Ron

[chicken little]The sky is falling.[/chicken little] Do you know the requirements? from your own source My DL has all three....I bet most do. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you have never been charged with a DUI then it is an invasion of privacy. If you have had a DUI...I have no problem with it if it was court ordered...And in fact I think some states already require it for repeat DUI's. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Living in FL that would suck.....I did not know this, and will most likely rule out a hybrid for me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

never anyones business: 5 : 17: 3 5 hand glider flights at Jocky's Ridge. 17 team jumps in Zhills 3 hours tunnel Orlando "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Aerial was a canopy made by Glide Path about 12(?) years ago. They stopped production when the company went tits up and reopened as Flight Concepts. It was an OK canopy, some people complained that it did not have a ton of flair....But then again this was several years ago and any new canopy will be tons better. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Uncool. I hope people treat you better than you treat them. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ignore the legs for a second. Lets say you are flying the mantis. Your arms will be like this ( /\ ) OK they will actually be at 45 degrees relative to the ground, but you get the idea. If you are turning left you can leave your left arm where it is and move the right lifting the elbow up while moving the hand down so that the center of rotation on your arm is in the middle of your forearm. You then get this ( // ). If both your left arm and right arm are both at 45 degrees like that, it is the most input you can put in...(well there is chest as well but we are just talking arms.) Anything less than 45 degrees and you are not spilling the most amount of air...Anything more than 45 degrees and you are spilling too much air. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Or he is just not explaining it well enough....Do you use your knees to turn? If so, what are you doing with them? You are using your booties as "paddles" I used a hand track today...I would not say useless. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I guess it would be better to just run the company into the ground. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Right more like Republicans/willing to work/have personal responsibility-Companies that succeed based on doing a good job for good pay. Dems/ACLU/Lazy people who want handouts-People who want handouts and to be "saved" by those that get off their butts and work and save. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well he could have planted the tire iron....He could have been planning to do this...Hence the video guy and camera. But I bet that the person whoes car was being beat on was not in on it. Just because the videot an moron had planned it, does not mean the lady should not have been able to protect herself. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Don't know of any....But thats why I ASKED the question. Do you know? Maybe you know where in the NT it says they should not be? See I said that the NT over rides the OT.... Anyone know about gays in the NT? I don't care either way since I don't care about either anymore. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And when does that stop? Can my company be made to force my buddy on my health insurance? One company I know of dropped "Domestic Partner" benefits since people were trying to get their siblings and roomates health insurance. And this I agree with 100%. Also I have no issue with two people having legal papers drawn up giving each other the same rights as "married" people have. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ok try to keep up... Sam Walton created Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is Evil for buying from China. Wal-Mart Being Evil means that Sam Walton is the Devil. The Devil is a bad thing, and only believing in a book (Really a set of books) that was written a really long time ago (so they must be true) can save the world from low cost chinese made stuff...The problem is which version of the "truth" do you want? Old? Older? Old and written in a different language? Maybe the revised version? Geeze how stupid can you be, its simple

Yes, but they do conflict, and when the conflict appears the NT "wins" in Christianity . OT Leviticus 24:17-22 "Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death. 18 Whoever kills an animal shall make it good, animal for animal. 19 If a man causes disfigurement of his neighbor, as he has done, so shall it be done to him – 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; as he has caused disfigurement of a man, so shall it be done to him. 21 And whoever kills an animal shall restore it; but whoever kills a man shall be put to death’” NT Luke 6:27 "But I say to you who are listening: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 6:29 To the person who strikes you on the cheek,offer the other as well" "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Do you have any passages about gays in the NT? Do you deny that Christains follow the NT when it goes against the OT? Actually I ignore them all. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The NT trumps the OT. Most Christians I know don't pay any attention to the OT snce the NT is the word of the savior. OT: An eye for an eye. NT: Turn the other cheek. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Please tell me where in the NEW TESTAMENT it says gays should be killed? See Christains follow the NT, not the OT. Now if you want to look at this from a Jewish POV, yes Jews would think gays should be killed....Muslims also. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And I will GLADLY admit that if he did it just to kill him...He was wrong as hell. I want to believe that the fact he was not brought up on charges means it was a good shoot. There is a video on here about the guys that shot the man as he crawled around....I would REALLY like to know the story about it. The video makes it look really bad...I'd like to know if there is more to the story. If it is proven that it was a bad shoot....Then I want them to pay. Same with the Marine officer that put that stupid sign "No better friend, no worse enemy" on the car after he claims to have defended himself.... Even if the shoot is justified...He should be punished for being stupid and leaving that sign. That is unacceptable for a soldier, much less an officer. See we can agree. Both on each others POV. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And what I am saying is without the Tactical knowledge....you have no clue what the right course of action is.... Like I said before how would you want them to handle going into a room they had JSUT recieved fire, and returned fire. Upon entering the room you see four bodies. One is clearly "pretending" to be dead. You know that the enemy has in the past (as like that DAY less than a block away) used a body or used an IED to kill a person when they went to search/capture them. you try to get the to surrender, but the continue to play dead. What do you do? Well? And you have to act fast...What do you do? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OK we might be on to something here. I will AGREE that if you *know* that the guy is unarmed and is NOT booby trapped you should not shoot him.....Fair? Now, how do you *know* he is unarmed, does not have an IED, and is in fact not playing dead to jump you? Please answer this. We had a joke in the Army..."How do you know you are in a mine field?"...answer "Your buddy lets you know." Thats a bad way to find something out. See what you do is approach with caution. You look to see who is "faking" and you demand a surrender. If they ignore you, you can't tell if they are planning something, and still are faking it...Then what do you do? Wait for them to try and kill you? You gave the the chance to surrender...If they still play dead...They are up to no good. Simple fact we treat our captives to medical aid, and food....They would rather die killing us. So what do you do when you enter a house where you have been shot from and find an enemy that is known for palying dead to kill you, clearly pretending to be dead and not obeying your commands? Please...Tell me what you would do? Nope, but when you tell them to surrender, and they do not...And you are unable to determine if they are doing it to kill you or not, you make the choice to kill they guy that was tying to kill you and not risk dying to find out if he is gonna try to kill you. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

None of them. But you forgot to add these: Does the enemy booby trap bodies? Yes. Does the enemy strike under the guise of being injured dead, or willing to surrender? Yes. All of the above. Plus you refuse to accept any answer that is not in line with you preconcieved views. Yes, but those opinions need to balanced with knowledge. You are a whuffo in these matters...Your opinion weighs right with the whuffos that read a news report about skydiving and make uneducated comments. No, and it has cost me love. This is not the same thing, you are making comments based off of news reports....The command made a choice based off of the situation...A situation you know nothing about. Blind hatred will not help it either. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Heres one: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1554037#1554037 In that one I say Bush getting involved with Schiavo was wrong. In another post same subject "I wish the Bush Brothers had stayed out of it." Same subject different post http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1543355#1543355 So there is a case where I thought Bush himself was wrong. I have also admitted that there were no WMD's...But I guess since it does not fit into your view off the world you will not lets facts bother you. This whole paragraph has jack shit to do with the tactical situation....You can't get over this part to allow yourself to look at the incident in question. Your view is biased. And you think your opinion of a guy that has never worn a uniform and got his intel from CNN knows better than the guy taht was in the room? Or the command? Get real. #1 thats a personal attack. #2 Your hatred for the US is blinding you. Oh, and we have put people in jail for acting stupid. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, if you knew anything about Christianity the major point is to ADMIT you are a sinner and you can only be saved by Christ. So by having sin and asking forgiveness you are in fact a perfect Christian. If I were gay, I'd claim to be Christian since I'd have a chance of getting away with it. The Muslim religion is not so nice about it. If fact you would be put to death. Interesting factoid...The Torrah does not say that men can't lust for men...In fact it only says that the ACT is bad. And there is no rule against females being gay....Other than they may be seen as lascivious. Go fish...BTW still boring. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

He didn't...He tried to pretend to be dead. A tactic used a lot by those guys. If he had tried to surrender..We would not be talking about this. Also you keep forgetting that the Marines were fired on from the Mosque. The Marine was justified and it was called a good shoot. People with a lot more access to the facts have said that...You and your CNN report do not come close. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334