ZigZagMarquis

Eeeeuuuuuuuuwwwwweeeeee!!!!

... and you call yourself a skydiver. Turn in your USPA license!

No! Pops is trying to subvert and liberalize the Beer Rules! ... but that is a different topic.

Still on authenticated picture(s)!!!! ... she didn't used to dance at the Hide-away in Elsinore, did she?

Please, do not feel picked on, but "Yes" it will. Again... your mission... if you choose to accept it... is to get with a rigger or experienced skydiver at your home DZ this weekend and have them go over a hands-on demo for you showing you how to removed and replace your D-Bag/Bridle/Pilot Chute assembly on your rig / main.

hmmmm... will have to start looking through Peckerhead Pics from the 05 Meat... you didn't get inducted into the Peckerheads, did you?

This thread is yet another example of there's nothing more dangerous than drunk bored skydivers.

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couldn't find any in... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2966309;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; She's not the one that downed a bottle of Tequlia at a DZ in a City in the desert in California, gave the pizza guy a "special tip" when he delivered the pizza, passed out, threw up on herself and then we tossed her in the shower... that Lisa?

... I must be getting old... when I came up, I was told that "back in the day" an "Electric" what-ever way was everyone on the load droped acid before the jump...

Potential damage to your D-bag and/or canopy and/or your kill-line pilot chute de-cocking itself, sure, but in reality, your D-Bag/bridle/pilot chute doesn't even have to be attached to your main to still work... if you don't mind chasing it down after ever jump.

Pic (of LisaH) Please!!!

Jerry, PRose, et all, I've seen the key-ring thing done too and it works as long as you have a decent quality key-ring as PRose points out. I've seen Slinks used to attach the bridle to the top of the canopy. I keep meaning to try this on one of my rigs. I wonder though if a Slink would have enough ass to it if used at the inside top of the D-Bag vs. a speed link (F-link) to keep from being pulled through the grommet on the D-bag at opening? Over the years, I've gone through enough Jim Cazer pilot chutes that I've got a small collection of extra speed links (you get 2 new with each of his pilot chutes) hanging on a loop on one of the zippers on my gear bag. I won't use them on risers / suspension lines (I will use new (good) ones, just not these old used ones I got with pilot chutes), but a few extra are handy to have around when someone needs to hook a D-bag / bridle to a main or looses one off of their kill-line set up like its sounds like divermom had happen.

That's 2 Cases of Beer!!!! Oh, come on. That's not fair!

So I guess you had a hesitation. How did you fix it, or did it just fix itself? Well, ya can look over your shoulder to break the burble and deal with the asymetric line stretch as the pilot chute takes off. However, the "better plan" is to always positvely throw your pilot chute... a lazy throw can result in a pilot chute hesitation... I've had pilot chutes flop in my burble, smack me in the back of the head and then take off... that will wake you up!

Last, but not least... That's 2 Cases of Beer!!!!

Possibly. I'm more of a one hand per handle kinda guy. That will work. I was taught something similar / look over your shoulder. However, with some of the newer / higher performance canopies, looking over your shoulder on deployment can cause asymetric line stretch which can cause some real interesting openings... but it beats hitting the ground with nothing out.

... anyway Sounds like you lost the speed link (french link) that goes on the inside of the bag, without which, you're correct, your pilot chute won't stay cocked. I've found the one on my rigs loose from time to time. I make it a habbit to check it... should probalby check it every pack-job, but in reality, I probably do it once a weekend... its a good excuse to lay on your canopy and rest while fidlin' with your D-bag, birdle, pilot cute, etc. while packing at the end of the day. If you haven't yet... have a rigger or experienced skydiver you trust and who knows how to... show you how to removed and reinstall your D-Bag, Kill-Line Pilot Chute, birdle assembly on your your main sometime when y'all hae it un-packed. I know the BSRs and some others opinions differ... so take this for what its worth, just one man's opinion... but my "plan" is "I know" my main pilot chute is out, but nothing after that is happening, I'm pulling the cut-away and then the reserve, to avoid the afore mentioned 2-out situation. If I am sure my pilot chute is not out of its pocket yet (i.e. I haven't tried to deploy it) and I opt for Silver, then and only then would I go straight Silver and not cut-away first. Again... just MY plan.

If you don't take your hand away and put it back, its not two tries! JUST KIDDING!!!!!

Still confused here... Soooo... you're saying you towed your pilot chute for a bit, but then it drug your main out and you landed your main uneventfully from there? That being so... yeah, been there, done that, yepers, it will get the blood moving, but not quite a high speed mal if it didn't, well, mal. Anyway, do you jump a kill-line pilot chute? If yes, I'm sure someone has already mentioned about making sure its cocked... especially if you just had a packer pack it.

Ummmm... then it almost wasn't a mal then...

Congrats! BEER!!!!

As I stated earlier, the photo already does that. The tail section did not separate in flight. You are looking at, pretty much, the entire crash site. Note the location of the left wheel and the right wing. And I don't disagree with that. To satisfy my own curriosity though, I would like to see more extensive photos of the crash site and also to include aerial photos with references to both N/S/E/W and some indication of scale. As well as, when its all said and done, I'd be currious to read the NTSB's "full" report or "file" on the investigation, findings, conclusions and supporting evidence for said conclusions... I gotta believe they put together a much more comprehensive report on any (all) mishaps they investigate that is longer and more in-depth then what appears as a "Final" report on the www.ntsb.gov website. Am I entitled to seeing such information... I'd suppose I could get it via the freedom of information act, but do I really need to... well, that's a different discussion. Again, while I don't disagree with y'all, I guess too I just don't "see" as much in that one photo as y'all do and I know I don't have all that much faith in press reports in general.