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may 12 - harris - 29% http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114735765551950179-w7V4BRLul0aQ57xTm63c_3bKREY_20070512.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

oh yeah that is right the terrorists can't find any other way to get a gun than to go around to different legal gun dealers and purchase them after filling out paperwork and giving ID. I bet there are no extra AK47's laying around somwhere they can just stick in a shipping container. yeah I would gues they would rather create a paper trail than to get them on the open market in a third world country for around 20 bucks a copy. Wow this amazes me...I mean really...do you worship Diane Feinstein and Charles Schumer? I'll take that as a no then, even if can't answer without loosing out your temper. Have you ever answered a questions without an accusation? So because you can buy a weapon on the black market we should do nothing about monitoring the legal stuff. You could use that arguement about anything, how about stolen cell phones? I mean why would a terrorist buy a legal one when there are stolen ones available all the time, they could change number on every call they make so that there is no pattern.

I disagree, the material is great no matter how many times you hear it, and this forum is very entertaining most of the time. Lately, some of the more looney lefties here remind me of the paranoid characters in the Midnight Express insane asylum movie scenes. Funny stuff, keeps me in stitches. It is sad that the loony left is getting such a forum, it clouds the issue, it is unreasonable to compare bush to historical facists and dictators, I do not believe that this could happen in the USA, too many checks and balances even though they are grossly slow and inefficient. What he is doing is introducing a level of federal intrusion into our lives that is unacceptable regardless of the intent. I find it absurd that the some of the conservatives on this forum who are so vocal about their second amendment rights are so pro-phone monitoring. It seems that any terrorist could walk into a store and buy a gun in this country, there is no way to establish a pattern of arms purchases, they could quietly arm themselves by spreading their purchases over several states and stores. My question to the pro-call group is would you support a similar monitoring of gun purchases for the purpose of spotting terrorists?

Are you so naive as to believe that they cannot do not have access to a reverse directory phonebook? And why exactly would they want to look you up? Are you so naive as to believe the govt. has the time, money or inclination to look up tens of million of phone calls made every day? Do you think they are interested in someone who calls their Aunt Martha to discuss Uncle Barts Birthday. Get a grip, man! - Linking a phone directory to this database would be trivial, and would cost very little. It is a simple cross reference between two database tables. The government can now, at the click of a button, get a list of everyone you have talked to on the phone, how offen you talked, when and for how long, are you really OK with that?

Are you so naive as to believe that they cannot do not have access to a reverse directory phonebook?

Nuns have never had to cover their face. The fact that religious Islam requires that is what is most offensive to Westerners. America is conservative when it comes to exposed flesh, remember all the fuss when jacksons tit popped out for a fraction of a second, in europe exposed tits are commonplace on TV. It is just a questions of the culture, there is nothing wrong with the islamic dress code it is just different than ours. We enforce our dress code by law (you'd get arrested for walking butt naked on a public street) and they enforce theirs, get over it.

So what do you think Bush marks as his biggest moment. Tax cuts? Declaring the end of the war in iraq? Capturing sadam? No child left behind act? No his biggest moment was catching a fish, a 7.5lb perch. I wonder what his popularity is with the fish? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4982338.stm

Ahhh, the eulogy of freedom. That's what the gun owners said, when they used that excuse about the background checks, too.... "If you're law-abiding, why are you so scared about a background check?" Same principle.... So why are you (and the other pro-gun pro-giving phone records to the government posters) OK with the government having access to our phone records but against having background checks on gun purchases? The argument of having nothing to fear applies to both. The argument about the constitution is the same (2&4) The only difference I can see is that one is a right wing and and the other a left wing initiative. One argument against gun registration is the government using the information for the wrong reason, i.e. to know who has the guns so they can be disarmed, if you do not trust the government with registration info why do you trust them with all the records of everyone phone calls? Sounds like partisan hypocrisy to me. What would you do if Bush signed an executive order forcing gun registration, in fact I bet they already keep track of who is buying guns, they just havn't leaked it yet.

I think it is great that you are doing this. Some claim that this is govt. interference, sounds like me that you are a group of converned citizens, not the govt, more power to you. I hope you get your ban, I hate smoking it is disgusting, you would get arrested if you took a shit in a bar, why should you be able to stand and spew smoke into someone elses lungs with the full knowledge it can harm others and just for your own pleasure. As an ex-smoker myself I know smokers are very selfish as a whole (with exceptions of course), they need to be stopped by rules nothing else works. Smokers are drug addicts, social niceties don't stand a chance when you are dealing with an addict.

A stopped clock is right twice a day. Ha, Bush never gets it right that often, I think a better analogy would be a calendar stuck on feb 29th. Seriously though it was a good thing increasing the limits, I think the energy crisis has reached proportions so that even the most knuckle headed right wingers see that there is a problem. I just hope this desire to fix the problem is not a once off wonder.

Bush has done something that the bleeding heart leftists have been crying out for ages and increased the mgp requirements for SUVs and trucks. I was genuinely suprised by this and very pleased. http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/03/29/fuel_economy.reut/index.html

8 years in fact, but I'm sure you'll find some other way to discredit him. He had also served in afganistan, northern ireland and other hot spots around the world, so this is not his first combat zone. He is a seasoned soldier. Prepared to debate the issues he raised rather than attack the man's character now? I think that you are the one afraid to face the reality of the situation in iraq, he is the one that had the balls to stand up and say what he really saw.

He was killed by a legal handgun! Using this as a reason to support a ban of legal handguns in the USA would be just as absurd/stupid/insane/irrational as PJ using the original story in this post for bashing the UK and its gun laws so I won't go there.

We have about .3 BILLION guns in the U.S. Even if each of those offenses were committed by a separate person with a separate gun, that is still a vanishingly small percentage. Do the math: 347,705 divided by 300,000,000 = 0.00115901, or one tenth of one percent. Six years after a ban on guns, and you had 10,340 firearms offenses?! How is that? Are you forced to admit that there is a problem with criminals owning guns in an island country where they are banned, and where even the lawful owners of guns were never protected against police intrusion to check on the guns' status? It might give those who would be victims a better shot at fighting back againt their attackers, possibly helping reduce the number of extant attackers who may continue to prey on the population at large. - As usual you avoid the point of the original poster that homicide via firearms is way lower in the UK and use some stupid statistic on percentage of guns to say that there is not a problem. Remember guns don't kill people, people kill people. I think you have a serious hangup with the UK for some reason, I don't understand it, you take every opportunity you can to bash the UK. In my mind I have a picture of you franticallly searching the internet for information to be used in you anti-UK propaganda war muttering to yourself about how bad the UK is and squealing with joy when you find something and then rush to post it on dz.com and all other forums you may be a member of.

it is impossible to get more out that you put in, basic physics, conservation of energy. The real question is how much does it cost to charge the cell and how efficient is it.

This is not true, I don't know where the author is getting his data but he is not looking at reality. My civic hybrid blue book value is higher that the MSRP and it is almost year old with 8000 miles. A friend bought a prius with 90K, 5years old and it has only lost 20-30% of it's MSRP. Compare that with my BMW, it has lost 40% of its MSRP after 5 years and 50K, and it is a car that is supposed to be good at keeping its value. I also get to drive in car pool lanes for a couple of years, this saves me 30 mins a day, add that up and it is 120 hours a year or 3 weeks vacation. I save about $1500 a year in gas, by the time the warranty expires (100K) this will be $6000 of savings (more if gas goes up again) which covers the extra cost of the car. Don't base you decision to by a hybrid on this article, it is BS.

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I don't disagree with you. I just think at this point anything less than digging in the desert in Iraq and uncovering huge stockpiles of a nerve agent or bio weapons and proving they were there before the invasion, won't change public or world opinion. It is very hard to get a murder conviction without a body. Is it that unreasonable to require them to be found before believing that he actually had them or are we just supposed to believe without question? Perhaps our "leaders" would rather we just shut up and did not question what they do.

[silence] [/silence] peaceful isn't it.

Source: Houston Chronicle If only skydiving could have an injury rate as low as hunting... I think you have hit on it, we should arm skydivers. The number of fatalities involving armed skydivers over the last 10 years is exactly zero. This proves that skydiving while carrying is the most effective way to prevent fatalities.

Davis (Skydance skydiving) Byron (Bay area skydiving) Hollister (Adventure center skydiving) Are all turbine DZs with good upjumper crowds within reasonable driving distance of Sonoma, Davis is the closest and a very friendly DZ, they have the new PAC 750, the other two have king airs.

FIxed it for you.

I think you are just scared that if that happened the dollar would play second fiddle to the euro.

So, even though Toronto's murder rate has gone up 28% in the last 10 years, that doesn't bother you, because it's not as bad as Chicago, DC or Baltimore, three of the worst cities in America? No I did not say that it did not bother me, I said that the article is comparing data that is not compatible. The "spike" in Toronto is 17 extra deaths. That number is almost lost in the noise in the US cities compared in this report. Again drawing conclusions from my post that are not valid. I did not say they do not have a problem. I hope that they can figure out how to remedy it. Comparing them with the US murder capitals is silly and unhelpful. The article is written to be sensational, it is pro-gun garbage aimed at causing outrage. This goal was achieved, as is evident by you posting it. ***

Chicago had 450 last year DC had 420 Baltimore had 269 Toronto had 78 This article is comparing apples with oranges, fairly typical pro-gun BS.