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New Cooper book... November. https://www.amazon.ca/Hijacking-American-Flight-119-Skyjacking/dp/0197695752/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780197695753&linkCode=qs&qid=1694316530&s=books&sr=1-1 https://books.google.ca/books?id=uvPUEAAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA274&dq=flight+119+skyjacking&hl=en&source=newbks_fb&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=flight 119 skyjacking&f=false
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Of course he would say it to ATC because they had the radar screen.. and they do mention the stairs at times in those comms.. It should have been here but there are two issues,, there appears to be redactions and there is that 14 minute gap in the handoff between R2 and R5... was it actually redacted or was there a comm issue.. There was some discussion about 305 getting passed to the wrong controller.. is that the gap, is that when Rataczak said it?? I believe he said it, otherwise it is a significant lie.. for no reason,,, that isn't Rataczak, there is no motive or evidence that he would lie or did lie.. He may have replaced "radar screen" with "shrimp boat" later but the meaning is the same. R2 asks 305 to go to 133.9.. in error.
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I know, I just found evidence that it was Scott, not Rataczak in Reno.. you weren't sure. "Take leave" is a common phrase for aircrew.. it was actually used twice in Reno. Scott saying it in Reno has nothing to do with Rataczak saying it earlier or not.
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Looks like it was Scott that said it in Reno.. not Rataczak. Nov 26, 1971 multiple news reports... The Pilot of the Northwest airlines Boeing 727 said he believed the Hijacker a took leave of us in the Woodland. Wash., area 25 Miles North of here (Portland) As the plane flew Low and slow from Seattle to Reno. Why would the pilot claim on the 26th that Cooper jumped near Woodland if they were earlier claiming he jumped in the suburbs of Portland.. it only make sense if they were giving a range between last contact and the Soderlind call before Portland. They weren't saying Cooper jumped in the suburbs of Portland,, they were saying that was the call to Soderlind inferring he jumped before that call but after last contact at 8:05. They didn't know where Cooper jumped but they had a range based on events that were time marked.
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I can't say until I have gone through it but it was one of stories published in Spanish by a Mexican publisher for Latin America..
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I have lots of Dan Cooper comics and studied them carefully for any Cooper connections but today another came in the mail... a very unique Dan Cooper comic that I had recently discovered its existence...
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That quote is Rataczak.. I just transcribed him from the video. Watch the vIdeo. Rat also said he regretted them (the crew) not marking their location,,, NOT asking ATC to mark their radar.
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What are you doing, you are spouting nonsense now, nobody claimed the plane was flying sideways, clearly you have no understanding of this simple issue. And, you are wrong,, there is no evidence that winds aloft between about Ariel and Battleground were W-SW.. Wind was an estimate.. The FBI admitted that they used Portland and Salem as a proxy. The wrong time and place. The winds were shifting. We don't know what the winds were when and where Cooper jumped. Not Tom's balloon data, not the FBI file data. The winds were SW to SE where Cooper jumped.. it was shifting in the area. The point is we don't know the wind direction for certain. I just remembered that I know a current commercial pilot,, I'll ask him. You are aren't helping. So, just forget about it.
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You haven't explained anything,,, I was asking you a simple question. The FBI estimated a W to SW wind,, that is a sidewind.. the plane was flying slightly SSE between about Ariel and Battleground. Evidence indicates that wind was shifting between SW and SE during the stretch. My question is would the wind have any effect on the path Rataczak took hand flying a dirty jet.. would the wind push the jet East, would Rataczak fly straight into the wind or what...
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It is called logic... you can't claim an unknown is evidence. You can speculate what was redacted.. but the fact that there was a redaction isn't evidence. If that were the standard we would have thousands of Reca's....
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Now, you finally get it.. What effect does the winds aloft have on the path of 305 hand flying dirty?? Is it irrelevant, does a sidewind push it to one side, is it beneficial for a pilot to point straight into the winds aloft?? What FAA rule, sounds like nonsense for 305.. they had cleared skies..
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Blevins backtracks slightly but is still wrong.. There was no SOL for Air Piracy for Cooper... McCoy or Hahneman... Himmelsbach pursued a John Doe warrant for some unknown reason. Publicity stunt? The effect of a publicized "John Doe" warrant was to stop Cooper from coming forward (if alive) in the future... It would have caused Cooper to stay quiet believing there was no SOL... If he thought there was an SOL he may have talked. This is very odd because in 1976 the FBI concluded that there wasn't enough evidence to convict Cooper without his co-operation. The unnecessary JD warrant ensured that Cooper would not co-operate and ended the ability to solve the case until DNA came along much later. At the time there were false reports that there was an SOL.. why would the FBI get a JD warrant... to make the case near impossible to solve.. leverage to keep Cooper quiet...
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Everyone knows there are redactions,, the argument that redactions are evidence of a WFP is a leap too far.
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OK, so you are saying that for 305 being hand flown dirty, gear down and flaps down, there would be no reason or advantage to fly straight into the wind vs a crosswind.. the wind would have no effect on the path.. Now, why do you claim 305 had to fly down the middle of V-23.
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I am not missing anything, I just asked a question.
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there is also a 14 minute gap before 8:13..
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Rataczak.. "we felt this bump in the cabin causing increased pressure in our ears and we also saw the indication on the engineers panel" "I called the Air traffic control and I said you might want to mark this down I think our friend just took leave of us... now we think that he has left the airplane but we don't know for certain" ratclip.mp4
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Nothing is lost,, You talked generally about the wind having no effect,, fine.. of course planes fly in winds of all directions. This plane was not flying normally, it had gear down and flaps down, similar to a landing. My point is given the plane was flying dirty is there any advantage to fly straight into the wind vs an angle.
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What if the plane is flying dirty with lots of drag. Wouldn't it be better to point it into the wind.
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Crew could see the lights of Portland.... Portland and Vancouver would blend together into one mass of light.. Current light. in 1971 it would be less but Vancouver and Portland are one blob. Cooper would not have jumped into an urban lit up area...
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My most likely scenario is that Cooper flew into Portland days or weeks earlier.. he is an airplane guy. Using another name he holed up somewhere and took a taxi or shuttle to the airport,, though there are many hotel/motels next to the airport, he could have walked. IMO, Cooper did not jump where he had initially planned, he jumped early when Reno was in play.. But, Cooper when landing somewhere.. how does he know where to go, which direction, he would have at least a rough idea where he was, but he would have needed a compass for direction. Where would he go in the dark? Would he head toward the glowing lights of a city/town or avoid it.. if he walked the tracks would he actually know where he was going. He lands in the dark, he is wet, dirty and possibly injured.. How would he know which way to go? If the plane was flying N to S... would he go E or W??? to get away from the path.. going N or S follows the path and isn't really getting away. Maybe he did break into an empty house or cabin and holed up for while... that seems a common play for "fugitives".. Also, he may have booked it to Canada then flown back East to Toronto to re-enter the US... if he was from back East and wanted to get there undetected.
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Blevins is still pushing his flawed SOL theory.. He was schooled with the facts but still refuses to accept it.. It isn't a matter of opinion he still has the facts wrong. You can't debate people who just reject the facts. There was no SOL for Cooper.. or McCoy or Hahneman.
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I found the specs for the rear bulkhead door,, 76" height The 727 VR has a measurement tool that matches it.. = 6' 4" =5' 9" = 5" 305 had a different rack system but the bottom looks the same height
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One thing I have always wondered.. If Rataczak was hand flying,, IMO he was but concede that he was for sake of argument... Would he be inclined fly straight into the wind or at an angle??? It is possible the slight track SE before Portland was actually Rataczak hand flying straight into the wind? or would the wind direction be irrelevant.. After Portland the wind was SW... What is typical for flying into a wind? Essentially, would the wind direction have any effect on the path if plane hand flown and gear/flaps down?
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Rataczak acknowledged the path on the map was him hand flying the plane.. that supports the path by the actual pilot and rejects the WFP. Why did he have to track the centreline of V-23. It is probably true that the ATC map would be more accurate than GEOREF but remember they did do a more accurate path without GEOREF that was very close to the Spangler one.. The path is plotted points, the points are just connected by hand.. if you account for the GEOREF plotting error, the path can be smoothed to represent a typical jet. The pink line on this map is within the 1 mile plotting error.