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Dave Sickler died of a heart attack and I believe Fog did as well (but not as certain of this). Si Fraser, I believe, was killed in the crash of a Lockheed Lodestar in Arkansas that was flying at night in bad weather and low altitude during the aerial delivery of agricultural produce. This information came from accident records of Lockheed Lodestars located on the web so I cannot vouch of its accuracy. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Just the opposite. Virtually everyone in the government has lied about this issue going back to WWII and coming up to the present time. It is NOT okay that this has been going on for more than 60 years. You seem to be unable to grasp the fact that it has been done by virtually everyone - Dems and Republicans alike and most people in this country don't seem to give a damn. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

A large part (but not all agencies) of the federal government have been lying about the matter of POW/MIA since at least WWII, not just this Korean War...ooops, Conflict/Police Action. Think back about the POW/MIA hearings in Congress in which John Kerry played such a large role...more lying about this issue. Truman failed to pursue the matter after WWII, Eisenhower failed to adequately pursue it after the Korean War, and Nixon did the same after Vietnam. It was politically expedient to bury the entire matter. Sorry 'bout that, GI. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

"Republicans elect those same sort of people to positions of power"??? It wasn't only Republicans that voted for Arnold; the Republicans are in the minority in the granola state. A lot of Democrats must have voted for him as well. Assuming you think Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry etc were more suited to the presidency that Fred Thompson or Ronald Reagan, perhaps you can point out what made them better qualified. Can you point out some of their great achievements while you are at it? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Fairchild 71C with a P&W Wasp engine of 420 hp. As far as it's time to climb, I'm guessing you needed to bring your lunch. http://www.ualberta.ca/EDMONTON/CONTRIB/airmuseum/aamfairchild.html "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

and the P&W R-1830 engine on the DC3 (no experience with the Wrights) had a capacity of 29 gallons (not quarts) of oil but you only put in 25 gallons to allow for foaming...that is EACH engine! That's a lot of oil to spit! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Evidence of this? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

