FLYJACK

Cossey claimed he was called the night of the hijacking, the 24th.. this is not confirmed. Cossey was interviewed by the FBI in person on the 26th, he acknowledges the back chutes were for aerobatics. This file was sent out at 4:25 PM on the 25th. The missing chest reserve is described in detail, that had to come from Cossey it was his rig. Who else could have known that detail. Not Emrich, he gave them the dummy chute so he wouldn't know the rigs details. These details would only be known by the owner or if the chute was opened. Cossey must have talked to the FBI before this file was sent. Also, the missing back chute here was described as Olive Drab and Tan cotton harness.. Cossey claimed Sage Green Nylon container and harness.

Cossey lied to the FBI about his records... Cossey claimed NB6 was a "flat circular" and not modified.. (Gryder) The packing card for the missing chute is conical, NOT flat circular.

Yup, small sample size but another issue, 4 tests were done on the money,, which bills?

yes, of course.. stitching looks sketchy,,, the B-4 harness gets confused with the B-4 container, unrelated. The B-12 came with the B-4 harness. I actually found two B-12's that had the handles swapped to the other side. So, not rare. The one on left is an 3 pin version, the one on the right is a 4 pin, matches Gryder's,, the loop wasn't moved, they added one to the other side when they moved the handle.

All white is more common in 24'... an orange and white 24' Pioneer,, not Steinthal

Gryder's is a B-4 harness and B-12 container.. they originally came that way Obviously not matching Cossey's.. neither is Gryder's 1943 Hayes non-riptstop canopy.. but maybe McCoy obtained it (if it was his) as a prop for his school Cooper research project, makes sense.

More Cosseyness.... Claimed he still had his packing records in 2008,, YIKES Why didn't he give the serial number to the FBI??? He told the FBI he gave them all his records. Also, says the NB6 was the Cadillac,,, why would Hayden have one Cadillac just to meet regs.. Doesn't mention moving the handle to the other side. https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/unlikely-fbi-has-found-cooper-s-chute-says-man-1268323.php "I would recognize the stitching on the parachute," said Cossey, who believes he got the parachute in the 1960s and still has the serial number in old log books. "Choosing from the parachutes he had was like choosing whether to take a Cadillac or a Volkswagen to California," Cossey said of Cooper. "The one he didn't use was padded and very good. The one he used would cut you in the crotch area when the parachute opened. ... It would have worked, but it wasn't the best choice." Cossey said that if Cooper jumped in a suit and low-cut shoes, as described in FBI reports, the ripcord on the NB6 container would have been covered by his coat, and any experienced sky diver would know to wear footgear for rugged terrain.

What if Palmer misidentified a pre NORJAK dredge layer as the 1974 dredge layer... The money was above the layer so he concluded the money arrived after 1974.. Maybe it was actually a pre Norjak dredge layer below the money and the 1974 dredging was put on top of the money but eroded by 1980... just a thought. The exact money find spot. TBAR Sept 19, 1971 July 5, 1970.. "beach material" June 6 1972 "flood" August 10 1972

"Dan Cooper" was at Boeing Field...

Cossey claimed Cooper's pilot chute was 18"....

Cossey with NB8 in 2009 video... He gave Tosaw the Cooper replica in the 80's, either a different one here or maybe he borrowed it for this film.. Cossey says,, I provided two parachutes one was an NB8 and the other a Pioneer sport parachute.. (false) note to Gryder,,, Never says the pull was moved to the other side. Ripcord flat so hard to find. Cosseychute.mov

But it might have not have been white if we toss Cossey's claims,, and Hayden said he never looked inside at the canopies.. he assumed white, maybe white and orange. Cooper's chute might not have been all white. All white canopy is not a hard fact.

There might be a video of Cossey wearing that chute..

I have provided lots of evidence,, Cossey is the ONLY source for an NB6/8. There are serious descriptive inconsistencies between Cossey v Hayden and Cossey v packing card. There is actually nothing on the packing card that matches... You still ignore the packing card's conical vs Cossey's flat circular... completely incompatible canopy type,, a conical is consistent with a 24' and flat circular a 28'. That is one of the most powerful inconsistencies. If Cossey was describing the chute he packed for Hayden why is it incompatible with the packing card. Both can't be right. and Cossey customized it for a 28' calling it an NB8, that is not a container for a 24' canopy. Both Cossey and the packing car can't be correct,, it is impossible. So, based on all of Cossey's comments and conflicting descriptions it is clear that the packing card is correct and Cossey was not. Limiting what he said to the FBI only does not solve the inconsistencies. His comments outside the FBI tell us exactly what he thinks. and the chute canopy may not have even been white.. it was a bailout chute, no D rings or capewells.. Gryder's chute and canopy are still not Cooper's... not even close Gryder's container is a B-12 with a B-4 harness, D rings, Capewells and the pull moved to the other side, None of that is Cooper's, Gryder's canopy is a 1943 Hayes non ripstop... Cooper's was a 1960 Steinthal ripstop.. s/n 60-9707... also not even close. It would be nice to have Cossey's packing records. The take away is that Cooper's chute may have been found and rejected but we will never know know.. There was an orange and white chute found in the South Fork Lewis River about a mile from the Heisson store.. rejected because of orange/white but Cossey's claim the canopy was all white is unreliable. This was right in Cooper's LZ sweet spot.. perhaps a flood washed it into the River... another.. We will never know....

Yes, this is the point,, The only source for an NB6/8 was Cossey.. his description is irrelevant. Why defend it with so many inconsistencies? And this is fascinating... Cossey says.. He was called a second time the evening of the hijacking. (his claim, unconfirmed) The back chutes were his personal chutes taken from Issaquah. (They were not used Hayden's were) The NB8 was a Pioneer. He never said that to the FBI. (He only referred to the other one as a Pioneer, odd, if both were Pioneers,, why not say B-4 vs NB8) He calls it an NB8.. does this often. ( An NB8 modified "larger" is inconsistent with a 24' canopy as indicated on the packing card) He claims the one left in the plane was a B-4 sport freefall rig.. (The chute left behind was a bailout rig not a freefall rig, Cossey is describing HIS personal chute) He calls the NB-8 an emergency bailout rig for pilots, (Cossey was a pilot makes sense that he had at least one emergency bailout rig, the other was a freefall rig inconsistent with Hayden's rigs) He claims the NB8 was significantly thinner than the B-4 freefall rig. (Hayden's chute left in the plane was a P2-B-24, a very very thin civilian rig,, it is NOT significantly if at all thicker than a 28' NB6/8, Cossey was describing his two personal rigs) He never mentioned moving the pull handle to the other side on the NB8, only that it sits flatter. He claims anyone with skydiving experience would have taken the other B-4 rig (freefall), the difference was significant.. (For his description of his personal rigs they were very different but he wasn't describing Hayden's chutes that were sent to the plane, Hayden said they were the same/similar. Hayden's rigs would not have been significantly different, he wanted a cheap pair to satisfy regulations, not actually use them) Cossey claimed many times that the back chute left behind was returned to him. Since Hayden's chutes were used and not Cossey's he would still have both the rigs.. He can claim the one left in the plane was returned because he always had it in his possession. He must have still had the NB8 bailout rig he thought Cooper used as well, but he can't claim he has it. I think he was telling us exactly what he thought the night of the hijacking.. He was contacted and asked for 4 rigs two fronts and two backs, he said ok you can get mine from Issaquah. Emrich was getting them when he was contacted and asked to only send the two fronts as they had secured the two backs from Hayden. Cossey was not aware of this, he believed his personal back chutes were used. He was called (that night, he claims) and when the remaining back chute was described he described the missing chute, his personal NB6/8, not Hayden's. His other back chute was actually a Pioneer B-4 freefall rig and he later claimed it was returned to him because it was never used, he always had it. Another Cossey mess.. Cossey claimed the NB6/8 was Sage Green nylon container and harness, this is accurate for an NB6/8. Hayden claimed it was Olive Drab container and tan cloth harness. Inconsistent with an NB6/8 and that both his chutes were the same/similar, except colour. The NB6 was a 1950's era chute. So, about 15 years old in 1971. Not very old to fade significantly. Today those NB6's are about 70 years old and most have faded, hard to identify the colour today. Comparing the fading 70 years later vs 15 is not reasonable. There is big difference between Sage Green and Olive Drab on a 15 year old container. Hayden was not describing an NB6/8. Cossey was describing his two personal rigs, a B-4 freefall rig and a modified NB6/8 pilot bailout rig. He was NOT describing Hayden's two back bailout rigs used for NORJAK. He probably learned of his error on the 25th but never corrected it with the FBI. Cossey never supplied his packing records because they would have exposed his error.

Yes he was a pilot.

