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+1 - Wow... billvon, making common sense statement. Shocking!

Right... so then why would you thing a Single payer system would be better, when England is currently ending theirs? (Which started because of Rationing in WWII)

So then, what was your treatment? Were you intubated? Still don't see how a chest X-ray and a ct scan costs $4500.

"Donut" You mean a CT scan? Cause if so... to be billed 4500... you'd have to be run through ~4.5 times, and that's not experimental. "Injected something" Barium Sulfate? CT Dye... Nor would that be the first thing ordered if you went to an ER for the problem. You would get a chest X-ray and if you had that bad of a case of pneumonia, it wouldn't be necessary to do a CT. That doesn't make sense... Edit to Add: UHC does suck... and MD offices screw up. Good job on the personal responsibility!

What is your Specialty?

No... if we properly fixed the problems that we do have, not with government bureaucracy and idiotic regulations... Health Insurance would be affordable. And we need to end Employment Based Health Insurance.

What are you talking about...? Sounds like made up bull shit to me. Pneumonia is easily detectable on a standard chest X-ray. (Cheap) I think you are full of shit, and your shoulder story too. Care to elaborate on your shoulder surgery story...? Last person to pull this crap (loud and annoying protests with few and sketchy details) refused to post or answer PMs after I put him on the spot. (Bolas's Education Thread)

No... Its not. Its one of many problems... and the solution is not a 2k+ page bill which creates an enormous bureaucracy on top of the already out of control bureaucracy that we already have.

Do you know who gave us, this current system, of Employment Based Health Insurance?

What is "your dog eat dog conservative lifestyle."

LIKE, OH MY GOSH... YOU ARE SO RIGHT! If we could just let all the wicked intelligent government elitist tell us what to do and how to live... everything would be fine. We could have Sunshine and Lolly Pops for everyone! I mean... why did they even bother with this step, they should have just gone right back to pushing for the Second Bill of Rights. Bill Maher is so freaking smart too. He's totally right also... Americans are all stupid. It would be so much better if we had a Dictator like China, so we can Get Stuff Done in this STUPID COUNTRY! Lol. What a cluster fuck of a thread. I mean seriously...

Soon Enough!

Yeeeeeah... not really. Cardiac vs Heartburn... is pretty easy to rule out. A patient with no cardiac history nor major risk factors, will get a 12 lead EKG (Cheap), basic blood panels (including cardiac enzymes - Cheap) and a GI cocktail (usually Mylanta and/or other) including lidocaine (Cheap). If GI related, symptoms change pretty quickly. Right Doc?

Does that vary from ER to ER? Because I've read some stuff that makes it sound like a significant impact to some ERs Wendy P. Yeah... mind elaborating? Having spent the last 4 years working in a local community ER, that's kind of a broad statement... You turfin GOMERS Doc!?!?!?

Nice to see the fourth branch of government doing their job.

You know damn well, that was not put in place to allow illegal aliens to cross the border and then have a baby to obtain citizenship for the child. Manipulation of the Constitution/system. That too needs to be changed. I don't hate legal Hispanic migrant workers

The DREAM act... what a joke. Go to school for two years and you can be an American. Are you kidding me?

Well... yeah, partly. That's worded closer to personal responsibility. Its... Natural Rights. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men The Government does not exist to tell you what to do or how to live, or to create new regulations... it exists, ONLY, to protect your rights, that come from God. Justice - The Law... is fully based on, God's Law... Natural Law. If your rights come from God... if your life comes from God. Than who owns your body after God? You. That... is a Founding Principle. So... under a Federalist system. Where the Federal government is created by the States. Not a National Government. (We are nearly functioning as a National Government) National Government - Top Down - Full Ability to Regulate Anything Articles of Confederation - A mess - too weak - No central power. Federal Government - Only 16 powers... weak central control.... INTENTIONAL WEAK CENTRAL CONTROL There are only 16 powers enumerated to the Federal Government. All other powers, fall to the States: as long as they do not interfere with Federal Law under those 16 powers, nor violate, Gods Law. That is why you can have universal healthcare in Massachusetts... Go For It! State universal health care - Legal Federal universal health care - Illegal. Federal Drug Laws... Illegal!!!!!!! State Drug Laws.... Legal. 68% of Alaska consists of "Dry Counties". Localities that have passed laws against alcohol (learned from Alaska State Troopers, not Sarah Palin. ) The idea is... that you can vote with your feet. If a local community (where the Founders wanted Power to reside, with the people, locally) wants to ban alcohol... they can. If you want to drink. MOVE! Vote with your feet. It is the idea that if one state is being run by Idiots, (California) you can leave. If you are a business owner, and the state you are in increases taxes 70%, you can leave. But if the Federal government raises business taxes 70%... YOU... ARE... SCREWED! It is the fear of central power. Power corrupts... Absolute power corrupts absolutely. NO... nowhere in the constitution, does it specifically say that you have the right to drink alcohol. However, the Federal government can not ban it... without Amending the constitution, as they did. However, if you own your body... than you can do anything with it or put anything in it you please. And in the process of repealing an Amendment... it is crossed out, never erased, to remind us of the scars of the past. The Founders knew the American people were good people at heart, and that they would make mistakes, but they would eventually get it right. With the amendment process things can be changed, legally, if they are needed to be changed as times change. THEY DID NOT... want the constitution to be reinterpreted, nor develop precedents off those reinterpretations. Using the commerce clause for healthcare, is manipulation of the constitution. The commerce clause exists so the Federal Government can protect states, under the law, in dealing with each other. During the days of the Articles of Confederation... states WERE cheating other states. It was a mess! To regulate commerce between states...means to uphold the law. Regulate, to our Founders... meant, to maintain regularity... under the law... to maintain the law. The government exists to protect God given rights. Justice, under the law... is an unalienable rights. And if anyone disagrees with the definition of, Regulate... as I stated. Please, tell me what the second definition of Happiness is, as i spoke about previously. Nancy Pelosi.... is a liar. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3980210;search_string=pursuit%20of%20happiness;#3980210 excellent post Grazi I like how Billvon and Quade completely ignored my post... Cause the thing is... with what I said, the majority of issues in this thread.. Do, Not, Matter. Because its for states to decide. Not the Federal Government.

