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I think it is a catch 22, you can get it on tv and try to rope more people in for the tandems so alot of people can earn more money so we can afford more jumos and the latest equipment and better planes and dz facilities but there is a major down point in that.... In new zealand for only having around just over 300 skydivers and not all are current we have a big tandem operation for the size of the country and amount of jumoers, Nz dropzones combined do around 500-800 tandems a day with good weather but then the downside is a couple of the dropzones are doing over a 100 tandems a day nearly every jumping day while other are only doing 20-40. The market in new zealand is very competitive as at my dz doing only around 30- 40 a day we charge a bout $150 US dollars to 12,000feet while another dropzone a few hours away that does from 100-140 tandems a day is charging only 100US dollars and giving free t-shirt and ground video. Now there are three dz's all next to each other and they are doing the same amount of tandems for around the same price and they have 2 or 3 busses from the same company's every day pulling in and nearly everyone on the all does tandems. As a country thats main economy is tourism skydiving, and bunjee are big dollars over here and tandem master and camera men will earn around $250US dollars to $600 US dollars a day quite easily. I myself am a big fan to get to get more people in NZ interested in jumping sports style so that our competitions can become more competitive and bigger meets. So i would like it to be bigger in NZ so that we can if it a quater of the size of the states, it would be great to have all the facilities you guys have and all the people and the amount of friends you all make. With skydiving so small in new zealand, it is the same faces year in, year out and we have no wind tunnel or bars at our dz's. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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i have done a bit of marketing my dz in a a much smaller country by giving footage to tv shows(fun clips and tandems) and news shows(like santa jumping) for free. It was other jumpers footage and they were all up for it as long as there were contracts signed that they can not sell it to other shows or other countries, they were making sure no one like real tv got it or anything. So from this what i think is that...it depends on where you want to take your future with filming skydiving, if you already have television shows on your resume then make them pay for it, if not give it to them for free with contracts signed so you can mark this down on your resume, otherwise they may just go to the next guy in line who will give it for free so he can get the exposure. If you were to give it for free you would want to put a mark on it(like a photo water mark), you would make sure in writing that they can not use it for any other purpose than what you have agreed on and most definetly do not let them sell it, even if you were to get a percentage. If they were to sell it and you get a cut, well it might be good at the time but then the next people will sell it and so on, then it will just end up on Real TV or a show taking the piss out of our sport where you can do nothing about it. This is my advice if you were looking to get involved with tv adverts etc... .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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well we just had the nationals through our dz and i am sure sky television will be doing a good little slot in new zealand for us. Thanks for your feed back, i just dont think this is the sort of show where i can focus our jumpers into. Though for a couple of years of now i have been talking to different sports shows like snowboarding and surfing and skating about getting some segments in their shows. Though i will for sure be trying to push different disciplins of our sport, i just need to get the deal first before trying to get other things in a contract. Thanks for your input!

sure.. in regards to that i see what you are saying, i do ask you to open your mind up to a little tv set with a small audience who are down to earth kiwis, the whole show is a laugh and the presenters are cocky famous sports people who do extreme activities such as skydiving and kayaking over hunua falls etc. The show is a big laugh and is not serious at all. I can see if it was in a serious light that saying along the lines of redeemihg yourself by jumping out of a plane could look bad, so i take that on board and look at it a different way and maybe take the player of the day for a jump. Your opinions do make me think twice and that is why i posted. Maybe the attitude should change on my behalf and do it in more of a positive light by taking the star of the weekend or the winning captain. I do ask you though to maybe have a search on the internet about our extreme sporting culture and you will see the relaxed feeling we have in new zealand. We are a small place that is a very very proud country. Now in regards to my rude reply, i may have been out of line but when i read his thread i felt it came accross hard and rude with no room for discussion. I am reading each and every reply and take note of everything said. Note: I love skydiving and for years have been dealing with media and tourists with the tandem operation. I am not stupid enough to go and make skydiving look dangerous or stupid, i see no harm in getting a laugh out of it though, just like when santa jumps and you have a laugh. The show i am in talks with is a real kiwi blokes show, and if you are australian, think the footy show and you get the idea of the characters and the laid backness, If you are american think "the man show" but to do with sports and not women. I hope you get a different idea of where i am coming from. And soory for being rude, it was a bad reaction. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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yeah, i dont see jonah ever coming. i went to school with jonah, and he was 118kg's at the age of 18. It would not just focus on rugby though, it will be all sports as in NZ we love all our sports. I cant take 2 people up a week though as it would cost me ___ a week to do that. Depending on the tandems it brings in though, that could always change. At the moment i am tossing ideas around with one of the presenters and hope something comes of it. When i have a deal, if i have a deal, i will let you know the show. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

thanks for your opinion. I am from new zealand and that is where they show is, skydiving is known in new zealand and it is not going to be a punishment as such. Kiwis are very laid back people who are very adventurous, we all know of skydiving and bunjee and white water raftin. I do not see this making skydivers look stupid. we have taken this show skydiving before and got an amazing response. More or less all sportsman in new zealand are some what friends and the only rivalry we have is on the field. We are a small country that our economy lives off the tourists who come to our country to skydive and bunjee jump and walk the mountains. I think you misunderstand the concept, it is not a show on punishments, it is a show on couch sports. Now the only laughter they would get out of someone skydiving are 2cent jokes and the slow mo of their expressions onf their exit. I am glad you think you have big balls and can speak for every skydiver here, you must be an idol to everyone. I just do not see why you had to be so rude. maybe you make skydivers everywhere look so pathetic with such an aroggant attitude. I put this up for discussions, not rude aroggance from yourself. BTW, i am talking about a tandem. I do not see how taking All Black rugby players for tandem skydives could ever make our sport look ridiculous, as they are heroes for our country and we love our sporting folk even when they do stuff up. We are a country of 4 million not of hundreds of millions. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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Well i just recieved a great email. I am in talks with a huge tv show in a small country about putting a segment in their weekly show. It is a very popular show. I will tell you guys the idea i have presented to them and they are keen on, but would really like any practical cheap ideas that maybe i could add to it. Now i am offering our services free of charge as i am doing this for marketing my dz, so i get free adverts and a huge audience gets to see how much fun skydiving could be.... So this is the basic idea, please send me some add ons. Okay, the show is a live show in a humerous way going over the weekends sport. Now the player that screwed up for the team or lost the game because of some stupid mistake on their behalf comes on the show and everyone will give him shit, he or she will then explain themselves, say sorry and the audience will boo or something. So the presenters will then say how about showing how sorry you are to the nation and your fans by asking for forgivness and showing them you mean it by letting us throw you out of a plane at 12,000feet by tandem of course. The show films them on the ground and just for whuffo purposes and laughs we will make them wear pink frap hats, or a pair of knee pads or something, you know people doing tandems will put anything on when you tell them to because they have to trust you. Make him look stupid. Then we will video the freefall blah blah blah. At the end of the segment each week they presenters will put in a how to contact us for tandems aff and static. What do you guys think? Every single week there will be a lot of people tuning in to see who gets thrown out of the plane, and these presenters are all a laugh a minute, so will come out good i think. Would like any more ideas to go with this or opinions on how you think this will portray skydiving. Cheers. .Karnage Krew Gear Store .

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