gonna like that tho I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Good call. I'd be willing to bet money on that one. What's the line? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

How about "Ignorance is Bliss; Incompetence is my Excuse"?

"But I suppose when you know you're going to lose, you try whatever you can."

What a fuckin joke since ARNOLD took office>http://www.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/all_projects.html I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

The right is conspicuous by its absence from this thread. Among others I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Mainly more loss of privacy in the name of keeping me safe. Good enough? I could go on. I think the name HALLIBURTON should speak for itself on the second note First of all, I didn't see anything in the referenced news story that would relate to your personal privacy. Second, you're complaining about Halliburton getting a contract, which is also not in evidence in the story. So it seems that you just like to complain, without really having any facts about the subject for which you speak. Maybe you should quit trying to post so many anti-Bush messages every day, and instead concentrate on doing more critical thinking about what you read. Hey. I don't have the GOP money so I have to do my own negative campaign ads. (like they'll change anybodys mind). And I read ALOT. And I've worked for corps. like Halliburton my whole life (well, only 30 yrs of it) UNFORTUNATLY I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Yeah, I bet the Iraqi's really cared about the US election. (In case you didn't know, the US really had almost nothing to do with the trial .) But I do love that the anouncment on news managed to turn anti Bush in less than 3 posts. AND in less than 5 someone compared Saddam to Bush.....NICE!!!! LMAO. Like their govt. is not our CURRENT puppet. How naive my friend I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Of course not since if you bothered to READ the article. "Currently, the information is written on paper and transferred to computer so reports can be compiled and sent to the state and federal governments, which reimburse school districts for the subsidized lunches served." But you didn't seem to get upset when they WERE ALREADY DOING IT BY PAPER!!!! Or how other districts were DOING IT ALREADY by 6 digit code!! So, either you hate that the information is recorded..Which it does need to be recorded so people get paid. Or you hate the fact that it is done by finger print? How do you feel about the 6 digit code and all the information that it has stored? Like it or not Biometrics are used more and more. One store I shop at has a finger print machine for transactions. Pilots have biometric checkins at airports. So what really gets you pissed about this? The biometrics, or the recording of information (which was already being done)? The recording of information and the fact that the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer(at the expense of the latter). How bout that? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Bet the rich kids don't get fingerprinted http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2629169&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

So, which part of the fun really pissed you off? I simply remember it as an experience in life, that every naive, coddled teenager should experience. They did in nine short[ or, long] weeks, what life at its natural pace would take years, if ever, to do. All they did was/is make me a meaner asshole/bastard than I was/am I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

We'll see come tues. Can't wait. Tired of changing the channel to get away from negative political ad campaigns I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.