sundevil777

I think it better to not think of the "solution" as being one or the other. I also think that the tendency for jumpers to lose track of altitude is not so likely to be increased much by their possession of an "out". Such loss of altitude awareness happened long before modern AADs and audible altimeters. Even the best in the world have suffered from such lapses. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The more likely scenario is just losing track of altitude. We don't like to admit that we might do it, so many will say their AAD is for when they get knocked out. It doesn't matter if you have a fancy audible altimeter, many highly experienced people have lost track of the ground. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think that what is really important is that we do our best to ensure that newly licensed jumpers don't make their decision to exclude an AAD or RSL too quickly. I choose to have an AAD, but not an RSL. I realize that statistically I am more likely to be saved by the RSL (and it is a lot cheaper), but it is a decision I make as a very informed, experienced jumper, with a high level of gear knowledge. Newbies should be strongly encouraged not to make an early decision to exclude an AAD or RSL. I hope we can all agree on that. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Gary, Let me introduce you to the “entitlement generation”. They are “entitled” to make bad decisions anytime they feel like it. They are “entitled” to make the same mistakes others have made in the past. They are “entitled” to ignore sound advice given by someone who has been there, done that and has the T-shirt. When something goes wrong they are “entitled” to blame someone/something else for their fuck ups. They are “entitled” to demand that there be some electronic gismo available to pull their head out of their ass when their “mad skills” fail them. The world has changed my friend and you are looking at the future leaders of skydiving and society as a whole. Ain’t it grand? Sparky Come on now, I remember such bad wind decisions being very common way back when I started. Those decisions were also so much worse because we all had round reserves. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I understand your position. With even semi-rational leadership of the nations, there should just be a standoff. Iran is different I think in that there is good reason to suspect they may want to start a nuclear war. N. Korea's leadership isn't that crazy, but it looks like Aquavelvajob is. Back to the topic of the thread, I'm seeing evidence of a lot of violence by the left, but not by the right. I see the left trying to make it seem like it's happening, but it just isn't so. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

iran doesn't have nuclear weapons When Iran does acquire nuclear weapon capabilities, will that make you happy? israel has nuclear weapons right now - does that make you happy? Yes Now what about you and Iran having them, would that make you happy if they had nucular weapons? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Does Iran having nucular weapons make you happy? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

the palestinians would like to live in a modern twenty-first century state not a three thousand year old jewish cult reset to the old testament

Being on the wrong side of a world war, not participating in what the UN decided after that war, then starting your own wars and losing them...well, that is going to have consequences. Unless of course you're the poor innocent Palestinians, then you expect a reset back to whatever point in time of your choosing. I don't think there should be any aid going to them until Arafat's widow coughs up a boat load of the money he stole. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

They're conveniently forgetting the inconvenient truth that the GW activists called it settled science. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

But, but the Algore said it was settled science, Didn't he? Or was it the pres? Or was it both of them and a whole bunch more? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Not that anything is finished at this time from this post as there is disagreement even about it. But, it does further my position that the "science" is far from settled and that there is no concensus on the topic No it doesn't, any more than record high temperatures in Chicago today or record rain in Rhode Island yesterday or record snow in Philadelphia last winter mean very much taken alone. It should at the very least mean that the degree of the GW problem has been overstated by the Algore. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I advocate a strict policy of no more feeding of this particular troll. All in favor, please do not reply, no matter how tempting. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It doesn't surprise me that you've contrived a ridiculous meaning to my simple statement. WHAT? That is exactly what you wanted us to examine, but now that you see it doesn't support your claim, the details aren't worth discussing? I think you have seen the sawtooth shape to your guy's velocity data, and in order to hang on to your belief, all you can do is resort to, "EXTREMELY FAST" as if that is now convincing. Have the balls to admit you were wrong, at least on this point, and then you can move on to the next "question" like truthers always do, we know you have an endless supply. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

This was very Republican in 86 and I can't say they really want real immigration reform, as the R's love the cheap labor so they can avoid union issues and worker's rights. Libs typically complain about cons wanting all illegal aliens deported. Libs are OK with law enforcement ignoring federal laws, and encouraging illegals to come here for work. This has the effect of making a permanent underclass of workers that are victimized with no ability to do anything about it. Country club cons might want the same thing, but don't pretend dems aren't in favor of it also. That's vague that I don't see it as left or right. No, it is always dems that are speaking out about "fair trade, not just free trade". I think it was Obama that used that sort of line often during the campaign. The traditional cons take a Milton Freedman sort of view that market forces should be left to rule. So you're pro-NAFTA, that's a RW perspective, not sure what your argument is there. See, you've made the assumprion that Clinton was uber liberal when in fact he was very moderate like GHWB. I'm just showing that I can praise the actions of a dem pres (against great opposition from his party). Can you do the same? Isn't there anything a repub pres did that you support? Obama certainly is continuing a lot of Bush policies, so he is in effect agreeing with them. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I differ in that I think attempts to make abortion illegal at any stage should be abandoned. I differ in that I think immigration reform is very important, to greatly increase the number of legal immigrants allowed. I differ in that I think there should be much more done to enforce fair trading policies/laws as opposed to just pursuing free/open trade. I give compliments to Clinton for going against his party to enact NAFTA (although it could be improved), and welfare reform. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

tell me, do you have your own hypothesis or are you inclined to accept NIST's? Before we go any further you must clarify that, because it seems you have your own argument? I do not have my own hypothesis, It is not that I "accept" the NIST conclusions, I just don't think there is anything mysterious about what happened. I think that truthers are not satisfied with the official investigation because the the conspiracy theories are not really taken seriously, and the official reports can reflect that. You must also realize that the official investigation is asked by truthers to evaluate a never ending list of "questions". So, I've answered your question directly. How about addressing the sawtooth shape of your guy's vel vs time data? It is unmistakable. It is either the result of error (showing no reason to accept the overall conclusion of 1g accel), or it shows that there was in fact intermittent, significant resistance to the fall of the building. Which is it? You claim objectivity, an open mind, so demonstrate it. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Your spidey-bias-sense could use some recalibration! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I find that they will often show their bias, but still come out more fair and balanced than the others. I am quite able to spot the bias, and interpret the content accordingly. Can you admit that the others often show their bias? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Most will say that all are good, but the one they chose is the best. Seriously, unless money is of no concern for you, buy used. Infinity Rocks! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

you might notice the words 'at least' in there. the building did indeed freefall, NIST admits it but they only admit 2.5 seconds... That is enough for me, because freefall is impossible no matter what any retard says. Freefall is gravity having no resistance other than the atmosphere, and that does not happen to a steel framed highrise let alone anything with coordanted and substancial input/removal by someone or something. Office fires lack the symetry that would have to have occured for the official narrative to be correct. No amount of bullshitting or comparisions can get around that. Yet plenty of people (imbiciles) that consider themselves intellegent cannot understand that, or simply refuse to. Most are meek or apathetic and have an excuse, but those that have knowledge of the incidents but still believe the crap that has been fed, simply lack common sence. To me it does not matter what the actual velocity or time was, it was simply too fast, inadequately explained, viciously ignored and blatantly obviously overlooked and simply lied about from the very people you and I are supposed to confide in. It should matter to you what the actual velocity vs time was. That data as presented by your guy's video showed that the accel was NOT constant, it was NOT freefall for the 2.5 sec. It had a sawtooth characteristic that was obvious. That means that the acceleration was intermittently reduced. It is very apparent. Can't you see that? Stop implying that others are meek, apathetic, or imbeciles. Please stop bullshitting and take a closer look at the same data you asked us to look at. And still, it is worthless to say that it was "simply too fast". If truthers don't have an estimate for what it should have been, then you got nothing. Your guy's analysis was very superficial. the slope of his "best fit" line depends very much on over what time period he applies the best fit. If he had adjusted the start/end point for the best fit it can greatly affect the result. I think he likely chose a start and end data point that gave the highest accel, and that is where his analysis ended. If he had used the physics toolkit to determine the accel over more limited time periods, it would have shown that the accel had a LOT of variation. Please address this. It is exactly to the point of what you requested us to take a look at. Now that it is under scrutiny, you seem to want to dismiss the result. If you're going to give up on this point about freefall for 2.5 seconds, then, please admit it. If you actually hold the position that, "To me it does not matter what the actual velocity or time was", then you are acknowledging that your guy's video does not support your assertions, like so many other assertions are proved wrong, and then you go on to some other supposed proof of your conspiracy theory. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You're just showing your blind bias. No surprise, it drives libs nuts that they are so successful, and at the same time have been show to be the most accurate, fair and balanced. That's right, many studies have shown it. Honestly, do you partake of that which you condemn? Is it your opinion, or simply what you've been told to think of that which doesn't support the liberal mantra? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It was also determined that the more people listen to radio and TV talk shows, the more likely they are to hold views on current affairs contrary to the facts. You are wrong. I understand that you don't accept that, because you want to interpret the questions and the answers as fits your lib template. I remember the survey to which I believe you refer. It was complete bullshit designed and interpreted by those that made it to achieve a desired result. Libs were blind to the bias, conservatives saw through it easily. No surprise that you want to fall back on your belief that conservative media, there are other studies that tell a very different story about lib media lies and their uncanny ability to not be fair and balanced. Fox News Rocks! The National Review and Weekly Standard kick ass! Rush is a very astute political observer, even if he does put his foot in his mouth regularly. I also listen to NPR, BBC radio, and watch PBS and other lib media sources regularly. They are very smooth at inserting their bias, selectively leaving out information and such. Can you say that you check out conservative media, or is there no need because you already have your mind made up about them? No matter, liberal media sources are failing in the marketplace. I understand that it is very troubling. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It certainly is fortunate for you that you're not guilty of "gambits" Yes, you didn't say he was a facist. Anyway, you said that you rest your case. That should mean you don't post anymore! At the most, you just get a closing statement and that's it. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am