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Not in that particular way I wouldn't. Discussing the content, and adding information, is a better way to discuss than the "nanananananananana until you hear me" technique. Constantly pushing the rules in whatever way you wish is a good way to end up with so much noise that there's no more signal. Is that really a worthy goal? It's like the guy in "Office Space" always coming back to his stapler. Wendy W. Where did you get the nananana? It's supposed to be lalalalalala... Yet indeed you are asking for when contributions and additions are made it is good, then why on earth it is ok for someone to say Bush is a piece of shit Nazi supporter Et al, yet when you point out that they are taking that out of context and put an example of something worse is "pushing" the rules? Yep I got your tactics, but IMO I see them as goodie 2 shoes, and they will not grant you the utopia you seek. Fascism in the context of this thread is that even if you dislike GWB, and all what he stands for, you still have the right to protest, call him whatever names you like, make false documentaries, without the fear of reprisals, which in the end is an antithesis of being part of fascism..... Carry on

Speak for yourself buddy, Most DZ commers I have made personal contact with, have filled out the information correctly, that pretty much puts a face to the poster. If he decides to write as an anonimous person, then he can expect to be treated as a troll. He would create more confidence if he even dare to put on what country he is living at.... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

And that differs from a lot of what's on SC how exactly? Do you really think that posters saying "fuck the queen" is not looking to provoke outrage or discord? It always will. However in the context that the royalty really is a useless one, to maintain riches obtained by the countless murders, rape, slavery, colonization througout the ages, and still consider it respectable, while GWB is called all kind of things, in which also includes he benefited to the riches he made by inheritance of his grandfather wealth made by Nazi's? I would call that fair game. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Again, you don;t know these facts. The victims were PRISONERS, hence the term PRISONER ABUSE. You were basically just wanting to know what is the hardest sentence from a court martial, that was the response, it does not apply to this particular case though.. You need to make up your mind, first you wanted to find out if any one has been charged condemned, then you fail to see how many are still waiting for trial. One got 8 years, the Staff SGT, another got 1 year, another got 30 days, and there are few more waiting for trial. I guess that is not enough for your reversed facts. There has been no murder charges, after the lengthy investigation. Yo need to read yours again, you asked if there has been anyone "Charged" and sentenced....I responded there have. What we don't coincide are the murder charges and your arbitrary 20+ years sentence, based on the facts that you don't seem to know basics of rule of law... Really? Well, let's ask some posters in here and let them contribute on the issue. Yet it is sad indeed that this thread is actually getting more attention instead of the one for Mrs. Hassan. Where is you outrage there? "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Strike 1. Doesn't it bother you that you are not even able to "find" a single link to these claims? Strike 2 Apparently doesn't phase you that you have no proof of murder, but yet you want to convict them of murder?. Strike 3 Once more you fail to see the difference between "LAWSUIT" and CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS. Once you give me a hint that you know what you are talking about, we can continue, until then, carry on... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Just came here to see if you actually filled out your profile....got to go now... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

There is no charge of murder for some reason, there was none, yet you still want more time in jail. You are so biased and hateful to anything US, that it just overflows, you insist in murder charges, and still you have no basic notion about law (where do you get your random 20 years for the offence at hand?). Let me explain this, a lawsuit is someone filing a suit against you, it is no criminal court, no charges are filed, the plaintiffs are seeking a reward-action for a wrong done. Now if you meant Criminal charges as in indicments, and posterior guilty verdicts, then that is another ball game. The hardest has been death by execution. Here is one person. Here is another person, she was convicted of not intervening or not reporting the ABUSE. She has not been tried yet, just charged... I agree with the fact that we can not have an intelligent discussion, particulary after you are unable to get the facts straight. You really impressed me a bachelor's in computer science and not being able to find these links at all? Is that true or you just simply did not want to bother searching? "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

