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I agree with you in principle but they're kids. Give em the candy. www.FourWheelerHB.com

I find it amazing you think people ought to be so polarized. I find it even more amazing you think government is incapable of abuse of power yet lies continuously. www.FourWheelerHB.com

Actually I'm not criticising Obama's patience at all. I have confidence he will not allow it to get in the way of McChrystal's proposed timeline. If not then I'd have something else to complain about regarding Obama. He does have some folks inside the White House which believe the recommendations are just McChrystal's opinion and that does concern me. Also I'm not disputing the dire situation in Afghanistan is Bush's fault. However with McChrystal's recommendations, the ball is now officially in Obama's court in my mind. Any failures/successes after that point are Obama's. www.FourWheelerHB.com

You believe that without question and that in no way could it be a cover story so they could continue to track somebody of more importance? I just want to understand that you believe everything the government tells you? When a Sheriff says balloon boy's dad isn't under suspicion, he's telling the truth and not using that to further some other goal? Do you think government is above reproach? This case seems pretty cut and dry. MI5 nor MI6 weren't involved here. They performed covert surveillance on Ms. Paton for two weeks and then tipped their hand. www.FourWheelerHB.com

I don't think you did. This was a case of deliberate "abuse" (abuse in quotes because the act was considered within their power) by local government. Why didn't anyone just think to ask her why her aplication looked fishy? Reminds me of a commercial. "Why didn't you just mail it?" "We have a hover craft." www.FourWheelerHB.com

Well, since he's telling the truth, I don't see the problem. What's your opinion? When can Obama take full responsibility for success and/or failure in Afghanistan? Since the day President Obama received General McChrystal's recommendations. "It's been more than two months since the recommendation went to the president. And Gen. McChrystal is talking about a 12-month time frame," Kyl said. "So clearly time is of the essence here." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/26/obama-says-rush-decision-afghanistan-strategy-troop-levels/ www.FourWheelerHB.com

This quote was an answer from a citizen put on the air. How soon we forget yes indeed. Concur. I looked at the link in your original post – genuinely interesting cross-cut of responses, "Tito from Hollywood" particularly, imo. Would you point me to some specific statements made by Pres Obama that you see as "blaming" Pres Bush? I guess I’m trying to figure out what is “blame” versus what is recognition of strategic choices or inadequate resourcing decisions? How do you differentiate “blame” from the latter? /Marg http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSISL12983720090831 It was Gibbs. www.FourWheelerHB.com

Fuck that IS boring! You poor bastage! [/laugh] www.FourWheelerHB.com

I can't believe you remember my call sign after all this time. Embarrasingly I've forgotten yours. I'm blaming my lack of memory on Obama. I'd take the $14. www.FourWheelerHB.com

Andy908 is one of the most level headed and reasonable members of dz.com in my opinion. www.FourWheelerHB.com

And there's the catch. If he fails then he can blame Bush and say it was irrepairable. If he succeeds then he can take the credit. www.FourWheelerHB.com

The blame game is inane!

So in four years when the war in Afghanistan is still viewed as a failure it would be appropriate for Obama to blame Bush? www.FourWheelerHB.com

To be clear... this is about Obama blaming Bush for Afhganistan. Not you or me or anyone else. Obama. www.FourWheelerHB.com

One thing you don't want to do is go flying off the handle. I get that you're pissed but reacting with anger can make the relationship between yourself and your roommate worse. And if anyone can make your life a living nightmare it's your roommate. www.FourWheelerHB.com

There are 249 post and counting in that blog. Here are a few more: Michael from Alexandria, Virginia writes: When we stabilize Afghanistan (finish cleaning up that mess) and pass a tax bill which deals with the mounting deficits caused, in large part, by the Bush tax cuts, the unfunded expansion of Medicare and the expansion of the military. That will be a long time, Jack. Steve from Los Angeles Oh, I think we'll all be blaming the Bush administration for the damage it's done for the next fifty years. Maryann It was under the Bush administration that the country went to hell. Bush initiated two wars, one which was unnecessary. The economy went in the toilet, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Bush laid the plans for the problems Obama is trying to resolve. Why shouldn't he blame Bush? Matthew from Orange,CA When do you stop blaming a black eye for your inability to see? When the swelling goes down, and its going to take more than nine months for the soreness we feel from the last eight years to go away. The reason I included Susan's post was because she has apparently forgotten why we are in Afghanistan. That bothers me. Things may not be going well for us in Afghanistan at the moment but I will never forget why we are there. www.FourWheelerHB.com

Please point out where I have blamed Obama for anything. www.FourWheelerHB.com

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/10/holocaust-museum-shooting_n_213831.html The [Holocaust Museum] attack was the third in a recent wave of unsettling shootings that appeared to have political or ethnic underpinnings. A 23-year-old Army private, William Andrew Long, was shot and killed outside a recruiting office this month in Arkansas and a fellow soldier was wounded. The suspect, a Muslim convert, has said he considers the killing justified because of the U.S. military presence in the Middle East. Late last month, abortion provider Dr. George Tiller was shot to death in his church. Johns, the security guard killed Wednesday, was black. www.FourWheelerHB.com

Did you two read the blog? It's about what is going on in Afghanistan. www.FourWheelerHB.com

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/20/when-should-pres-obama-stop-blaming-the-bush-administration/ There is only so far you can go with blaming your predecessor before you're thought of as equally incompetent. This quote was an answer from a citizen put on the air. How soon we forget yes indeed. www.FourWheelerHB.com

it was on the front page on May 20th! It doesn't matter either way. The "not real news" carried a story the "real news" didn't. www.FourWheelerHB.com

From the Web page: "Valid Veteran and Active Duty Identification to Obtain Free Entree: U.S. Uniform Services Identification Card U.S. Uniform Services Retired Identification Card Current Leave and Earnings Statement (LES) Veterans Organization Card (i.e., American Legion and VFW) Photograph in uniform Wearing uniform" I was surprised that a DD214 isn't listed. That is surprising. I have one pic of me in uniform but it's from a distance. Would probably work. Will bring a copy of my dd214 and dog tags just in case. www.FourWheelerHB.com

dont you dare get this moved to SC! www.FourWheelerHB.com

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30838320/. Why yes. Yes I can. edited to add the below link just in case you specifically wanted a fox news link. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520824,00.html www.FourWheelerHB.com

Think they'll except dog tags? www.FourWheelerHB.com