or the Saxons give the UK back to the Celts. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Time to invoke "Rule 303". If they aren't wearing uniforms and are participating in combat actions against coalition forces, don't take them as prisoners....and certainly don't bring them to any US territory. We'll probably lose some intelligence potential but they won't be able to cause us any problems in the future. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Another idiotic, virtually uneforceable law. Heck, you aren't supposed to talk on a cell phone when driving in CT unless you have a hands-free device. What a crock as this goes on ALL the time. The police have better things to do....in theory, at least. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Remarks at the U.S. Ranger Monument Pointe du Hoc, France June 6, 1984 One of two speeches commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the D-Day Invasion, this speech was delivered at the site of the U.S. Ranger Monument at Pointe du Hoc, France, where veterans of the Normandy Invasion, and others, had assembled for the ceremony. Later during the day, President Reagan spoke at Omaha Beach, France. 1,988 words. We're here to mark that day in history when the Allied armies joined in battle to reclaim this continent to liberty. For four long years, much of Europe had been under a terrible shadow. Free nations had fallen, Jews cried out in the camps, millions cried out for liberation. Europe was enslaved, and the world prayed for its rescue. Here in Normandy the rescue began. Here the Allies stood and fought against tyranny in a giant undertaking unparalleled in human history. We stand on a lonely, windswept point on the northern shore of France. The air is soft, but 40 years ago at this moment, the air was dense with smoke and the cries of men, and the air was filled with the crack of rifle fire and the roar of cannon. At dawn, on the morning of the 6th of June, 1944, 225 Rangers jumped off the British landing craft and ran to the bottom of these cliffs. Their mission was one of the most difficult and daring of the invasion: to climb these sheer and desolate cliffs and take out the enemy guns. The Allies had been told that some of the mightiest of these guns were here and they would be trained on the beaches to stop the Allied advance. The Rangers looked up and saw the enemy soldiers--the edge of the cliffs shooting down at them with machine guns and throwing grenades. And the American Rangers began to climb. They shot rope ladders over the face of these cliffs and began to pull themselves up. When one Ranger fell, another would take his place. When one rope was cut, a Ranger would grab another and begin his climb again. They climbed, shot back, and held their footing. Soon, one by one, the Rangers pulled themselves over the top, and in seizing the firm land at the top of these cliffs, they began to seize back the continent of Europe. Two hundred and twenty-five came here. After two days of fighting, only 90 could still bear arms. Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs. And before me are the men who put them there. These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war. Gentlemen, I look at you and I think of the words of Stephen Spender's poem. You are men who in your "lives fought for life . . . and left the vivid air signed with your honor.'' I think I know what you may be thinking right now--thinking, "We were just part of a bigger effort; everyone was brave that day.'' Well, everyone was. Do you remember the story of Bill Millin of the 51st Highlanders? Forty years ago today, British troops were pinned down near a bridge, waiting desperately for help. Suddenly, they heard the sound of bagpipes, and some thought they were dreaming. Well, they weren't. They looked up and saw Bill Millin with his bagpipes, leading the reinforcements and ignoring the smack of the bullets into the ground around him. Lord Lovat was with him--Lord Lovat of Scotland, who calmly announced when he got to the bridge, "Sorry I'm a few minutes late,'' as if he'd been delayed by a traffic jam, when in truth he'd just come from the bloody fighting on Sword Beach, which he and his men had just taken. There was the impossible valor of the Poles who threw themselves between the enemy and the rest of Europe as the invasion took hold, and the unsurpassed courage of the Canadians who had already seen the horrors of war on this coast. They knew what awaited them there, but they would not be deterred. And once they hit Juno Beach, they never looked back. All of these men were part of a rollcall of honor with names that spoke of a pride as bright as the colors they bore: the Royal Winnipeg Rifles, Poland's 24th Lancers, the Royal Scots Fusiliers, the Screaming Eagles, the Yeomen of England's armored divisions, the forces of Free France, the Coast Guard's "Matchbox Fleet'' and you, the American Rangers. Forty summers have passed since the battle that you fought here. You were young the day you took these cliffs; some of you were hardly more than boys, with the deepest joys of life before you. Yet, you risked everything here. Why? Why did you do it? What impelled you to put aside the instinct for self-preservation and risk your lives to take these cliffs? What inspired all the men of the armies that met here? We look at you, and somehow we know the answer. It was faith and belief; it was loyalty and love. The men of Normandy had faith that what they were doing was right, faith that they fought for all humanity, faith that a just God would grant them mercy on this beachhead or on the next. It was the deep knowledge--and pray God we have not lost it--that there is a profound, moral difference between the use of force for liberation and the use of force for conquest. You were here to liberate, not to conquer, and so you and those others did not doubt your cause. And you were right not to doubt. You all knew that some things are worth dying for. One's country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. All of you loved liberty. All of you were willing to fight tyranny, and you knew the people of your countries were behind you. The Americans who fought here that morning knew word of the invasion was spreading through the darkness back home. They thought--or felt in their hearts, though they couldn't know in fact, that in Georgia they were filling the churches at 4 a.m., in Kansas they were kneeling on their porches and praying, and in Philadelphia they were ringing the Liberty Bell. Something else helped the men of D-Day: their rock-hard belief that Providence would have a great hand in the events that would unfold here; that God was an ally in this great cause. And so, the night before the invasion, when Colonel Wolverton asked his parachute troops to kneel with him in prayer he told them: Do not bow your heads, but look up so you can see God and ask His blessing in what we're about to do. Also that night, General Matthew Ridgway on his cot, listening in the darkness for the promise God made to Joshua: "I will not fail thee nor forsake thee.'' These are the things that impelled them; these are the things that shaped the unity of the Allies. When the war was over, there were lives to be rebuilt and governments to be returned to the people. There were nations to be reborn. Above all, there was a new peace to be assured. These were huge and daunting tasks. But the Allies summoned strength from the faith, belief, loyalty, and love of those who fell here. They rebuilt a new Europe together. There was first a great reconciliation among those who had been enemies, all of whom had suffered so greatly. The United States did its part, creating the Marshall Plan to help rebuild our allies and our former enemies. The Marshall Plan led to the Atlantic alliance--a great alliance that serves to this day as our shield for freedom, for prosperity, and for peace. In spite of our great efforts and successes, not all that followed the end of the war was happy or planned. Some liberated countries were lost. The great sadness of this loss echoes down to our own time in the streets of Warsaw, Prague, and East Berlin. Soviet troops that came to the center of this continent did not leave when peace came. They're still there, uninvited, unwanted, unyielding, almost 40 years after the war. Because of this, Allied forces still stand on this continent. Today, as 40 years ago, our armies are here for only one purpose--to protect and defend democracy. The only territories we hold are memorials like this one and graveyards where our heroes rest. We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent. But we try always to be prepared for peace; prepared to deter aggression; prepared to negotiate the reduction of arms; and, yes, prepared to reach out again in the spirit of reconciliation. In truth, there is no reconciliation we would welcome more than a reconciliation with the Soviet Union, so, together, we can lessen the risks of war, now and forever. It's fitting to remember here the great losses also suffered by the Russian people during World War II: 20 million perished, a terrible price that testifies to all the world the necessity of ending war. I tell you from my heart that we in the United States do not want war. We want to wipe from the face of the Earth the terrible weapons that man now has in his hands. And I tell you, we are ready to seize that beachhead. We look for some sign from the Soviet Union that they are willing to move forward, that they share our desire and love for peace, and that they will give up the ways of conquest. There must be a changing there that will allow us to turn our hope into action. We will pray forever that some day that changing will come. But for now, particularly today, it is good and fitting to renew our commitment to each other, to our freedom, and to the alliance that protects it. We are bound today by what bound us 40 years ago, the same loyalties, traditions, and beliefs. We're bound by reality. The strength of America's allies is vital to the United States, and the American security guarantee is essential to the continued freedom of Europe's democracies. We were with you then; we are with you now. Your hopes are our hopes, and your destiny is our destiny. Here, in this place where the West held together, let us make a vow to our dead. Let us show them by our actions that we understand what they died for. Let our actions say to them the words for which Matthew Ridgway listened: "I will not fail thee nor forsake thee.'' Strengthened by their courage, heartened by their value [valor], and borne by their memory, let us continue to stand for the ideals for which they lived and died. Thank you very much, and God bless you all. Note: The President spoke at 1:20 p.m. at the site of the U.S. Ranger Monument at Pointe du Hoc, France, where veterans of the Normandy invasion had assembled for the ceremony. Following his remarks, the President unveiled memorial plaques to the 2nd and 5th Ranger Battalions. Then, escorted by Phil Rivers, superintendent of the Normandy American Cemetery, the President and Mrs. Reagan proceeded to the interior of the observation bunker. On leaving the bunker, the President and Mrs. Reagan greeted each of the veterans. Other Allied countries represented at the ceremony by their heads of state and government were: Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, Queen Beatrix of The Netherlands, King Olav V of Norway, King Baudouin I of Belgium, Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg, and Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau of Canada. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

I'm guessing Connie Simpson is the paxIf so, they may have been doing it for advertising photos. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

That's what liberals do when the facts are not on their side. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

http://disarmament.un.org/cab/salw.html (212) 963 1234 - This one should get you started. Tell me the type of handgun...maybe I will take it off your hands. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/5455 U.N. Readies for Draft on Small Arms Control Treaty Wed, 2007-04-25 04:59 By Thalif Deen - Inter Press Service United Nations, 25 April (IPS):- Against the backdrop of a new national poll calling for stricter gun control in the wake of the mass killings of 32 people on a U.S. university campus last week, the United Nations is getting ready to formulate a new international treaty regulating the proliferation of small arms worldwide. "There is not yet a draft," said Jennifer Abrahamson of Oxfam International, one of the lead organizations campaigning for the treaty, along with the London-based Amnesty International and International Action Network on Small Arms (IANSA). "What's happening now is that governments are due to turn in their blueprints of what they believe a draft should look like," she added. The hard deadline is the end of April, but submissions by the 192 U.N. member states will be accepted through Jun. 20. "This is the first real action that will lead to a treaty," Abrahamson told IPS. According to last week's poll, conducted by the New York Times and the Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) television network, most Americans favored stricter control of handguns in the wake of the killings of 32 people in a shooting rampage at Virginia Tech campus. But there was no widespread support for a total ban on handguns, the weapons used in the Virginia Tech shootings in the town of Blacksburg, Virginia. The proposed treaty, which was supported by 153 of the 192 member states in a resolution adopted by the U.N. General Assembly last December, does not envisage a total ban either. But the treaty is expected to call for a regulation of the production and sale of small arms, including handguns. A U.N. expert panel has identified small arms to include assault rifles, pistols, sub-machine guns, light machine guns, mortars, portable anti-aircraft guns, grenade launchers, anti-tank missile and rocket systems, hand grenades and anti-personnel landmines. At a U.N. press conference Monday, former U.N. high commissioner for human rights Mary Robinson stressed that the handguns that had played a devastating role in the tragic deaths in Virginia Tech had been purchased legally. Asked about the countries, including the United States, which had expressed reservations on the resolution calling for a treaty, Robinson said that "policy issues were internal to the United States." But she hoped that the sense of personal loss felt by Americans and others, as well as the response from the Virginia Tech community, could bring home the terrible cost being paid in many countries around the world. "The campaign should try to engage the United States and those countries that had abstained in the vote so that they could recognize the need to control arms -- just as nuclear weapons had been regulated -- with varying degrees of success," said Robinson, a former president of Ireland. Asked who the skeptics of the treaty are, Abrahamson said that besides the United States, these include China, Russia and several Arab states. But she pointed out that several other major international treaties "have gone through without the United States and other skeptics." A good example is the treaty banning landmines. With respect to how confident Oxfam is about the success of such a treaty, Abrahamson said: "What is important now is that governments do their part (particularly the 153 nations that agreed to the treaty in December 2006) by submitting their plans -- plans which are rooted in international humanitarian and human rights law." She said the treaty business is very time-consuming. "We are hoping that a treaty will be completed by 2010 which, historically, is quite quick." "We hope that the process is completed within the United Nations," the activist added. If this is derailed for some reason, she said, the movement will continue outside the United Nations, as did the landmine treaty. But for now, barring the detractors, there is strong consensus to continue forward with a treaty, she emphasized. Helen Mirren, an Oscar-winning actress and an arms control activist, said Monday that "From Kenya to Brazil to Sri Lanka, there are more weapons than ever before, and they are easier and cheaper to obtain." She noted that in December 2006, 80 per cent of the world's governments voted to start work on developing the international Arms Trade Treaty. "All governments now have a responsibility to make an effective Arms Trade Treaty a reality," she added. Joseph Dube, a spokesperson for the IANSA arms control coalition, said there is a very real risk that skeptical governments, such as the U.S. administration, could seek to water down the treaty, rendering it too weak to save lives. But "The over a million people around the world who support this treaty will not allow that to happen," he warned. Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry of the UK, who is also the current president of the U.N. Security Council, told reporters that in Africa, only HIV/AIDS was a bigger killer than small arms. While much of the industry behaved responsibly, he pointed out, illegal trafficking is a major problem and has to be curbed. "The scale of the problem requires a U.N. multilateral response," he said. Progress on elaborating the proposed treaty had been encouraging, he said, but he added that he was under no illusion that the next two or three years would be tough going, as "governments conveniently hid behind the negotiations and refused to fully disclose their positions." - Inter Press Service (IPS) News Agency - Yep. I'm paranoid. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Can you say "United Nations"? They are working to disarm this country or have you not been keeping up with their acitivities along these lines. The NRA had to fight a big battle to even get a place at the UN conferences on banning weapons. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Done. I have to travel to Orange County, CA on a regular basis to visit customers; the more legally-armed citizens, the better. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

An anti-Second Amendment rights group in sheep's clothing. Read up on the background of the founder; no doubt on which side of the fence this guy really is. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Members of Congress need to take a course in Economics 101 at their local community college or state university and learn about the law of supply and demand....more supply than demand for a product drives down the cost. Drill and refine more, talk less. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

I can see that NO ONE here has learned anything from the Duke "rape" case about believing everything put out by the media right after an incident. First reports are usually wrong...and often bear no resemblance to the actual facts. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

How many "ice ages" have there been during the existence of the earth?? Scientists seem to know of at least five...each of which was followed by a warm period. "Ages" and "periods" are not measured in days, weeks, months or years. Rather, they are measured in thousands of years. This has been going on much longer than man has been walking the face of the earth. That being the case, what was the cause of all the previous periods of global coolings or global warmings? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Staged? No. Do your research. What was "staged" was a large, group picture of about twenty or so Marines after the flag raising photo was taken. The flag-raising shot was not "staged". http://www.iwojima.com/raising/l721flag.gif "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Actually, I am totally against user fees for funding the national air traffic control system...but it was a good vehicle for demonstrating your hypocrisy. Frankly, I could care less in the US military kills millions of brown-skinned (or any other color) people who represent a threat to this country and its citizens. Of course, your figure of "tens of thousands" is crap but that is besides the point. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

Are you familiar with the term "non sequitur"? So, you are comparing Catholic high schools to "Madressas"? Interesting. From what I've read, home schooled students often greatly out-perform their public schooled contemporaties in such tests of their learning as SATs, National Spelling Bees, National Math competitions, etc. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling

The Constitution says "promote the general welfare"...NOT provide it. Since education is not specified by the US Constitution as one of the responsibilities of the federal government, it defaults to being the responsibility of the individual states. There is absolutely no reason for the federal government to be taxing citizens for "education" and then doling out money to the states. All this does is subsidize a bureaucracy in Washington and drain tax dollars away from the states who are responsible for collecting taxes for local schools. As far as "invading countries"...the best defense is a good offense. You can quote me on that! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling