Ron

Safe and easy, launch a Stair Step diamond. Let go of the leg grips and build the center. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Better turns than anything else size to size. The flare seems strong, I think the Sigma seems to have a little better flare range. The A2 has a strong flare but it seems later. Openings on the A2 are great. The slider...I am too short to reach it. It does not bother me one way or the other. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well, I have already stated I don't agree with random testing for recreational activities. An employer has the right, just as you have the right not to apply for a job that requires it. As for the false positives, most good drug screening programs have a follow up test for any positives. So if the cheap test pops you, the second much better test will clear you if you you are really not guilty. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Just wanted to make sure that even though you have no proof, you claim something totally opposite of what the proof we do have...Even your own sources. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

From your own source: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I have taken drug tests with my job...(FAA, DOT) I took drug tests in the Military. I take drig tests for Sky Dive City. I have taken well over 30 drug tests...No positives. I find it funny you back science all the time...until it hurts your position. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I was at an FSL meet 2003. A team had a person get hurt and Kurt asked me to fill in. This team had been doing a 9 avg all year. This meet they did an 11 avg and they claimed to have the best meet of their lives. The next meet with the regular back in place...a 9 average again. When I lost a teammate in 2002 we had members of Majic fill in to keep us going. Those jumps were much better than with our prior line up almost instantly. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Uh, you need to read history. Its been done twice. Andrew Johnson 1867-1968 Clinton 1998 Try using facts next time. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

A US team did a 15.8 at the World Cup 2002. They represented the US, does that make them world class? If you think just going and representing your country makes you World Class, then Iceland with its 1.88 makes them World Class. You can decide who is world class by just off hand three things: 1. Been to the big game. 2. A certain Average. 3. Throwing darts. 1. Some comps you don't really need to qualify. Tetrad was going to go to a WC 1999 to represent the US. They were doing a 12-13....Does that make them World Class? I'd say no. 2. A certain Average. A 20 Average seems to be the standard. 3. Well I like darts. I don't think just going is enough...Frost 2002 was invited to the Saudi Nationals to represent the US. We were doing a 15...Would going have made us World class? I'd say no. For example...Pete Allum is World Class. He has never gotten a medal in 4way at the World Meet (as far as I can recall)...But he is World Class. Same with Thomas. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sure, but you ignore the Feith Memo: Those seem like ties to terrorism to me. Also, please, bring up Duelfer: This was 1995...anf BTW thats AFTER 1991. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

On May 21st they did a 16.3. You will not medal without a 20. Fasttrax is a classy group. But they have not yet posted a 20, and ALL of the others listed already have. To quote Robert Frost (way out of context....But what the hell): "From what Ive tasted of desire, I hold with those that favor fire". "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

At the World meet there was a drug test. You don't random everybody that races....So why random everyone that jumps? I have no problme with drug test FOR EMPLOYMENT. But for recreation? Get real. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you have proof of lies that were used to lead this country into war, please by all means get congress involved and impeach the President. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Why would you let a poll settle a wager? If the conditions were met, they were met. Feel free to do as you please....You loaded this thread against him from the start. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Why? I don't get that. I managed to get a Static Line "I", a Tandem rating, And an AFF rating. Plus a Regional Judge Rating. as a weekend warrior. The Military helped with another Tandem rating, and a PRO rating. But I know plenty of weekend warriors that have ratings....In fact most people I with ratings I would guess are weekend warriors. A Tandem rating takes one weekend to get. (Strong). The Vector takes a little more time with all the provisionary jumps. An AFF course can be done in 3-4 days. Take a weeks vacation and you will be done. www.skydiveratings.com I HIGHLY recomend Bram and Elly. This is even at your Home DZ. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Or, you could serve your country for 20 years, hook up with an officer and skydive.... I have been told thats a good way. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Try the Pilot. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats because the Cobat is actually a 107 sized canopy. Cobalt was pretty famous for claiming that a canopy "flew bigger"...It was a marketing ploy. The Hornet was a good canopy. Had different colored line attachment points that made learning to pro pack easier. It was a good canopy "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Find a new job that will give you time off. You were just talking about quitting to skydive for a living, find another job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Do the best of both worlds....Have a real job and teach on weekends. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Try both. Get the one that fits you best. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

They are not. But my beef is that you should not take a symbol of hard work and give it to anyone just to make them feel special if they did not earn it. How would you feel if all high school grads became Dr's to make them feel special? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Did I SAY they should have exclusive rights? No I said it is a shame that some POG's crying got a shit for brains commander to take away a symbol that some folks busted their ass to EARN, and gave it away to a cry baby. Its a signal of our "I want special treatment, but don't want to earn it" times. No, because those uniforms were combat ineffective....The second was cool looking however. I guess only you are a true Dr? to quote you "deal with it" "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

He builds them fast. They last. Great customer service. A Comp suit will work for 99% of the people. If its your first suit with booties it would be better to get the regular ones. If you come to FL I'll see if I can get a suit for you to borrow to see the difference. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

1. Yeah, but not well. 2. Yes, until it falls off when they start running. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334