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Fraud, discrimination claims roil huge voter registration Tuesday, October 07, 2008 CROWN POINT | New voter registrations closed Monday in Lake County with possible record-breaking numbers and simmering allegations of fraud and racial discrimination. Elections board Director Sally LaSota said more than 12,000 voter registration forms are waiting to be processed from recent days before the county knows how many potential voters are ready to cast ballots in the Nov. 4 general election. "It may be a record," she said. Porter County has processed at least 3,500 voter applications since the spring primary in May, officials there said. However, the large influx has brought new controversies. LaSota said Monday representatives of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, a grassroots activist group conducting registration drives, dropped off 2,000 new voter applications last week in Lake County. "About 1,100 are no good," she said. LaSota said the flawed forms are incomplete or contain unreadable handwriting -- similar to hundreds of other forms ACORN produced prior to this week. She said some ACORN vote canvassers apparently pulled names and addresses from telephone books and forged signatures. Charles Jackson, communications director for ACORN, said Monday its administrators screened out the 1,100 registration forms in question and warned county officials the documents were suspect. He said ACORN left the final decision to discard the forms to county officials. He said ACORN has fired and reported to law enforcement any employees suspected of vote fraud. "We consider it stealing from ACORN," Jackson said. Lake County Republican Chairman John Curley said Monday the ACORN registration drive is the main reason he opposes the opening of early voting centers in Gary, Hammond and East Chicago. He filed a lawsuit last week in state and federal courts to stop the three branch offices from opening Monday. County officials agreed last week to delay opening the early locations until U.S. District Court Judge Joseph Van Bokkelen rules on the matter later this week. Curley said opening too many early voting locations would strain the county election staff's efforts to stop people from using fraudulent registrations. Jay Kenworth, a spokesman for the Indiana Republican Party said Monday, "We are obviously deeply disturbed by the news of these fraudulent registrations." An attorney for the Indiana State Conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, filed papers in federal court alleging Curley's opposition to early voting was an unconstitutional to discriminate against black and Hispanic voters of the county. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Felon accused of voting violations Man charged with illegal registrations By LARRY SANDLER lsandler@journalsentinel.com Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 Milwaukee County prosecutors Tuesday charged a convicted felon with illegally registering himself and others to vote between his conviction and his sentencing. The complaint accuses Adam Mucklin, 22, of registering to vote in June, after he was convicted of battery in April, and after a judge told him he couldn’t vote as a convicted felon. Later in June, Mucklin signed up to work as a paid voter registrar for the Community Voters Project, something else he couldn’t do as a convicted felon, the complaint says. A recent opinion from the staff of the state Government Accountability Board says no one convicted of a felony can ever serve as a registrar, a stricter standard than the previous interpretation that registrars only had to be eligible to vote. Under Wisconsin law, felons can’t vote until after they have completed their sentences and are off probation or parole. For Mucklin, that would not be until Jan. 10, 2012, the complaint notes. He is serving his battery sentence in the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, the complaint says. If convicted of both election-related counts, he could be sentenced to up to seven more years in prison and fined up to $20,000. 49 workers suspected Mucklin was among 49 voter registration workers who were referred to the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office by the Milwaukee Election Commission on suspicion of election fraud. He is the second to be charged. Last week, the district attorney’s office charged Endalyn Adams, 21, with submitting registration cards with dozens of fake names to meet what amounted to a quota from the Community Voters Project. Some of the false names were flagged by voters project leaders before the cards were turned over to the Milwaukee Election Commission; those names were never added to the voter rolls, and the rest have been removed. In another five cases, investigators found insufficient evidence of fraud. The rest remain under review, said Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf, who filed the charges against Mucklin and Adams. Virtually all the workers under scrutiny were employed by either the voters project or by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Those groups were among several politically liberal organizations that launched massive voter registration drives in Milwaukee in advance of the Nov. 4 election. As with Adams, leaders of the voters project and ACORN say they caught much of the fraud and alerted authorities before handing in the registration cards. The groups also say the cases represent a small percentage of the dozens of workers and tens of thousands of voters signed up. Republicans have focused on the fraud charges to press their case for tighter voting rules, including photo identification for voters. Democrats have countered that investigations have found no evidence of widespread or organized vote fraud, and they argue that photo ID requirements would discourage some legitimate voters. At a news conference, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said he was doing everything possible to ensure a fair and clean election. Reince Priebus, chairman of the state GOP, said the city should be pushing the state for more extensive checks on voters. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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ACORN's voter registrations questioned By KEN DIXON Staff writer HARTFORD -- The State Elections Enforcement Commission has opened an investigation into allegations that a community activist organization submitted at least 10 false voter-registration cards in Bridgeport. One of the phony registrations was for a 7-year-old girl in the Marina Village housing complex, whose age was listed as 27 on the voter card. Another registration came from a man who later said he couldn't have completed the voter card purported to be his because he was in jail on the date of the document. Joseph J. Borges, the city's Republican registrar of voters, filed the complaint with state officials after months of local complaints on the tactics that ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, was regularly filing applications that were ruled ineligible. In response, a Bridgeport leader of ACORN on Tuesday night called the charges "part of a concerted and coordinated campaign by conservatives and the GOP to attack and discredit ACORN." The charges date back to the summer, when the Connecticut Post reported that ACORN applications were flooding the registrar's office and resulting in excessive extra hours of research to check their authenticity. "We have many more complaints," Borges said Tuesday, adding that the 10 are just highlights. He said he went to Marina Village personally and interviewed the 7-year-old. "I talked with the guardian and said I was just trying to verify the name and the girl came down the stairs," Borges said, adding that the Social Security number was different and the youth was definitely not 27, as indicated on the voter card. ACORN filed more than 8,000 voter cards in the city during its registration drive, but Borges said the piles of cards are riddled with duplicates and false information that was found by him and his staff. Borges submitted evidence including the registration of a Stratford woman who said she was "pressured" into completing a card with a Bridgeport address. Another registration contained two voters registration forms with different signatures for the same person. "We have three boxes of returned letters, with no such address, no such name," Borges said. "It's crazy." On his complaint, Borges said the flood of ACORN-generated voter cards "has put a strain on my office and jeopardizes our ability to enter legitimate registration cards." Nancy S. Nicolescu, director of communications for the SEEC, confirmed Tuesday that the commission took the complaint, but declined further comment. "The only thing I think we can say is we've received it, it's been docketed, and it's under investigation," she said. When the issue first broke over the summer, ACORN officials said that at least one employee was fired for trumping up voter registrations. Emeline Bravo Blackwood, chairwoman of the East End ACORN chapter in Bridgeport, said in a statement Tuesday night that she is "proud" of the local and statewide drives that have registered 20,000 new state voters. "It is shameful that partisan, right-wing operatives -- who are clearly afraid of our ability to bring low-income people to the polls on election day -- are more interested in slinging trumped-up allegations at ACORN than in working with us in our campaigns to stop foreclosures and predatory lending, win paid sick days, raise the minimum wage, and make sure that low-income, working families have a seat at the table in our democracy," she said. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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NUTS! HOW ACORN GOT ME INTO VOTE SCAM By JEANE MacINTOSH, Post Correspondent Christopher Barkley October 9, 2008 CLEVELAND - Two Ohio voters, including Domino's pizza worker Christopher Barkley , claimed yesterday that they were hounded by the community-activist group ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they'd already signed up. Barkley estimated he'd registered to vote "10 to 15" times after canvassers for ACORN, whose political wing has endorsed Barack Obama, relentlessly pursued him and others. Claims such as his have sparked election officials to probe ACORN. "I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register," Barkley said. "They'd ask me if I was registered. I'd say yes, and they'd ask me to do it [register] again. "Some of them were getting paid to collect names. That was their sob story, and I bought it," he said. Barkley is one of at least three people who have been subpoenaed by the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections as part of a wider inquiry into possible voter fraud by ACORN. The group seeks to register low-income voters, who skew overwhelmingly Democratic. "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," said Lateala Goins, 21, who was subpoenaed. "They will follow you to the buses, they will follow you home, it does not matter," she told The Post. She added that she never put down an address on any of the registration forms, just her name. A third subpoenaed voter, Freddie Johnson, 19, filled out registration cards 72 times over 18 months, officials said. "It feeds the public perception that there could be [fraud], and that makes the pillars fall down," said local Board of Elections President Jeff Hastings. Registering under a fake name is illegal. But officials usually catch multiple registrations and toss them. The major risk of fraud growing out of mass canvassing involves the possibility of ineligible voters filing absentee ballots, and thus avoiding checks at polling places, said Republican National Committee chief counsel Sean Cairncross. The subpoenas come as Republicans have ramped up criticism of ACORN. Officials in Nevada raided ACORN's Las Vegas office Tuesday, accusing the group of signing people up multiple times - in some cases under phony names, like those of Dallas Cowboys. ACORN's Cleveland spokesman, Kris Harsh, said his group collected 100,000 voter-registration cards; only about 50 were questionable, he claimed. As for workers, "We watch them like a hawk," he said. jeane.macintosh@nypost.com EDITORIAL: Vote-Fraud-A-Go-Go "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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and now it is ACORN in Ohio! BOE Questions Suspicious Voter Registration Cards Last Edited: Tuesday, 07 Oct 2008, 7:59 PM EDT Created: Tuesday, 07 Oct 2008, 7:59 PM EDT --- SideBar Related Items Stories Many Ohioans Beat Vote Deadline Ohio Immigrants Become Citizens in Time to Vote Many Voter's Cars Towed at BOE While Voting Early Official: Ohio Voters in Foreclosure Can Vote Ohio Voters Responsive to Absentee Voting Push Videos Cuyahoga County Election Board members grilled representatives of a community group Tuesday about their links to suspicious voter registration cards. In one case, a Cleveland resident was registered to vote three times in a single day, listing two different addresses. The man's registration was submitted to the Board of Elections by ACORN. The board discussed several other cases of multiple registrations at their meeting. ACORN was involved in each case, although not for all entries by the same individuals. "Problems do occur and we are concerned as you are, perhaps in some cases more concerned because our name is on that," says Teresa James, an attorney volunteering with ACORN. While admitting