Ron

And the point I'm trying to make is this: If you want to be treated EQUALLY...Then expect to not be treated SPECIALLY. And when things don't go your way accept it, don't use being black as an excuse for poor performance or skirting the LAW. If you really want to be treated as an equal and live the dream of being judged based on your merits....Then you would see that these organizations, and the idiots that use being black as excuse do nothing but hurt your goal. The Rodney King beating was wrong...But so were the riots. how about these riots : The cop acted really stupid by moving to the front of the car, but the tinted windows made it the only choice since they would not roll down the windows. So two kids were speeding, with illegal tint. They refuse to comply with police requests to open the doors, or roll down the windows. They refused to comply with police demands to stop moving towards the officer. The officer fired (and was justified in doing so). So people went out and did 5 MILLION in damage. Who was wrong in this case? What the hell did the photographer do to deserve that? what about this: So some jackass runs from the cops and gets killed...So then all hell breaks loose since he was black. Uh he was running from the police and killed himself. If these were white people that did stupid things...I really doubt there would be riots over it. You want to be treated equal? Accept it when it does not go your way. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Some say the KKK is still neccessary. Do you want to be equal, or do you want special treatment? Cause wanting special treatment does not make you equal. Black Colleges, Black Civic Groups, Black political parties...Basicly everything that is Black only, is racist and is wrong. Employment quotas, and using "racism" to win an argument is not about being equal...It's about Blacks being racist against Whites. How about blacks being racist against whites? And yes, I have been treated poorly for being white. Once in Compton I was told "Get your stupid white muther fucking ass out of here before I kill you muther fucker!!!" In high school I had three black guys jump me...When they were caught...easy to do since I was pounding on one of them till the teachers pulled me off. When he was asked why they jumped me..."Cause he was small and white" was the answer. What they didn't know of was the Black Belt I had. How about this one....A managers position wa open...3 white males put in for it and one black female. The black female was WAY underqualified, and honestly quite stupid. She got the job, and we all knew she would. When we asked why she got the job since it was clear that she was not qualified... The answer we were given was "Quaota's, and that a Black Female was needed to meet them". Now, was it fair to hire the less qualified canidate casue she was female and black? Again do you want EQUAL, or SPECIAL treatment? The dream that one day people will be judged by the content of their character, and not by the color of their skin is great...but I have seem many cases where instead of equal, blacks want special. I have even been told "Well we were oppressed for so long its our right" So its OK for you to be racist and hold us accountable for things that happend before most of us were born? That does not sound like fair and equal to me. The only way to be fair and equal is to really judge people on them, not on color....But it seems like many blacks don't want that annd that they like using the race card. This Zhills issue is a perfect example... What the City did was ILLEGAL. When it was brought to the attention of all the parties, the first words out of the black mouths was "RACIST"...Not.."Oh, I didnt know that". So it seems to me that the new racism is black on white. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Careful what you ask for. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No I think she understands that quite well. What she is pointing out is that its OK for there to be a Black History Mth, a Black College, Black Civic Groups, Black Political Groups....But if you tried to have a White history mth, An all white College, an all white civic or political group...Then the whites are racist... But its OK for blacks to do it. I have always found that funny also. Blacks want equal rights by forcing affermative action plans and forming all black groups... Thats not equal. Thats racisim. Black people fought to be allowed to go to school with whites and end "Seperate but equal"...Then why do Black Colleges still exist? As for the Zhills mess up....Well some folks that didn't live in the city asked to change something...no problem there. It's a persons right to suggest things. And Irene Dobson is a good women that has done very good things for the Otis May area of Zhills. The City really screwed up by renaming the street without checking to see if it was legal, or wanted by the majority of the residents. When the City tried to fix that problem the "Race card" was thrown out. Now, Im not so stupid as to tell you that some of the hubbub was not racist...But not ALL of it. For example my take on it was that it was illegal, and the MAJORITY voted on it.... I would not have cared if this issue was naming the street MLK or JFK, or after Dr Suess or Mr Spock. It seems that still even today if a black person, group, or idea is not just accepted then it suddenly becomes a "Race" issue.....Why can't it just be cause it was a bad idea, or in this case illegal? I judge people not by color but by actions and deeds.....And I hate cry babies of all color. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

One of my favorite books. I loved the movie (and have it on video)... I hope Burton does not screw it up. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I thought she was Korean???? I know she is 25. Happy bday. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