I know, I just was pulling your chain..... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Well I used to wake the morning before the rooster crowed Searching for soda bottles to get myself some dough Brought ’em down to the corner, down to the country store Cash ’em in and give my money to a man named curtis loew Old curt was a black man with white curly hair When he had a fifth of wine he did not have a care He used to own an old dobro, used to play it across his knee I’d give old curt my money, he’d play all day for me (chorus) Play me a song curtis loew, curtis loew I got your drinking money, tune up your dobro People said he was useless, them people are the fools ’cause curtis loew was the finest picker to ever play the blues He looked to be sixty, and maybe I was ten Mama used to whip me but I’d go see him again I’d clap my hands, stomp my feets, try to stay in time He’d play me a song or two Then take another drink of wine. (Chorus) Yes sir On the day old curtis died, nobody came to pray Ol’ preacher said some words, and they chunked him in the clay But he lived a lifetime playin’ the black man’s blues And on the day he lost his life, that’s all he had to lose Play me a song curtis loew, hey curtis loew I wish that you was here so everyone would know People said he was useless, them people all are fools ’cause curtis you’re the finest picker to ever play the blues "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

He had some gas it was not his fault "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Oranges? So that way you can compare apple and oranges... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

I am not judging you. I stated simply an opinion. I have dealt with this many times, and that has not meant acting upon those issues, I accept the facts. As far as the jumping, all I care that everyone is safe, hence got a coach rating. I don't care about politics in the DZ at all. I am just curious as to what in my post came across me being a deity "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Apparently you were not here (SC) while that was being "debated: over here. I did personally stated that he should have answered those questions, otherwise he was a war criminal. Many in here stated that as well. And as far as war operation you seem to have no idea how much effort and stress is dealt by the troops trying to accomodate reporters among them. Still, the issue is that it is being dealt with by the military, and if it merits punishment it will be done and the reporters are among the troops. Those are facts. If you have issues with people stating something you don't like, guess what, you deal with that. I personally have issues with people stating false loyalty, particulary when they embrace US citizenship, but their hearts are in their native land.... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

You were told by whom? There is this film in which he makes the statement himself, you can hear him say I did this and that. The facts still that he never explained this nor his service nor released his service record to the public. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

But hell, that would be too much to ask, right? Look how some Sunni muslims are stating that they are "outraged" about what and where it happened...Not a single mention that these shitheads decided to take positions in that mosque... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

No, he got it from injures suffered.... He never explained what he meant with burning villages, using 50 cal machine to raid innocent civilians, burning huts, firing in no fire zones among other things. But we will know once hell freezes over, or the shitheads win more people sympathetic to their cause. It seems they have a willing supporters among some posters in here. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Alain, there will be plenty of delegates over there that weekend (as Frenchy explained), one of them is a local too, Ellis (skydiveellis), including Frenchy and myself.... We have plenty of jumps scheduled, I'll venture to say ROLLING TUBE!!!!!... Can't wait to get to see that many great people and kick ass DZ. By the one Can anyone PM me Laura Kraus handle at this site? I would like to send her a PM "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

So now you are a judge, and now the sentencing guidelines? You couldn't find any link? Hmm, so weird, since you have some computer experience background according to your claims, but still can help you find a few. 1) clicky 2) clicky 3) Clicky "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

And where is Tuna has he been banned? "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

It is sad indeed, but I can't help to see the irony that a US soldiers kills a wounded COMBATANT, and everyone is on his case, even when he is already under investigation. In four hours that thread got 135 posts, this one hardly made anything more than 18 in double the time. Some in here will actually give these shitheads the benefit of doubt, and even think they hope they won't commit the stupidity of killing an innocent and helpful victim.... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

My sweatheart and I...Last weekend. And after a summer jump...... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

No, not really. Based on numerous instances, 9/11, Iraq, etc, the muslim world has been bombarded with fake news, to the order of "9-11, jewish conspiracy", "arafat's death, Israeli induced", and they tend to believe it. So it does not make a difference at all.... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

It does not make it right. But insinuation of "slap on the hand", when actually military investigation-court martial is a very serious business is quite laughable. The irony in the story is that no one points out the tactics used by these terrorist by hiding behind sacred places frequented by innocents, nor the way of life they are trying to defend. Why don't these reporters go to Iran and start filming-reporting every day life for women down on those countries where Islam is the law of the land..... Botellines just google up what is being done with those abusers at abu ghraib......it has been more than what you claim it was IMO...... I guess it is ok that they can go into a elementary school and wipe out children and teachers, yep, that is so cool...... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Apparently you have not read any news in a while....Go check AQ-Jihad types terrorist attacks-threats in the aforementioned countries. Google them, there should be plenty. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

Hey! no personal attacks! "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon