ManBird

Also mirrored here. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Also mirrored here. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

And severely waterproof! Rad. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

This is one of those threads that reminds us all how stupid message boards can be. This has gone through like six topics and has been a petty argument the whole way. Why don't you all go on the roof... ...and fall. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

I'll make your life easy. Forget all the choices. Get these: Javelin Odyssey Sabre2 PD Reserve Neptune (use as visual) ...for RW: - Bev suit - Any full face that fits ...or for freeflying: - Firefly suit (2-piece) - Bonehead Ratface How's that for simple? Why do I recommend these? Because you'll be selling most of it in less than 200 jumps. The above mentioned items will sell quickly. Then you'll have the experience, and the money, to decide what you want. Edited to add: Also, on your first rig, screw colors. Get the closest thing to the door. Selling each item individually will make matching colors irrelevant. And buy it all from Square 1. They will make your life easier. They'll give you an awesome deal and stand behind the products they sell. No, I don't work for them or have any incentive to promote them. I've just found that they are very easy to work with. You make one phone call and place one order. Done. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Anyway to become a premier member without being noted as such? I like the classifieds features, but I don't want anyone to know that I've paid to be more of a geek than I actually am. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

#2 and #3 are dead on. #1 needs to be changed to "totally fucked packing." It's hard to accidentally pack a mal. I try to accidentally pack one every time. Hell, even on a BASE canopy, you can get away with a lot of slop. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Yeah. I just discovered the waterproofness of this jacket. I wore it out to lunch and it was raining outside. Water beads up better on this jacket than any Gore-tex or snowboarding jacket I've ever owned. Water doesn't make it into the inlets, either. Even if I didn't jump, I'd take this over a Arc'teryx any day. The hood storage and the way the pockets are built make this a lot more functional. I also got compliments on the jacket from friends and co-workers, who didn't even realize what it's for. My girlfriend thinks it's hot (remember what I said about making out?). I also just noticed that there are inlets on the perimeter of the pants, from the hips to right above the knee. I tried the whole outfit on. Once you see how the adjustable are when worn, and where all the inlets are positioned, you can really see why these suckers fly like a wingsuit. I have over 200 jumps with BirdMan BASE Pantz. Even though I haven't jumped these yet, I can tell you that these feel more like having a machine on my legs, if that makes sense. Like I'm feeling the same sort of presence from them that I feel with the leg wing of a wingsuit (without the constriction). It's hard to describe. Basically, you can tell right away that these aren't just pants. Good stuff. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

High speed stalls generally come from going big on rear risers. The reason is that you are taking about one half to two thirds of your canopy out of the airflow. Digging on rear risers leaves you with what's between the As and Bs, and everything behind the Bs becomes useless. It's like going from a 100 to a 40, mid-dive. That's a high speed stall. Canopies will pretty much only stall from digging on toggles when you overload them (cough, cough). At 4:1, a high speed stall can come from toggles because you can so quickly use all the canopy's lift potential. This is rarely going to be the case at or under 2:1. It's a different type of high speed stall, but the net result is the same -- hitting the ground hard. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

They're here. Whoo! This "bootie" system is very cool. You'll just have to see it, if you haven't already. The size and shape of the inlets and outlets on the pants make a lot of sense -- sort of somehwre between the BirdMan Pantz and the concept of smoking pants, but improved and far more refined. Zippers on the pants -- YES! This will make life very easy. I just need to remember to wear something underneath them. The jacket is stylin'. This is probably the coolest jacket I own -- on par with my Nintendo jacket. It seriously looks cool. Like if I wore this out to a bar, it wouldn't just be acceptable -- chicks would start making out with me and ninjas would do like seven backflips and then bow respectfully (as well they should). The inlets are somewhat similar to the front air deflectors on the Skyflyer suits. Only instead of just feeding air over, they feed into the jacket. Everything is all this like kickass slick ZP. My suit is all black -- sort of like what a ninja might wear. Only I'll be able to fly better than ninjas (that's why they're bowing respectfully to me all the time). I can't wait to jump these. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

This is a message board. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Probably a brake line. They do go occassionally, I'm guessing where the lower meets the line. I saw one break mid-swoop just two weeks ago. Thought the jumper did cartwheel across the pond, there were no injuries. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Without stalling your canopy up top, you just might do that on the ground. I myself waited until I was about 10' above a tree to discover the stall point on my Fox 245. If you're flying really flat or are deep in brakes for whatever reason, it's good to KNOW your stall point, what the beginning of a stall feels like, and the speed at which you can recover from a stall on your particular canopy. Plus, it's fun. Put your balls on and do it.

Faber, stop posting as Chachi. Pmed -- I'll host that video. Host it old school. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Responded in one of your other threads. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

I'll be out of town. Buy a wingsuit, damn you. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Holy crap, did you find the guy who did this to them and the sledgehammer he used? Don't take this the wrong way, but trying to determine which one is the hottest is like trying to determine which ocean is the dryest. No offense intended, really -- it's just that one is more than a tad lumpy in the mid-section, one has a face like a fucked up potato, and the other's mouth could be a substitute for railroad tracks. If you swapped out the defunct lids and flipped them over then, oh, no... still ugly ugly. Don't get me wrong, seriously, I mean that in the nicest way possible. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Totally different beasts. I have about 400 jumps on a Sabre 120 and 300 on a Sabre2 107. Both canopies are well rounded, so I think that's why they stuck with the name (that, and the Sabre was wildly popular). The openings: The Sabre2's openings are about a trillion times better than the Sabre. The Sabre slammed you if you didn't pack it right. The Sabre2 can be packed any damn way and still give you a good opening. And I mean ANY damn way (you'd cringe at some of the wads I shoved into that bag). Both will fly straight in line twists. The Sabre2 might rotate you up to once in the event of line twists -- no big deal. The front: On my Sabre, I threw 180s from about 300'. On my Sabre2, they were between 400' and 450' (270s and 360s were from about 450' and 500' respectively). Front riser pressure builds much more slowly on the Sabre2. I even threw the occasional 450 on final, and 720 up top, with the Sabre2. Very light front riser pressue that builds up over about 7 - 8 seconds. The Sabre is done within 5 seconds. For more conservative swoops, double fronts are easy to hold and 90s build up decent speed. The middle: The Sabre2's full flight glide is noticeably steeper than the Sabre, and rears get it to about the Sabre's normal glide. Rear riser pressure is higher on the Sabre2. The Sabre is trimmed so flat, there's not really any place for rear risers on landing. The back: The original Sabre had damn near no flare when compared to the Sabre2. The Sabre2 has a LOT of bottom end. Toggle turns are much quicker on the Sabre2. Toggle pressure is higher on the Sabre2. On straight-in landings, the flare can be very staged -- which is good for beginners who are still working on timing out their. The Sabre2 moreso than the Sabre, IMO, is a very good canopy to go from a conservative flying style to a more aggressive one, for beginner to intermediate canopy pilots. It's a good canopy on which to learn all the facets of canopy flight, right on up to landing swoops on purely on rear risers. Both make kickass, worry-free wingsuit canopies, as well. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

It's a date. I'll bring my leather cat-o-nine, red bondage rope, and a ball gag. Just note that all four of us will have to take turns with the camera. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

While these have NOTHING to do with her, they sure would be fun to type on a regular basis. Off the top of my head... Astronuts Gunk Ho Ninja Fister* Obstacauliflower Hepatits'n'ass C Shit Guitar Gary Dunkin Legs Turbo Steak * A ninja's hands are tiny. And you know what they say, "Small hands, good fister." "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Yo, Rob. Hook me up! People, you have to see this. It looked like a puppy was thrown from a moving vehicle. And that wasn't the only brake issue that day. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

I thought about this, too. A 96 with weights would be a good choice down here at 300'. When I go to jump at higher MSLs, I can just ditch the weights and not scare myself, as I might on canopy loaded at 2.2 or greater. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

If I had unlimited funds, I'd have four rigs: 1. My everyday wingsuit rig, basically what I have now (KA97, PDR126, Wings) 2. A pond rig (VE96, PDR126, ????) 3. Tiny rig (VE??, PDR106, ????) 4. Low deployment wingsuit rig (Fox 185, PDR193, Mirage or Vector (for flatness)) That's not even mentioning BASE gear. I'd Skyhook them all. And maybe throw a Cypres on rig 1. Now to dig up like $18,000 of expendable funds. Hmmmm... to dream. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

Cool. I've received several PMs, and the consensus seems to be 96 + weights. Somewhere down the line, I might want something smaller just for fun and going fast, as well as being on the other end of wingsuit/canopy RW. Thanks for sharing your experiences! "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click

I'm still no fan of his (far from it), but I don't actively hate the guy, if that makes sense. I knew he'd burned something over there. I didn't realize that was a LEGAL object that got burned. That's jacked. "¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click