Illegal Alien... not allowed to be in the country. Child of Illegal Alien... not allowed to be in the country. Deportation... Can you explain to me how this is more complicated? I live in Virginia. No, I do not want to pay for children of Illegal Aliens to go to school.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=hd6UaGytyt Dem. Rep.: ‘Pursuit of Happiness’ Lies... EDIT TO ADD: This Democrat doesn't seem to agree...

Well... yeah, partly. That's worded closer to personal responsibility. Its... Natural Rights. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men The Government does not exist to tell you what to do or how to live, or to create new regulations... it exists, ONLY, to protect your rights, that come from God. Justice - The Law... is fully based on, God's Law... Natural Law. If your rights come from God... if your life comes from God. Than who owns your body after God? You. That... is a Founding Principle. So... under a Federalist system. Where the Federal government is created by the States. Not a National Government. (We are nearly functioning as a National Government) National Government - Top Down - Full Ability to Regulate Anything Articles of Confederation - A mess - too weak - No central power. Federal Government - Only 16 powers... weak central control.... INTENTIONAL WEAK CENTRAL CONTROL There are only 16 powers enumerated to the Federal Government. All other powers, fall to the States: as long as they do not interfere with Federal Law under those 16 powers, nor violate, Gods Law. That is why you can have universal healthcare in Massachusetts... Go For It! State universal health care - Legal Federal universal health care - Illegal. Federal Drug Laws... Illegal!!!!!!! State Drug Laws.... Legal. 68% of Alaska consists of "Dry Counties". Localities that have passed laws against alcohol (learned from Alaska State Troopers, not Sarah Palin. ) The idea is... that you can vote with your feet. If a local community (where the Founders wanted Power to reside, with the people, locally) wants to ban alcohol... they can. If you want to drink. MOVE! Vote with your feet. It is the idea that if one state is being run by Idiots, (California) you can leave. If you are a business owner, and the state you are in increases taxes 70%, you can leave. But if the Federal government raises business taxes 70%... YOU... ARE... SCREWED! It is the fear of central power. Power corrupts... Absolute power corrupts absolutely. NO... nowhere in the constitution, does it specifically say that you have the right to drink alcohol. However, the Federal government can not ban it... without Amending the constitution, as they did. However, if you own your body... than you can do anything with it or put anything in it you please. And in the process of repealing an Amendment... it is crossed out, never erased, to remind us of the scars of the past. The Founders knew the American people were good people at heart, and that they would make mistakes, but they would eventually get it right. With the amendment process things can be changed, legally, if they are needed to be changed as times change. THEY DID NOT... want the constitution to be reinterpreted, nor develop precedents off those reinterpretations. Using the commerce clause for healthcare, is manipulation of the constitution. The commerce clause exists so the Federal Government can protect states, under the law, in dealing with each other. During the days of the Articles of Confederation... states WERE cheating other states. It was a mess! To regulate commerce between states...means to uphold the law. Regulate, to our Founders... meant, to maintain regularity... under the law... to maintain the law. The government exists to protect God given rights. Justice, under the law... is an unalienable rights. And if anyone disagrees with the definition of, Regulate... as I stated. Please, tell me what the second definition of Happiness is, as i spoke about previously. Nancy Pelosi.... is a liar. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3980210;search_string=pursuit%20of%20happiness;#3980210

Anyone... Who OWNS your body? Less broad: You or the Government?

Who owns your body?

Actually, that's not true at all. There are, in fact, procedures to change any part of the US Constitution or any one of the Amendments including the first ten. Sorry... Wrong. Read Thomas Jefferson writings in the Library of Congress. Wrong.

The Bill of Rights does not grant us our rights, it specifies which rights may not be taken away under any circumstance short of Constitutional amendment. The Constitution does not grant us rights.