diverdriver

I can feel the love.

Wait...me?.....or her? belongs in this thread? I'm nuttin special.

You have got to be joking. I don't believe you.

I would too. No doubt. But I don't think he will run. I'd bet that he is concerned about his life expectancy if he was elected. edit to add: its too not two...i mean to....no....ugh...... Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

November 1st.

Not confused. But they can see jumpers on radar given the right circumstances. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Could we please find the fool still teaching people the 45 degree rule THAT DOESN'T WORK and flog them? Please? sssbc99...who taught you this 45 thing? You can PM it to me rather than posting it out loud. But we need to know who is spreading this crap because it's damn dangerous. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Self Responsibility says it all.

Yah, and it rocked! Really cool to get to do something special like that. I was worried they wouldn't get to see it because of the completely blue sky but it was dry enough that you could see the formation well from the ground. And of course we opened on the opposite side of the concert area from the landing area so we got to all fly over the top (at appropriate altitudes of course ) and land. Great video done by Ron Olsen with a great shot of the formation cropped with the concert in the near background. Way cool! I hope we can get a small file size version of that pic so we can post it here. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Ummm....that would be the 20 (or was it 22) way hybrid at Skydive Chicago done at Summerfest 2003! Was really an awesome sight. I suggest you look for pictures some time. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

DOH!!!!!

Take Luck!!!!

And they say skydiving is dangerous? Was funny to hear how the ambulance people told you that your lunch hour was over and they were taking you back to work! (by the way she works at the hospital they took her to) Any pictures of the car yet?

I answered with the first choice. I have over 300 jumps without any sort of AAD on my rig. However, I can afford a Cypres now and I choose to always have it on for every jump I make now. If it's installed on my rig, it will be turned on. I may in the future again make a jump without a Cypres but don't know what that situation may be. If I'm on the ride up and realize my Cypres is turned off I'll just have to evaluate my situation then and decide whether to ride the plane down or not. If I'm doing 10-way practice I might likely (not sure) ride the plane down. I've seen a highly experienced 10-way team have a member slammed into the back wall and knocked loopy so it can happen to even the best teams. He dropped to the floor and we grabbed him to keep him from rolling out the door. We made him ride the plane down then because his eyes were making circles in different directions for a short time. Accidents happen whenever they happen. You don't get to pick and choose when they happen. So I'll choose to have the Cypres on my rig for any jump I make for the forseeable future. If nothing else, it's a great data collector for the accident investigators to determine some aspects of the jump. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Condolences to you all. That's a real shame that happened. Take care and be with friends. Strength in numbers. You know. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Aircraft that have autopilots that can land the plane are not common. They are usually airliners. And those airliners have two pilots as it is. Mostly the regulation about having an autopilot is that you are flying in a single pilot situation. It is mostly used for cruise flight and is hardly ever certified for auto-land. And I don't know of a single pilot that is legal to land in zero zero so the auto-pilot IS required to land the plane in those cases. So yah, they are device dependant if they want to land in those conditions. And they certainly don't seem to have a problem letting the computer do it. It is more accurate and able to make fine corrections than the human can solely by the instruments. So, really, there is no problem because that is exactly what is happening. We pilots aren't allowed to do it. We have to let the computer land in the poorest of ceiling and visibility conditions. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

And they lived?

Two tandems students walk in to SDC and look at the nice pretty otters sitting in the hanger. One says to the other "Oh, I thought we were jumping from a big plane." I had to walk away before I said something stupid about "size doesn't matter" or something! Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Alan, I kinda thought that's where you were going with that. If you had just added the comment "where would he have been grouped?" It would have been more clear. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Happy birthday Chuck!

And that's what I'm trying to point out. There is a chance. This pilot had his tail ripped off completely and was able to crawl to the back, get the door open again, and get out. The distance from cockpit to door is about the same in the King Air as the Caravan. So I think the comparison is good. Is the likelyhood of it happening high? No. But, with any plane that has a low horizontal that can scoop up a premature deployment in the doorway you should wear an emergency rig. As for how many pilot already wear an emergency bailout rig while flying King Airs I don't know. But then, you could be a trend setter and show the others whats what. Remember, it only takes one time for you to look like a genius for wearing one. During the 300-way flights in December we all wore emergency bailout rigs and we're flying planes larger and longer than the King Air. If we had a midair and the plane was fataly crippled we might have a chance. Not wearing a rig may guarantee your fate. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

You know, I'm pretty adiment about saying I hate country music. But that only applies to new country I guess. I always liked listening to Johnny Cash. Good music is just that. Good music. I hummm "Ring of Fire" often. Don't know all the words. But I know I like the song. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Then you haven't read my list of Jump Plane Accidents. There are serveral there that the pilot made his first jump ever on an emergency rig. And then there is the case of the Caravan pilot at Nagambie, Australia who started wearing an emergency chute while flying a Caravan just weeks before a premature deployment ripped the tail off the plane. Anyone that says they won't wear it because they just won't be able to get out is kidding themselves. It just might be possible. You'll never know if you don't wear it. This pilot did. He was able to bail at approximately 1,500 feet AGL and get an open chute at or below 1,000 AGL. Never say never. I think all King Air and Caravan pilots should all consider wearing an emergency bailout rig. I know that's a tough sell though. Go take a read at the link above. You might be amazed. One happened just last YEAR Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

You sure? Sure does look like a Skyvan to me. And the Sherpa is not a Shorts 360/330. It's similar to a Shorts 330 but is designed specificily for the military. The Shorts 360 is very different in appearance since it does not have the twin vertical stabs like the Shed and 330. Here's a head on pic of a Shorts 330. Comapre it to the picture on the bogus TSC site. I still say that picture is a skyvan on there. It has the tell-tale "hump" that the van has and the 330 does not have. The 330 has a more curved upper hull. Another PHOTO shows the front. Note the wing struts come to the wheel covers rather than the body. The Skyvan has open wheels. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Exactly! I've been in the Chicago area since 1997 and I'm completely lost listening to the radio reports to this day!