True....I could be better at math. But I am doing fine,not living on the government tit. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No you don't. Every generation thinks the next is worthless....And every generation they prove otherwise. First you say this: Then you say this: You proved yourself wrong IN THE SAME POST!!!!!! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Have YOU seen his work? His rather creative editing of Hestons NRA speaches takes his work right out of "Documentry" into "LA-LA" land. As for people using dictonary terms.... How the hell could you have a problem with that? Unless it makes your point look stupid. MM has the right to do whatever he wants...If he makes money doing it great...He wants to call it Art...great. But that does not mean its worth shit, or true. Most of his work is tripe. He tries to pass it off as a documentry when it is not. However the foolish will think it is true, and just like you defend it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Depends....Some I have asked for, others were offored. I don't wear/jump any product I would not buy. Yes. Twice. Once I didn't like the product, and once I liked the product but didn't like the way the company sold them. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It was not marketed as a documentary. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Did she get a high school education? Does she have two arms and legs? Anything that is keeping her from joining the Military? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Options are told to them in school...Militray recruiters are always talking about opportunity. Movies are made about it. Book sare written about it. Magazines make money off of it. I challenge you to find ONE person in the US in High School that does not know about the Military being an option for money for school. Point Break, Dropzone, Cutaway have all been on TV. Skydiving has been on cartoons (Simpsons, King of the Hill) been on sitcoms (Full House, Fresh Prince). In the news (Bush making his AFF jump was on the front page of MANY newspapers). In many movies (XXX, Point Break, Cutaway, Dropzone, Bond flicks, ect...) I bet that most high school kids know that there is an activity called skydiving....My 100 year old Great Grandmother knew about it before I started jumping. I bet even more know that the Military has college money to give out. I bet even more know that an education is needed to make a good life...Some just don't care. Abe Lincon grew up in a cabin in the woods....Bollicks. With Cable TV, the internet, schools, movies...ect people know...some may not CARE, and that is Laziness. Something we got off of our butts and chose to do...Some work two jobs to be able to jump...Others packed on the DZ..Some are kids of DZO's, but MOST worked to get here. Library's have computers. A person can learn anything if they WANT it. Well, last time I checked newspapers are very cheap and free at the Library...News casts are on every day on TV. Like you said its INTEREST....If they don't care enough to pay attention, thats them being lazy, and thats not my fault..... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well that a lot more accurate than it just "came out of nowhere"...It also shows that you have control over the situation. If it just poped up, you could do nothing. If it was there all along then you flew into it... Not a bad idea. Even if he is the leader, you are still responsable to be safe and legal...And the FAR's say you have to stay 2,000 feet away from a cloud (Below 10,000 feet). "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I looked into doing "Road Rules:...But I was to old. I think it would be great to have a new challenge every week. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The movie "The Green Berets" was not filmed like it was a documentary. The movie "The Green Berets" did not edit a speech by an opposing side to make it sound evil. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

What it just "poofed" into the sky? you just answered you own question. Again a great observation. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No problem shipping it FedEx. I have done it tons. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

During this time did she get a high school diploma? So she had the opportunity to get the SAME education in high school as everyone else in public schools. Including ME. Is she physically fit? Is she stupid? Any reason she can't join the military? The Job corps? Does MacDonalds not want to hire her...Is it impossible for her to go to community college? Why can't she: Join the Military? Go get a job and go to school? As for no family to fall back on...Well my parents kicked me out at 19....Yeah I had one year on her. Tell her to go join the Airforce....She will have money, a place to live AND she can get money for school. There are opportunities...some just don't WANT to take them. Every time I hear some sob story about an able boddied person out of work lamenting their situation....I call bullshit. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sorry, I thought it was you little rant at the end. Then they guy who wrote it...Well, he showed his ass. Before a guy writes some anti Bush thing...One would think he checked who wrote the legislation he claims is anti Republican. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

For Freefly you can check out Pip, Colon, Martin...ect. http://www.totalbodypilot.com/ For RW you have a good list already. As for me, If I am not training/competing/coaching 4way, I charge only lift and pack jobs... Oh, and some diet cokes. If you want to tip thats cool, but I like to teach. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Cosponsor Total: 1 (last sponsor added ) 1 Democrats About This Legislation Uh both of these are DEMOCRATIC pushes. And BTW Kerry wants them as well. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Some of the people we are talking about ARE lazy. And I don't feel I should care if a lazy person is not happy. Read up on old Abe Lincon who used a shovel and coal to lean to write , Einstien who when he was 26 and working full time in a pattent office came up with THREE world changing ideas...Most will not ever even come close to ONE, much less THREE in ONE year WHILE WORKING FULL TIME. Edison who worked full time as a telagrapher before he started his own buisness. If you want it bad enough you can do it. #1. This is speculation on your part...That alone makes it worthless. #2. Then this guy can make his childrens lives better. An old poem called "The Bridge Builder" a young man works hard to build a bridge. By the time he finishes the bridge, he is an old man. A young guy askes him why he just didn't swim across when he was a young man. He said that he spent his life to build a bridge, not for the old man, but for him the young man. I don't mind helping others, but I'll be dammed if you want me to HAVE to help some lazy fucks. I have to do it now, but I'll limit it every chance I can. You will not be doing as well as the smarter guy with a medical degree, but do YOU want a moron performing surgery on you? what is so bad with letting people get what they can earn? You want to just had people who are not qualified good jobs so they can fail? Like I said I don't want a Moron teaching students, designing saftey features, or performing surgery...Maybe you do. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

This women you like to bring up... Was she ignorant, lazy or stupid? I am betting at least one. Lazy can be fixed, ignorant can be fixed. And as for stupid..MacDonalds is always hiring. But I prefer to think that most are not stupid. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Study harder so they will not stay stupid. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334