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So, what you are getting as is, according to you... it may take a millennium for the chemicals (ones in which you won't say which are a/the problem(s) - "leave that to the experts? - shaking head") to possibly migrate to the ground water above... so we shouldn't do it, unless we can prove it won't, when we have no way to test that. Interesting logic. Which has nothing to do with what has been discussed.

If, you agree... what am I conveniently ignoring?

Why do you continue to not address my questions or statements, go silent, and then when someone posts something stupid, or in this case, not really furthering the discussion... you instantly reply, but continue to remain silent on the actual issues and never finish your arguments?

I'd like to hear this as well... New Thread though.

Judging by your comments in this thread.... There seems to be a great deal of fundamental geology that you seem to be blissfully unaware of. So what does fracking fluid contain ? So, you're a systems admin, and I'm a paramedic; neither are geologists... yet to make your point, you post a diagram of something I learning in 3rd/4th grade "Earth Science" class. So then, why don't you show me you have done more self study and actually make a case, instead of posting the mockery of an argument as you have. While throughout this thread, neither you or Quade will/can even say which of the chemicals posted in this thread so far, that you (personally) have a problem with. You are both full of it.

TB was not only, "not ready", it did not work... and privacy protections were never a desire. The NSA wanted content... they didn't want a program that functioned as ThinThread did. Not to mention, "9/11 was a gift for the NSA." Billions upon billions began flowing into the NSA, and programs like TB and others, gave them what they wanted, and kept the money flowing. If ThinThread were in place, 9/11 would have been prevented. None of these are my words... and there are two more whistle blowers that I haven't even mentioned yet, who were also arrested at gunpoint as Drake and Binney were.

It's not only common sense, it's scientific fact. The only thing that is debatable is the time scale and the dilution factor. There is no magic involved. So tell me again how millions of tons of unknown chemicals will magically stay there forever... http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/watercycle.html If you wanted to insult my intelligence, you may as well have post this instead. And once again... unknown chemicals?

Yeah, ya need to go do some homework. Maybe watch some videos of those two men speaking. They were even on Democracy Now! This is about the capturing and storing of content. William Binney - "We know how to catch bad guys, and we can do it without violating the 4th."

Yeah, ya need to go do some homework. Maybe watch some videos of those two men speaking. They were even on Democracy Now! This is about the capturing and storing of content.

This is ridiculous. And I continue to not understand why people use such odd examples to try to prove points, let alone pull stupid crap like this out of your ass. No, its not common sense that water, sand and chemicals (that Quade won't state which he has a problem with), a mile down, will magically migrate upward. If science "is on your side", then figure out the cause and effect and prove its unsafe, and I will be right there with you to stop it.

I already left, faster than the door could hit my ass on the way out. But I do take an interest in the issue as I have close family and friends in Pennsylvania and I return often to visit. Regarding your question regarding undrinkable water, I think at this point it doesn't matter what evidence I provide because like I said, we will choose who and what we want to believe for our reasons. That being the case, I don't think this is an honest and open discussion, nor was it from the start -- just look at your first few responses in this thread regarding bullshit, skeet skeet etc. Then again, this is SC. So to humor you, I've provided a couple of links for you to choose from. Clean air and drinking water in PA is my motivation, so I believe everyday people whose rural communities have been suddenly turned into industrial zones against their will. You believe others for your reasons such as national security and not depending on the middle east for energy; that's fine. You know what I believe and why I do, so you can call me a stupid liberal, pile on the laughing icons or post a dismissive scoff; have fun. Dimock, PA or Dimock, PA. Pavillion, WY or Pavillion, WY. Well Good... so you are an American from PA, living in Swiss? I don't know why you keep saying that... I have been very vocal, repetitively, about how and why I speak to Quade as I do; given his past arrogance's. I did not address your statements as I address Quade... and I read everything you wrote and watched the video you posted twice. As for the rest of your comments in P3, I think you need to re-read my comments again. I'm not sure what points you are trying to make with these articles... I read the first two... they are extremely similar to the other I already addressed in full, and could pull out similar statements in each showing the same issues and same outcomes. Read half of the third and all of the last... I'll have to come back to the third, but I see where they are going. And yes, as I said previously... for Obama to be "doing something about Climate Change" and wanting to do so much with NG, is ridiculous. Its not cleaner... What points are you trying to make? Everything I said previously applies to these articles as well.

So you're saying that wiretapping US citizens, with privacy standards in place, would reduce terrorist attacks, but for some reason removing those privacy standards renders the same information useless against terrorists? That makes no sense. I have no clue what you are talking about... but so help me God, if this collection of words has something to do with Wikipedia, I'm gonna call you a crack baby.

It's not BS, it's true. If we shut the NSA down entirely, the risk of attack will go up. How much? No one knows, but it's silly to say that it won't. I'm personally willing to accept that risk to increase freedom. Many are not. I find that sad, but it's true. NSA Program: ThinThread... 3 Million Dollars. Would have stopped 9/11/2001. Do Some Homework... William Binney and Thomas Drake, to start.

Absolute and Massive BS - Just Fact; not criticizing you. ThinThread - William Binney - "We know how to catch bad guys, and we can do it without violating the 4th." This is 100% Bush's Fault. And its human nature for Obama to not only continue it, but because of his ideas (Communist Mentor), perfectly reasonable to expect him to expand it. And God help us if Jeb Bush is next.

And how about that list...? Or did I cover all the issues?

Go for it. Enjoy yourself. I edit my mistakes as soon as I see them. I also update a post if I have an additional thought that occurs to me after I send it. I also wake up in the middle of the night, get out of bed, hop on my laptop and will add a single word to a project I've been working on for years. Big whoop. However ...not really in this thread, but in others... editing your posts as much as you do can often make it appear you say things, and then take them back. The less someone edits their posts, the less it appears they like to say things, and take them back... which I HAVE seen you do.

Government collusion with business for profit is exactly what is happening with fracking in the US. Pennsylvania is an example, and since I have strong ties to that state, I take a strong interest in the issue. I think this debate is largely about who people choose to trust and what their motivations are. I tend to trust residents in rural communities whose water supplies have been coincidentally turned undrinkable post-fracking; I find them far more credible than oilmen in business suits with a battery of lawyers, PR professionals and politicians standing behind them. Undrinkable from what? Where? And if you don't like what a state is doing, you can move... that's part of the Constitutional setup; you can escape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_lRg8MsB0k You're Still Wrong. This thread, the Congressional Hearings, Fox News, and the rest of the MSM... ...You're Killin' Me Smalls!

Along with any further discussion of Racist Progressives (and I'd like it if we could stick with the pre-name change name --> liberal --> Hillary - "Modern Progressive")... its all Progressivism: How is the first of the four Tea Party Principles, "Follow the Constitution", considered to be CrackaAss Racism; and/or like that of Jim Crow laws? And again... I am not a member of the Tea Party.

How about that list, from my first post?

Johnson blocked it... then, President, Johnson got credit for it. Racist Douche as well.

I am speaking about legislative decisions based on emotion, illogical overreactions... the Constitution is framed specifically to prevent that.

For one week... when you are about to hit send, I want you to read your post, one more time, first. I'm gonna start a thread... Days Since Quade's Last Edit. I'm just busting your chops, dude. I have ADD and ADHD, Severely, so throughout grade school, I had to train myself to think before I speak. So its funny to me, with that in mind.

CrackaAss!

This post is killin' me... I swear. However, you were wrong... I read every word the first time, and again right now. Care to elaborate? You aren't using medical terminology at all... so, curious what you actually studied.