they don't have the resources to track all multiple entries, they submit all registrations to the Board and attach a warning about cards that raise suspicions. Leaders of the group say their role is to help low and moderate income residents participate in the democratic process and it's up to the board to weed out problematic registrations. "ACORN is very proud of the work we do registering low income people to vote. Nearly 100-thousand cards, and we're talking about less than 100 people and we're working to resolve issues on that small number of people," said Kristopher Harsh an organizer with the group. Board Member Robert Frost said the group failed to follow guidelines in its own manual to turn over suspected voter fraud to law enforcement to investigate. Election officials subpoenaed three voters to appear before the Board next week to explain their mulitple registrations. The list includes a Cuyahoga County resident whose name appears on 22 registration cards submitted in six months. Soooo, Should Obama win, we can all start standing on street corners chanting and holding signs - "STOLEN ELECTION, STOLEN ELECTION, STOLEN ELECTION" ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT!!!! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Obama and the attempt to destroy the Second Amendment
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Funny....I don't see anything in the GOP platform about forcing victims of rape to continue the pregnancy to term. What the platform says is this: Maintaining The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity and dignity of innocent human life. We have made progress. The Supreme Court has upheld prohibitions against the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion. States are now permitted to extend health-care coverage to children before birth. And the Born Alive Infants Protection Act has become law; this law ensures that infants who are born alive during an abortion receive all treatment and care that is provided to all newborn infants and are not neglected and left to die. We must protect girls from exploitation and statutory rape through a parental notification requirement. We all have a moral obligation to assist, not to penalize, women struggling with the challenges of an unplanned pregnancy. At its core, abortion is a fundamental assault on the sanctity of innocent human life. Women deserve better than abortion. Every effort should be made to work with women considering abortion to enable and empower them to choose life. We salute those who provide them alternatives, including pregnancy care centers, and we take pride in the tremendous increase in adoptions that has followed Republican legislative initiatives. Respect for life requires efforts to include persons with disabilities in education, employment, the justice system, and civic participation. In keeping with that commitment, we oppose the non-consensual withholding of care or treatment from people with disabilities, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose euthanasia and assisted suicide, which endanger especially those on the margins of society. Because government should set a positive standard in hiring and contracting for the services of persons with disabilities, we need to update the statutory authority for the AbilityOne program, the main avenue by which those productive members of our society can offer high quality services at the best possible value. Many people believe in the exception to no abortions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. Planned Parenthood refuses to work with law enforcement when an under-age, pregnant girl comes to them seeking an abortion. That is statuatory rape...Why does Planned Parenthoon refuse to assist law enforcement in upholding the law and protecting under-age girls? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
John Kirk Singlaub is a highly-decorated former OSS officer and a retired Major General in the United States Army, and a founding member of the Central Intelligence Agency, (CIA). He was a joint founder of the Western Goals Foundation, a conservative private intelligence dissemination network, and is a contributing author to several books, the author of his autobiography as well as numerous articles. Singlaub was born in Independence, California on July 10, 1921.[1] After graduating from Van Nuys High School in 1939 he attended the University of California at Los Angeles and received after graduation his commission as a second lieutenant of infantry on January 14, 1943.[1] Singlaub was parachuted behind German lines in Europe in order to prepare the French Resistance fighters for the D-Day invasion during World War II. He headed CIA operations in postwar Manchuria during the Chinese Communist revolution, led troops in the Korean War, managed the secret war along the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Vietnam, and worked with the Contras in Nicaragua. Active for 40 years in overt and covert operations, he had private and secret interviews with many military and government leaders worldwide. He personally knew William Casey, Director of Central Intelligence during the Reagan Administration, as well as Oliver North, and was involved in the Iran-Contra Affair. Singlaub was founder in 1981 of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The chapter became involved with the Iran-Contra affair,[2] with Associated Press reporting that, "Singlaub's private group became the public cover for the White House operation". [3] The WACL was described by former member Geoffrey Stewart-Smith as "largely a collection of Nazis, Fascists, anti-Semites, sellers of forgeries, vicious racialists, and corrupt self-seekers." [4] U.S. Army General William Westmoreland described Singlaub as a "true military professional" and "a man of honest, patriotic conviction and courage."[citation needed] Congressman Henry J. Hyde, (Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, and Intelligence Committees), described Singlaub as "a brave man, a thorough patriot, and a keen observer" - someone who had been "in the centre of almost every controversial military action since World War II." In 1977, while Singlaub was chief of staff of U.S. forces in South Korea, he publicly criticized President Jimmy Carter's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from the Korean peninsula. On March 21, 1977, Carter relieved him of duty for overstepping his bounds and failing to respect the President's authority as Commander-in-Chief.".[5][6] During his military service, Singlaub was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit with two Oak Leaf clusters, the Bronze Star with Oak Leaf cluster, the Air Medal with Oak Leaf cluster, the Army Commendation Medal, and the Purple Heart. His foreign decorations include the French Croix de Guerre with Palm and Bronze Star devices, British Mention in Despatches oak leaf, as well as decorations from China, the Netherlands, and the Republic of Vietnam. He now lives in Arlington, Virginia. I'd choose to associate with General Singlaub rather than Bill Ayers. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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By the way, are you aware that General John Singlaub served on the board of directors of the United States Parachute Association? If you belong to USPA, does that means you associate with Nazis? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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I wonder if the moonbats will be running around protesting ACORN and talking about "stolen election" this time? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Gee, the noted right-wing extremist, Jimmie Carter also supported this organization. See below: The WACL held annual conferences at various locations throughout the world. Its core activity involved providing financial and material aid to right-wing organizations and anti-communist militias around the globe, notably by providing scholarships for psychological warfare training at the Political Warfare Cadres Academy in Taiwan. However, by the mid-eighties WACL had become the leading non-governmental supplier of arms to anti-communist rebel movements in southern Africa, Central America, Afghanistan and the Far East.[1] It has been alleged but not proven that The League had close ties with the governments of Taiwan under Kuomintang rule, and (to a lesser extent) South Korea. Numerous group participated, including the Unification Church. The WACL also enjoyed support from both the Carter and Reagan administrations in the United States, particularly with regard to its role in Central America,[2] and many US Congressmen, most notably 2008 presidential nominee Senator John McCain (R-AZ), [3][4] who sat on the USCWF Board of Directors in the early 1980s. [5][6] At the 17th Annual WACL Conference held in San Diego, California, John K. Singlaub, president of the WACL's US chapter, read a letter from President Ronald Reagan which said in part, "The World Anti-Communist League has long played a leadership role in drawing attention to the gallant struggle now being waged by the true freedom fighters of our day. Nancy and I send our best wishes for further success ."[1] Singlaub was the former US Chief of Staff of both United Nations and American forces in South Korea, but was relieved in 1977 by US President Jimmy Carter after publicly criticizing Carter's decision to reduce the number of troops on the peninsula. Singlaub became a member of the WACL in 1980, and founded and became president of its US chapter, the United States Council for World Freedom. In 1978, Roger Pearson, became the chairman of the WACL, until he was expelled in 1980 after allegations were made of him having been member of neo-Nazi organizations.[7][8] During the 1980s, the WACL was particularly active in Latin America, notably by aiding the Contra forces in Nicaragua. The WACL produced numerous publications, such as Can the Two Chinas become One? by S.Senese, and D.Pikcunas, (1989). The 21st WACL Conference was held in Geneva, 27-29 August 1988, and was addressed by U.S. Congressmen Richard Armey and George Wortley, and Major-General Singlaub. The League held its 22nd World Conference in Brussels in July 1990. But following the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe in 1990 and 1991, WACL's main purpose, at least in Europe, became less clear. On September 17, 1994, The Irish Times reported that the WACL is now known as the World League for Freedom and Democracy. It is still sponsored by Taiwan and South Korea, and now officially has turned itself to "global affairs, the need for peace initiatives and co-operating with developing countries." Two further reports claim that the World League for Freedom and Democracy is responsible for producing what its opponents call "troops of killers", while ostensibly organizing to provide support for Corazon Aquino from the right-wing in the Philippines (The Village Voice, February 27, 1996), and for supporting the Mozambican National Resistance (RENAMO) movement in Mozambique (The Guardian, August 6, 1994). Heck, I'll sign up! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Ayers made statements to the effect that "I wished had had done more" "done more bombing" as recently as shortly after 9/11/2001. Once a terrorist, doesn't renounce terrorism, still a terrorist! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Drop zones can ensure that their parachuting operation is depicted on sectional charts and that there is a NOTAM filed for skydiving activities during operation. Theoretically, pilots are supposed to use sectional maps to plan their route of flight and check for current NOTAMs. This is part of the required "pre-flight". If pilots do this, then they would know that skydiving operations are in progress and to avoid that airspace. If they monitor ATC or request flight following, ATC would make them aware of active drop zones as well. It is the pilot who just kicks the tires, lights the fires and goes boring holes in the sky that is the problem. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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You are absolutely wrong...and I'm sure that you know it. McCain was exonerated in the Keating 5 mess...as was John Glenn, one of the four Dems. Even Dem lawyer Bob Bennett who headed up the investigation into the Keating 5 said that McCain was innocent. His only "crime" was being the only Republican of the 5 and Congress was not going to allow only Dems to take the fall. I'm sure it is hard to admit the truth of this matter but it is the first step on the road to recovery. Give it a try. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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ACORN Vegas Office Raided in Voter Fraud Investigation ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters has been raided by Nevada authorities looking for evidence of voter fraud. AP Tuesday, October 07, 2008 LAS VEGAS -- Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote. A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN. No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away. Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names. The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Would You Vote For William Ayers For President?
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Well, Kallend, I'm guessing that the wealth and intelligence from your associations hasn't rubbed off on you. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Would You Vote For William Ayers For President?
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The Obama Fan-Dance Must End [Mark R. Levin] As someone who has written critically of John McCain on a host of issues, including the Keating Five, none of it compares to the life that Barack Obama has led and his belief system. Obama is not merely associated with domestic terrorists, Palestinian radicals, Marxists, and black liberation ideologues — he was their favorite candidate. They groomed him. They befriended him. He befriended them. He socialized with them. In other words, these people saw Obama as representing their views and aspirations and he saw them the same way. I am not among those who raise Obama's associations but add "of course, it doesn't mean Obama shares their views." Oh really? These miscreants include Obama's former pastor, political mentors and allies, and friends. Obama attempts to downplay and distance himself from his own circle of allies now that he is running for president. But he is one of them. Obama is getting a pass that no other candidate in my memory has ever received. If John McCain had belonged to a church for 20 years and that church advocated white supremacy and the pastor of the church spewed racist propaganda wrapped in Biblical verses — much of which was caught on video-tape — what would we say? If McCain's good friends included people involved in blowing up abortion clinics instead of the Capitol Building, the Pentagon, and police stations, what would we say? If McCain was socially close to a professor with ties to neo-Nazi groups in Berlin, as opposed to a professor who had ties to the PLO, what would we say? If McCain spent his formative years schooled in fascism as opposed to Marxism, what would we say? Every time Obama's life experiences and character are raised, the response is a diversionary tactic. Today, we're supposed to be impressed with the moral equivalency argument (Ayers = Keating Five), or Obama's associations and friendships aren't what they appear to be, or Obama really isn't like all those people he drew around him, or those raising these issues are guilty of McCarthyism "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Would You Vote For William Ayers For President?
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Say hello to Kathy and Patrick when you next see them. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Would You Vote For William Ayers For President?
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Links? "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Would You Vote For William Ayers For President?
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No? Then why would you vote for a candidate whose political career he helped to launch? On September 11th, 2001, as jets hijacked by terrorists slammed into the World Trade Center, The Pentagon and that field in Pennsylvania, the New York Times published an article citing William Ayers (above) saying “I Don’t Regret Setting Bombs … I Feel We Didn’t Do Enough.” Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.” (Dinitia Smith, “No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives,” The New York Times, 9/11/01) At the time that article came out Barack Hussein Obama was serving on the Board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers. They are neighbors in the fancy Chicago neighborhood where the Rev. Louis Farrakhan also lives. Birds of a feather flock together! Obama and Ayers are more than just casual acquaintances: In 1995, During Obama’s First State Senate Campaign, William Ayers And Wife Bernadine Dohrn Hosted A Meeting Of Chicago Liberals At Their Home For Obama, Which One Attendee Said Was Aimed At “Launching Him.” “In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they’re better known nationally as two of the most notorious — and unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement. … ‘I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,’ said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. ‘[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.’ … Dr. Young and another guest, Maria Warren, described it similarly: as an introduction to Hyde Park liberals of the handpicked successor to Palmer, a well-regarded figure on the left. ‘When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,’ Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. ‘They were launching him — introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.’” (Ben Smith, “Obama Once Visited ’60s Radicals,” The Politico, 1/22/08) From March Of 1995 Until September Of 1997, Obama And Ayers Attended At Least Seven Meetings Together Relating To The Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Board Of Directors Meeting, Minutes Of The Board, 3/15/95, 3/31/95, 4/13/95, 6/5/95, 9/30/97; National Annenberg Challenge Evaluation Meeting, List Of Participants, 5/24/95; Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Chicago School Reform Collaborative Meeting, Minutes, 10/23/96) NOTE: Bill Ayers Was Asked To Help Obama Formulate The Chicago Annenberg Challenge By-Laws. (Chicago Annenberg Challenge Board Of Directors Minutes, 3/15/95) In 1997, Obama Praised Ayers’ Book On The Juvenile Justice System. “The two men were involved in efforts to reform the city’s education system. They appeared together on academic panels, including one organized by Michelle Obama to discuss the juvenile justice system, an area of mutual concern. Mr. Ayers’s book on the subject won a rave review in The Chicago Tribune by Mr. Obama, who called it ‘a searing and timely account.’” (Jo Becker and Christopher Drew, “Pragmatic Politics, Forged On The South Side,” The New York Times, 5/11/08) Obama On William Ayers’ “A Kind And Just Parent: The Children Of Juvenile Court”: “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.” (Chicago Tribune, 12/21/97) “[Obama And Ayers] Have Also Appeared Jointly On Two Academic Panels, One In 1997 And Another In 2001.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08) From 1999 To 2002, Obama Served With Ayers On The Board Of Directors For Woods Fund Of Chicago. (Timothy J. Burger, “Obama’s Chicago Ties Might Fuel ‘Republican Attack Machine’,” Bloomberg, 2/15/08) While Obama And Ayers Were Serving On The Woods Fund Together, Ayers Posed Standing On An American Flag For An Article In Chicago Magazine Entitled “No Regrets.” (Marcia Froelke Coburn, “No Regrets,” Chicago Magazine, 8/01) Neighbors Have Said “It’s Only Natural” That Obama Would Know Ayers, Who Often Opens His Home For Gatherings, As Obama And His Wife “Are A Part Of Our Neighborhood And Part Of Our Social Circle.” said Elizabeth Chandler, a neighbor of Ayers’.” (Trevor Jensen, Robert Mitchum and Mary Owen, “Bill Ayers’ Turbulent Past Contrasts With Quiet Academ ic Life,” Chicago Tribune, 4/17/08) Ayers’ Organization, The Weather Underground, Was A “Violent Left-Wing Activist Group”: “William Ayers … [Was] A Founding Member Of The Group That Bombed The U.S. Capitol And The Pentagon During The 1970s.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08) •Ayers’ Group, The Weather Underground, Is A “Violent Left-Wing Activist Group.” “Senator Obama’s ties to a former leader of the violent left-wing activist group the Weather Underground are drawing new scrutiny as he battles Senator Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.” (Russell Berman, “Obama’s Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny,” The New York Sun, 2/19/08) The Weather Underground Produced A Manual Which Begins, “We Are A Guerrilla Organization. We Are Communist Women And Men, Underground In The United States For More Than Four Years.” “The coalition was said to be a violence-prone faction inspired by the Weather Underground’s ”Prairie Fire,” a guerrilla warfare manual published in 1974. (Paul L. Montgomery, “2 Women In Brink’s Case Identified With Weathermen From Start In ‘69,” The New York Times, 10/ 22/81 "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Thanks. I'm happy that you have come around to my way of thinking! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling
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Obama and the attempt to destroy the Second Amendment
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Way too many times the police do little or nothing...except clean up the crime scene after the boyfriend kills his ex because he ignored the restraining order. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Obama and the home-grown terrorists...not just neighbors.
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"Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party"??? Pretty lame....already debunked just like the story about billing for rape kits, book banning, and the other nonsence. McCain was part of the Keating Five but got a slap on the wrist by Congress...not the "US Government" The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB). The FHLBB subsequently backed off taking action against Lincoln. Lincoln Savings and Loan collapsed in 1989, at a cost of $2 billion to the federal government. Some 23,000 Lincoln bondholders were defrauded and many elderly investors lost their life savings. The substantial political contributions that Keating had made to each of the senators, totalling $1.3 million, attracted considerable public and media attention. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment". All five of the senators involved served out their terms. Only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election, and they both succeeded. McCain would go on to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008. Doesn't seem "to rise to the level of" long association with domestic terrorists, IMO "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
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Actions speak louder than words! His web site can say anything it wants but his history says otherwise! "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Obama and the home-grown terrorists...not just neighbors.
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Ayers-Dohrn-Obama Tie Shouldn’t Be Dismissed As everyone concentrates on Bill Ayers, a bigger story may be Obama's link to Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn. October 6, 2008 - by Bob Owens Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has consistently tried to discount the depth of his relationship with Bill Ayers, one of the founding members of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing terrorist group that formed in 1969 and was most famous for a string of bombings in the 1970s. Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin hammered Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn over the weekend, stating that the Democratic presidential candidate “palled around with terrorists.” Obama campaign manager David Axelrod and other campaign surrogates are now furtively trying to claim today that Obama “didn’t know the history” of Ayers and Dohrn as the leaders of America’s most infamous left-wing terrorist group when Obama met at their home for a political “coming out” in 1995, but their attempt to make pretend that Barack Obama didn’t know of their terrorist past is laughable. By 1995, Barack Obama had known Bill Ayers at least eight years since their shared involvement in the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, if not longer. Bernardine Dohrn, once labeled “the most dangerous woman in America” by none other than J. Edgar Hoover, was also well known as the inspiration for the 1988 movie Running on Empty. Subtle terrorists they were not. As noted in the New York Times, Obama has tried to minimize his relationship with Ayers, dismissing him as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.” Axelrod also tried to excuse the extent of Obama’s involvement with Ayers, stating, “Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. … They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.” It’s an obvious fiction pitched by Axelrod, since the Obama children are presently in elementary school, while Ayers’ children are all grown adults, but the Ayers-Obama family connection doesn’t stop at the imaginary connections between the children. Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers’ wife, has largely escaped recent scrutiny, but that lack of attention doesn’t reduce her role as either a leader — and some may argue, the leader — of the Weathermen. Nor can it mask her ties to both Barack and Michelle Obama. It’s now a family affair. According to a reputable Pajamas Media source that wishes to remain anonymous and knew the Dohrn family, Bernardine Dohrn “always believes the ends justify the means” and is the head of the Ayers-Dohrn household. Dohrn was the violent, arguably pathological Leninist core of the Revolutionary Youth Movement, which led her and allied militants to fight for control of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). The SDS split as a result of the Dohrn-led revolt and the Revolutionary Youth Movement split again, with Dohrn’s faction becoming the Weather Underground. For those of you unfamiliar with Dohrn and her special love of violence in the name of radicalism, one need look no further than her December 1969 rant celebrating the brutal Tate-LaBianca murders with the exhortation, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!” According to Discover the Networks, Dohrn had even less sympathy for those who were on the receiving end of the Weathermen’s violence: A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago “Days of Rage” in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod’s paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song — “Lay, Elrod, Lay.” Dohrn was a principal signatory of a Declaration of War against “AmeriKKKa” — now a standard spelling among far-left radicals — and co-authored Prairie Fire: The Politics of Anti-Imperialism. Dohrn participated in multiple bombings and was accused of planting a bomb at a San Francisco police station that killed an officer and maimed others, according to an FBI informant. Once her days as an active terrorist were over, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by prestigious law firm Sidley & Austin from 1984 to 1988. Dohrn had been hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm and an associate of Thomas G. Ayers, Bill Ayers’ father. It is unclear whether Obama knew the former fugitive Dohrn through Sidley & Austin but there is no doubt that, by the time Obama joined Sidley & Austin as a summer associate, Obama had known Bill Ayers for two years through their involvement in Alliance for Better Chicago Schools. Ayers and Dohrn infamously played host and hostess to Barack Obama’s political “coming out” with a meeting at their home, where outgoing State Senator Alice Palmer tapped Barack Obama to be her handpicked successor. Other direct connections between the Obamas and the Ayers are much harder to discern and have never been thoroughly investigated. In reading Saturday’s New York Times article noted above, a reader might be left with the impression that the terrorist organization headed by Ayers and Dohrn was engaged in little more than pranks, with a deprecating, “Most of the bombs the Weathermen were blamed for had been placed to do only property damage,” starting the solitary paragraph that mentions just three of the group’s specific attacks. That the Weathermen — and specifically Obama fundraising hostess Bernardine Dohrn — were accused of killing an officer in a police station bombing in San Francisco was downplayed, as too was the extent of the carnage planned for the Fort Dix dance terror plot in 1970. That the Weathermen tried to murder a judge and his family with fire bombs was somehow not mentioned at all, nor were later Weathermen-related bombings that occurred through Barack Obama’s continuing political radicalization during the early 1980s. And just where was Barack Obama during the early 1980s? Though the mainstream media has been curiously uninterested in Barack Obama’s undergraduate years, Obama spent two years at Occidental College developing into an activist and then transferred to Columbia University, graduating in 1983. Little more is known about Obama’s time at Columbia and he seems to avoid mentioning it as much as possible. The Columbia University wiki reports that Obama “repeatedly turned down requests to be the Class Day speaker in recent years, as well as general requests to appear from the College Democrats.” Obama finally gave a speech at Columbia on September 11, 2008, but did not take questions from the media. Obama has also turned down repeated requests to release his academic transcripts. What happened during his time at Columbia that caused Barack Obama to be so secretive and hold the school conspicuously at arm’s length? Obama’s Columbia roommate Sohale Siddiqi — called “Sadek” in Dreams from My Father, and whose real name the Obama campaign sought to hide — revealed nothing damaging in an interview he did in May with the Associated Press, furthering the mystery. Two of Obama’s and Siddiqi’s other friends, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, have contributed the maximum individual amount allowed by law to the Obama campaign and the men have become bundlers for the Obama campaign, raising between $100,000 and $200,000 each. The big question unasked by the media is if Barack Obama met Bill Ayers during the time both were in the Columbia University community at the same time that a splinter group of the Weathermen was still actively planting bombs. While the possibility has been suggested in blogs, there does not appear to be any record of any media directly asking Obama if he met Ayers in New York and if such a relationship spurred Obama to travel to Chicago to begin his career as a community organizer. Barack Obama’s first known meetings with Bill Ayers would occur three years after Obama graduated from Columbia, in Chicago in 1987. Ayers was an activist in the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools. Community organizer Barack Obama’s Developing Communities Project was a member of that Alliance. Barack Obama was not eight, but a 24-year-old community organizer in Chicago at the time of the Weathermen’s last attacks, and 29 when many of the last remnants of the Underground in the offshoot May 19th Communist Organization were sentenced to prison in 1990. (Former Weatherman Elizabeth Ann Duke is still a fugitive and wanted by the FBI.) BarackObama.com, the campaign’s official website, offers up a “fact check” that Obama was just eight years old when the Weathermen were active in 1969. The Obama campaign has tried to use the founding date of the Weathermen as a touchstone, claiming that the acts of the group were something that happened “40 years ago” when Obama was a child. Far closer to the truth is the December 6, 1990, sentencing date of Weathermen Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, when the last of the Weathermen were sentenced for their role in a string of bombings in the mid-1980s, including bombs that detonated at the National War College, the Washington Navy Yard Computing Center, the Washington Navy Yard Officers’ Club, New York City’s Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, the Israeli Aircraft Industries Building, New York City’s South African Consulate, and the United States Capitol Building. Barack Obama’s ties to the Weathermen aren’t ties that were 40 years removed from a child’s experiences, but the conscious decision of a young radical to establish a relationship to an infamous terrorist because of shared ideology and interests. Barack Obama never set any bombs. But he’s never had problems with associating with those who did. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling -
Obama and the attempt to destroy the Second Amendment
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Obama and the Attempt to Destroy the Second Amendment October 6, 2008 - by David T. Hardy As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama must demonstrate executive experience, but he remains strangely silent about his eight years (1994-2002) as a director of the Joyce Foundation, a billion dollar tax-exempt organization. He has one obvious reason: during his time as director, Joyce Foundation spent millions creating and supporting anti-gun organizations. There is another, less known, reason. During Obama’s tenure, the Joyce Foundation board planned and implemented a program targeting the Supreme Court. The work began five years into Obama’s directorship, when the Foundation had experience in turning its millions into anti-gun “grassroots” organizations, but none at converting cash into legal scholarship. The plan’s objective was bold: the judicial obliteration of the Second Amendment. Joyce’s directors found a vulnerable point. When judges cannot rely upon past decisions, they sometimes turn to law review articles. Law reviews are impartial, and famed for meticulous cite-checking. They are also produced on a shoestring. Authors of articles receive no compensation; editors are law students who work for a tiny stipend. In 1999, midway through Obama’s tenure, the Joyce board voted to grant the Chicago-Kent Law Review $84,000, a staggering sum by law review standards. The Review promptly published an issue in which all articles attacked the individual right view of the Second Amendment. In a breach of law review custom, Chicago-Kent let an “outsider” serve as editor; he was Carl Bogus, a faculty member of a different law school. Bogus had a unique distinction: he had been a director of Handgun Control Inc. (today’s Brady Campaign), and was on the advisory board of the Joyce-funded Violence Policy Center. Bogus solicited only articles hostile to the individual right view of the Second Amendment, offering authors $5,000 each. But word leaked out, and Prof. Randy Barnett of Boston University volunteered to write in defense of the individual right to arms. Bogus refused to allow him to write for the review, later explaining that “sometimes a more balanced debate is best served by an unbalanced symposium.” Prof. James Lindgren, a former Chicago-Kent faculty member, remembers that when Barnett sought an explanation he “was given conflicting reasons, but the opposition of the Joyce Foundation was one that surfaced at some time.” Joyce had bought a veto power over the review’s content. Joyce Foundation apparently believed it held this power over the entire university. Glenn Reynolds later recalled that when he and two other professors were scheduled to discuss the Second Amendment on campus, Joyce’s staffers “objected strenuously” to their being allowed to speak, protesting that Joyce Foundation was being cheated by an “‘agenda of balance’ that was inconsistent with the Symposium’s purpose.” Joyce next bought up an issue of Fordham Law Review. The plan worked smoothly. One court, in the course of ruling that there was no individual right to arms, cited the Chicago-Kent articles eight times. Then, in 2001, a federal Court of Appeals in Texas determined that the Second Amendment was an individual right. The Joyce Foundation board (which still included Obama) responded by expanding its attack on the Second Amendment. Its next move came when Ohio State University announced it was establishing the “Second Amendment Research Center” as a thinktank headed by anti-individual-right historian Saul Cornell. Joyce put up no less than $400,000 to bankroll its creation. The grant was awarded at the board’s December 2002 meeting, Obama’s last function as a Joyce director. In reporting the grant, the OSU magazine Making History made clear that the purpose was to influence a future Supreme Court case: “The effort is timely: a series of test cases - based on a new wave of scholarship, a recent decision by a federal Court of Appeals in Texas, and a revised Justice Department policy-are working their way through the courts. The litigants challenge the courts’ traditional reading of the Second Amendment as a protection of the states’ right to organize militia, asserting that the Amendment confers a much broader right for individuals to own guns. The United States Supreme Court is likely to resolve the debate within the next three to five years.” (45:17-18; online link; slow). The Center proceeded to generate articles denying the individual right to arms. The OSU connection also gave Joyce an academic money laundry. When it decided to buy an issue of the Stanford Law and Policy Review, it had a cover. Joyce handed OSU $125,000 for that purpose; all the law review editors knew was that OSU’s Foundation granted them that breathtaking sum, and a helpful Prof. Cornell volunteered to organize the issue. (The review was later sufficiently embarassed to publish an open letter on the affair). The Joyce directorate’s plan almost succeeded. The individual rights view won out in the Heller Supreme Court appeal, but only by 5-4. The four dissenters were persuaded in part by Joyce-funded writings, down to relying on an article which misled them on critical historical documents. Having lost that fight, Obama now claims he always held the individual rights view of the Second Amendment, and that he “respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms.” But as a Joyce director, Obama was involved in a wealthy foundation’s attempt to manipulate the Supreme Court, buy legal scholarship, and obliterate the individual right to arms. Voters who value the Constitution should ask whether someone who was party to that plan should be nominating future Supreme Court justices. David T. Hardy has practiced law since 1975. He has five books and thirteen law review articles in print, and blogs at Of Arms and the Law. He's also the producer of the documentary In Search of the Second Amendment. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling