diverdriver

Yes, and to be honest, those words have come out of my mouth too at some points. I've had friends raise concern about things I was doing. I tried never to brush them off. Well, this one guy who threatened to beat my face to a pulp. I didn't listen to him much. I just banned him from getting in my plane again. Not a good situation because I didn't learn much from all that really other than to watch my back when he was around. Anyway, we don't say things like this because we want to keep people down or stifle their progression. I look to the champion acrobactic pilots. They certainly didn't start flying Extra400s right away. They started acrobactic flying with an instructor with them all the time in Citabras or Aerobat 150s. There is a progression and there needs to be an understanding that when you go off the norm you need extra instruction. If even after you receive extra instruction people might still say "that's not for you yet". Listen to them. It seems that some DZs in Florida are not as confident in this persons canopy control from direct observation. So they have a couple options. Get more education and training and work directly with a reputable instructor. Or, downsize to a lighter wingload and put about the next 200 jumps on it. Then, think about it again and move on. Oh, that John Kennedy Jr. guy? He lost control of his aircraft and took out 2 other lives with him. Was one of the only times he flew that complex Saratoga without an instructor by his side. I wonder with all his "time" if he was really the one making decisions (PIC) or just driving the boat till told to turn. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Bad clicky.

I'd say no, you need to go with an instructor and fly it on bad days with a x-wind and low ceilings and get more hood time or actual time with an instructor cuz eventually you are gonna find yourself there so you better know what you are going to do before hand. Edit to add: OH, and does the name John Kennedy Jr. mean anything to you? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

DUDE!!!

Actually, it was the "V" tail Beech 35 that was called the "V Tail Doctor Killer". It was the latest and greatest in personal aircraft. It had all the bells and whistles that a cockpit panel could hold. Now, who can afford such a craft? Many were doctors (lawyers too). Doctors tend to have a "God complex" meaning they have achieved a certain level of status and respect in the community being that they know so much about the human body and heeling. This flying stuff is just kids play. Well, many, many Doctors (and their families) learned the hard way and were killed. The aircraft was just too much for their skill level. Now granted, had they taken more lessons or had a different mind set about flying it they might have done better. But the training in those times did not seem to keep up with the complexity of the situation. And that is what we are talking about here. Not calling any jumper stupid or unable to learn. But their has to be a natural flow to the progression. Taking large leaps in downsizing / changing wing planform will likely put you in the corner. Since several DZs have banned this person they have given up on teaching. It seems they no longer feel this person is listening to what they have to say on the subject so they are limiting their liability. Now, more than ever, is when that jumper needs to have instruction on what to do and when. But, if they are hell bent on not listening, there would be a point where I'd walk away too and say "If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough." I see railroad tracks. I hear the horn of the train. My friend stands on the track. I know the train can not go around or stop before hitting my friend. I will ask my friend to step off the tracks. I will then plead with my friend to step off the tracks. I will consider diving and knocking my friend off the tracks. But in the end, I may have to turn away and not watch my friend be run over by the train that approaches. How do I know there is a train and a set of tracks? Cuz I've been there before. Seen it. Heard it. I am trying to give you the benifit of my experience. Please listen. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Ever had a sharp stick in the eye? Yes.

It's much better than a sharp stick in the eye.

Because I have been around the block a few more times than you have. I know what it is to instruct jumpers in canopy control and flying airplanes. Because I have experience doing this I know how humans react in flight training. And yes, they can most of the time handle more complex aircraft (read canopies) when everything is going normal. It's when they get in the corner for whatever reason (not just hook turns but long spots and such or out landings) that they get themselves hurt. So do you want to make that newbie mistake that most people do in the beginning at 15 miles per hour or do you want to make that newbie mistake that most people do in the beginning at 60 miles per hour? One, you will walk away from likely. The other, you will probably get killed. Roughly 9 years in this sport and I've seen a lot of 100 jump wonders. They were all convinced that they were "ahead" of the curve in canopy control. It's human nature. It's pilot nature. We need look no further than aircraft pilot training to see what humans do in the air. No need to reinvent the wheel in training. We do need to cover all aspects of how to fly each canopy. Yet, many DZs do not and if they have a fast downsize even from a student status canopy loaded at 1:1 going to 1.3:1 is a heafty change in my opinion. You can either listen to the voice of reason. Or you can dismiss me and find out the hard way. The choice is now yours. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

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Sure, Michael, anything for you. Is there anything else you want me to do in this little fantasy of yours? His? What about all of OURS! So, if I have my toenails painted can I have you all in your PJs?

Whateva!

I know people point to SDCs program as being one of the more progressive around. However, 1.3:1 wingloading is NOT something that would be encouraged here. In fact, I have seen people discouraged from this wingloading this soon. I don't know of any program that is so advanced that would be good enough to have a jumper on a 1.3:1 loading with 100 or less jumps and an elliptical canopy. I think most safety concerned people (even progressive minded ones) can see that this situation is not something that could be seen as good. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Bwahhhhhhh "Tower to Wisconsin Air flight ###....give way to Air Mexicana...once again he has lost his way....." Yah really! "Everyone look out. Mexicana is on the loose." (-actual quote at O'Hare on ground control)

Most likely.

Close. It's a CL-65 (CRJ 200). Interior: HERE

Your pilot was behind the plane and was powering up to try and prevent a full stall. That would be my guess. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

It was.

Grumpysmurf! Long time no hear! I see you haven't given up on living on the edge. This is your first motorcycle right? You be careful boy.

Oh grow up! You started all this with an attack on a moderator saying stuff that wasn't true. You pissed a lot of people off then.

Bllick!! I hate coffee. I get hot chocolate!

Uhhhhh....Daytona Beach?

Fixed. The first one was the only broken one. Oooops.

DOOHH!!!! working on it. Man, that sucks.

View out my window. Yah, it's sweet. PIC 1 PIC 2 PIC 3 PIC 4