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Cool... no i never got the diploma, i had 50jumps taken off me because i was sick for a month, was not in the right state of mind to jump after a big break up and on top of that had asthma problems. So i lost 4 jumps for everyday i was not there as you are only allowed 5 sick days off before they start deducting jumps from your course fees. Somtething like that anyway. On top of that, i was not happy with my work experience placement as it was a new dropzone that did only 10 tandems in 3 weeks i was there so i left and went and got paid to work where i work now. To me the 'Diploma' means nothing what soever in skydiving i feel it is a word that helps you to get the government support and student loans, that is a good thing. But the certificate at the end means nothing in the skydiving world as you would know. What we are doing if a similar thing to these people but in a more relaxed way where you have no risk of losing any money as we will refund what ever you do not do, you do the jumps at your own pace on your own time, and we are making it more affordable for the international people and giving you your own single room on the DZ with the entire course being a one-on-one programme. On top of this the instructors are people who just came first in nearly every single event at the new zealand nationals this year and last year. I have enrolled three people here from the UK last year and they are all currently there now and one is working as a packer for us at the moment while he gets his jumps done. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

they would not have a great chance at other places unless they sort it out on their own and have the required visas, they would be just the same as anyone else with 170 jumps. Our course may be named wrong but it does say that it is a course that trains you to work as a proffessional. i will fix that name as soon as i get home. I must say to you that our DZ does not take free student Labour from the Christchurch Parachute School. Yes it use to, that has stopped. I must also add that i was free labour at the dropzone that i am now paid a yearly salary at, as was 2 other jumpers. One of those other jumpers has up until recently been a paid packer and a paid camera man. We had another student the next year but it seems that they were not right to continue at our dropzone with full time employment. I do not agree with the 3 months work experience'unpaid' from the diploma school but it seems to work well and most of the new zealanders get offered jobs at the end of it, though our package that we are talking abbout is for international students, these people can not get work in New Zealand unless they have visas and sort it out themselves. You are comparing us to the diploma in CHCH, we are not that. We are not a big tandemm operation as we focus mainly on AFF and freeflying. Sure we have tandems to keep us afloat but this is about getting more people in the sport and not Tandems. i note that the word Professional needs to and will be changed. I see it gives a false impression but anyone who enquires will not be lead astry as i am sure all my lengthy posts here have been in detail and am thinking that you are just trying to wind me up. The package we offer is listed under the title, that is all we offer apart from our other packages. If someone wants employment afterwards they need to do what anyonelse needs to do to get employment. We do not take free student labour we do not give jobs out, we do not give visas out. what you get is what you read on the package. It is a professional skydiving package to train people to the workings on a dropzone, how a dropzone operates, it is not a package that instantly makes you a professional. It is a training package to becoming a professional. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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A mate of mine who does BASE back home in new zealand tells me that the only thing illegal about it is 'tresspassing'. A group of people i met did a legal BASE of a bridge for the millenium as well. I am also pretty sure that they have a festival each year with BASE, speed handgliding and stunt paragliding. As long as you are not trespassing, i am to understand it is legal. edit: site names ~TA .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

I think their would not be any chance at all after coming straight off our course as Christchurch do a 'diploma in commercial skydiving' and they send their students off for three months unpaid work experience that can then lead to full time work. It is very funny you mention those dropzones as queenstown, christchurch, rotorua, kaikoura are all owned or part owned by Steve Smith and Kirsty Smith who are the directors of the Diploma course. I imagine you work for them. Anyhow, might i add that our course is a 'Package deal', that is designed for international students, who intend going back to their own country, it is not designed for you to get a job in new zealand, it is not designed for you to get work through us, it is a skydiving course that gives you an affordable start to get your jumps up and have some education into the work place of a dropzone.. International students do not get visas through us, nor do we help them get visas. What are you trying to get at? .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

No it is not government funded as no more private institutes in new zealand can become. It has offically been running with our first students for three months. Though we were developing it with 4 students last year who are now employed at the dz as a packer and as a cameraman. It is not a 'school' such to speak, it is more a sport skydivers dropzone, these are quite rare in nz. What we are trying to do is give students theses packages for the price of what the jumps would usually cost plus we are trowing in some lectures from our DZO who is a Captain for air new zealand, he would lecture meteorology. One of our coaches in the new zealand 4-way team and he is our 'main' lecturer on ground training and AFF and coach jumps. We have a Freefly coach who owns the NZFreefly school who will give lectures on freeflying. People there at the moment are quite lucky as Wendy Smith has been there for the last month and will be there for a couple of more weeks. So it is more a dz where we are trying to appeal to students. There is another dropzone in new zealand doing the diploma, now this is government funded for new zealand students and is a good thing for the Kiwi students but they also have international jumpers that have to pay alot more than the kiwi. What we are doing is making this course to appeal to the overseas student as we offer the free accommodation along with making it $3000-$5000 cheaper than other options you have here. I would like to see UK students, the reason is because New Zealands main industry is tourism and everyone comes over and does a tandem and some learn AFF. Now in the UK to do AFF, i think it is £1800uk pounds. For that price you can fly to new zealand via thailand and oz return and do the AFF course(25 jumps) and accommodation. Now how can that be a bad thing? .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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I do not think you do not know anything so please stop talking to me like that. I am not for any old teenager to start jumping. Not at all, you are right, if kids jump and burn in the parents would more than likely sue. I think though in this case would be different and i can understand why she jumps. Her father knows the risks and from him being an ex Golden knight, i can not see him suing anyone if his daughter is killed on a jump. Any skydiver who gets their kids into the sport know what they are doing, and i find it hard to belive that they would sue their dz when it was the experienced skydiver parent getting their children into the sport. As i am not from the states so there really should not know anything about Jean-Paul, i do not see how he has anything to do with a 16 year old jumping. You made it sound like i am disrespeting this person, i do not know this person and was never talking about this person. If the dzo choses to let a 16 year old jump at there dz, that is their discretion. I still dont see what any of this has to do with a 16 year old wanting to know if she is the youngest jumper. Take it up with USPA if you have a problem, not her, she is abiding by the rules and the law. You should welcome her, not be an ass to her just because she has the same passion and committment as we all here do. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

i dont think you are an asshole, i enjoy many of your posts, i just think you are being an ass at the moment. Sorry for my ignorance but could you tell me who john-paul is so i can have a better understanding where you are coming from. I dont mean to attack you, i just never knew skydivers to put newbies down. i am sure if you tell me who john-paul is i will understand you better. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

You are one of the more decent posters in dropzone.com.......so how come you are being such an ass today? you are attacking this girl because she and her father are very proud of her as seems many other people are. She is 16years old and skiting a bit maybe, but so what? i am sure you have some posts where you have showed off something or been proud of yourself e.g. 'how is dropzone.com going to live without me?'....but you do not want people attacking you. This girl has accomplished something far greater than any 16 year old i have ever met, she is mature enough to be responsible with her own life as she has survived 58 frrefly jumps and passed AFF, she has skydiving in her blood as her father is ex GK........ are you jelous that she has half your jumps at such a young age? or are you in a bad mood and taking it out on 16year old today because you woke up next to man or something? Chill dude, and welcome the girl to the sport. She should not have to keep skydiving quiet...you dont! what gives you the right to tell people you skydive and she can not? are you better or something? .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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