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Dear Sarge... If you are anywhere near San Diego, I invite you to see this for real. As I watched you barrel roll mpg, I noticed this is very similar to a saddle turn incorporated with a toggle turn. San Diego has a camera man (nick named toggle dave) who flies a Stiletto 120 with a wing loading over 1.5 and lands consistently this way every time with accuracy. Mind you he has been landing on that same spot for the last three years so he should be on target. But that technique is the exact maneuver. I have seen him come a little close at times and he loves the attention. Toggle turn with saddle input. Throws you right over with high wing loading. We all just watch... "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

I contacted them via email after I saw an article about them in Skydiving. Jo promptly replied and told me they would be more than happy to send me a Vigil at their price of around 6oo euro's. There is a web sight which you can go to and fill out a request for the Vigil since we do not have any distruibuters in the US. Here is the email they sent me... Dear Skydiver, We finally start shipping the Vigil. Thank you for your patience. This really is the dawn of a new era for AADs. We will ship the units as fast as we can on a "First ordered, first served" base. The first batch of Vigils will be shipped first week of August and the next batch will be shipped by 25 August. To speed up things we need from you the following information: a. Exact name and delivery address b. Visa or MasterCard number c. Name of cardholder d. Expire date e. (for companies only) VAT/TVA/MwSt number for EU-based companies We will only charge your card for the amount of 629 Euros + regular UPS shipping (and 21% VAT sales tax, inside the EU) as soon as we will ship the Vigil to you. Please keep in mind that if we don't hear from you we will consider that you're no longer interested in the Vigil and we'll ship the unit to someone else... Thanks again for your confidence and Blue Skies, Jo Smolders, AAD nv/sa Boulevard A. Reyers 193 B-1030 Brussels Belgium Mail: info@vigil.aero Fax: +32(0)2-736 06 27 [url]http://www.vigil.aero/home.html "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

We ( us down here in southern California) have this little thing we do being saftey conscience and what not, where we incorperate a barrel roll in order to check our air space beforer we pitch. I am sure it has been thought of way before my time but in saying I think it would be good technique to practice and I am rather surprised it's not included in the Licence for the UK... Shocker!!! "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

Just curious... Why didn't you transition back to your head and rejoin the group in the accordion. Seems that from the story you were quick enough to realize the instability during your flight down the tube that you transitioned to sit to stay with the group but then it seemed as if you peeled from the group??? I have had similar problems in big ways on my head and I must say there isn't anything that a two way can't teach you. I would have to agree with the little green character from Elsinore...

Yeah, last time I checked Hoser had a gripper suit... And yet still longs to fly on his head... Tell your free fly partner no more roller skates on the plane... "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

You can also try sweeping your arms back inorder help with the pelvic thrust action to drive forward... Mind you now I am talking about sit flying not sex... I very qualified free flyer once said "sit flying is easy to learn, but hard to master while head down is hard to learn yet easy to master" ... As for the leg spreading it helps with slowing your fall rate... "In the quite words of the Virgin Mary, Come again" "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

If you can't fly head down, fly feet up... "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

Middle finger extended with arm extended as well... Implemented by Mike Ortiz... your toggle's out, and it looks like your going to have some fun when you pitch... "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"

I am on the verge of getting my second container; I have narrowed down my search to the G3/G4 and Sandy's Voodoo. I am also plan on cramming a 149 crossfire2 (pack vol. 333) into a V2 (pack vol. M 350). Has anyone had any major complaints regarding the two containers? "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over"