You don't know that is a fact. Where did this description come from??? not Emrich... "5:57 AM on the 25th, there is a duplicate at 5:10 AM, Where did this detailed description for both front chutes come from.. Cossey?... Cossey claimed he was contacted when the plane landed in Reno, Unless that description came from somebody else but who would know the chute colour and the shroud colour unless it was opened before being given to Cooper. " Cossey was interviewed was in person on the 26th,,, you think they didn't talk to him on the phone before an in person interview.. "Hey Coss FBI here,, come in on the 26th for an in person interview but don't tell us anything about the chutes till then.. mmmkay.." now, you are throwing out strawman stuff.. you want me to explain why Cossey had something you think he shouldn't. Cossey claimed it was his personal chute, he was a pilot and instructor.. Who knows. You don't know what he had or why. He did have an NB6 no D rings.. and he did jump with it, he claimed. It was a Cooper replica. It was not a Pioneer. Gave it to Tosaw. No, you are still wrong, a conical is not a flat circular, they are different types of canopies. Why do you keep ignoring one of the most important facts. Either Cossey is wrong or the packing card is, there is no reconciling it.

Yeah, I know all that.. that timeline does not conflict.. Cossey claimed he was called the night of the hijacking, that is not documented and may or may not be true with Cossey but when he gave the description of his personal chute he thought his chute was used not Haydens. Not everything is documented. You'd expect Cossey to have mentioned Hayden in that description.. There is no indication Cossey was aware of Hayden BEFORE he gave his first description. He must have been made aware within a day or so, 25th or 26th. Like I said. Another thing Cossey would have checked his records to confirm chutes he packed for Hayden six months earlier.. no mention. You need to address the conflicts between Cossey's description and the packing card for the missing chute.. they are too strong.. not the same rig. Maybe, take my side and try to argue it (to yourself), I think you might see it differently. There is no corroboration of Cossey's claim that Hayden's missing chute was an NB6/8... only conflicts.

It could have said Pioneer and Steinthal. It only matters indirectly.. it isn't key to this at all. Cossey refers to the chute left behind as "the pioneer", if both were Pioneers why did he call only one the Pioneer. It supports the argument that Cossey was describing his NB6 and not Hayden's missing chute. The argument doesn't require this. Not all NB6's were made by Pioneer. He probably didn't refer to it as a Pioneer because his wasn't. Key, Cossey called the canopy a "flat circular" consistent with a 28', the packing card said "conical" that is consistent with a 24'. A conical and flat circular are not the same thing, they are very different types. So, Cossey got nothing right according to the packing card for Hayden's missing back chute. He even called it an NB8 because he modded it for a 28' "flat circular", that is not a 24'.. Cossey's description and the packing card for the missing chute are incompatible. This is so simple once you see it.. This incompatibility can be reconciled.. Cossey believed his personal back chutes were going to be picked up from The Loft and given to Cooper. Emrich was getting all 4 chutes when he was contacted and told they only needed the two fronts because they had secured Hayden's two back chutes.. Cossey was never aware of Hayden's back chutes being used instead of his. Cossey was contacted and told which chutes were left behind (he claims the night of the hijacking but that isn't confirmed) and he assumed it was his NB6 used by Cooper. Cossey was sincere and provided the description of HIS NB6/8 that he thought Cooper used, not Hayden's chute. Perfectly understandable from his perspective. But he must have figured out his error within a day or so.. he just never corrected it. He continued to describe HIS personal NB6/8. He never supplies his packing records because it would expose his error. His story with the FBI was consistent because he couldn't expose his error.. his public story was shifting, changing and contradictory. There is no corroboration to Cossey's claim that Cooper's missing chute was an NB6/8. I don't even recall Cossey specifically claiming that chute packed for Hayden was an NB6/8. Hayden's missing chute was NOT a P2... those were tan mostly civilian use. There were many similar Olive Drab military versions. If you want a pair of bailout rigs for regulations, you want cheap and similar, not completely different and one customized top of the line. Makes no sense. Bottom line, Cossey and the packing card for Hayden's missing chute are incompatible... you can't pick Cossey. He told us.. he claimed many times that the rig Cooper was his personal NB6/8. We know Cossey lied to the media and Carr. He lied by omission to the FBI by not correcting his error and claiming he gave the FBI all his records, he didn't. Put on your Prosecutor hat, this is an open and shut case. Gather all the pieces and run it through the gears for a while I am confident you will see it.

Not true. The type is also inconsistent. The colour of the container, the harness v Hayden. Cossey's description is inconsistent with the packing card info. Packing card or Cossey?? Choose wisely.

Give it time, you will get this... it is beyond obvious to me. Cossey was describing HIS personal chute. A P2-B-24 was a Pioneer sub model, a mostly civilian variant. That category was not rare, that specific P2 model may be rare today since it came out around 1939. Hayden's other chute was NOT a P2-B-24, it was something similar but a military variant being olive drab. There were others, P1, P3, P4 and military variations with other numbers.. Hayden's/Cooper's chute could have been any number of those.. not rare. So, the too rare argument doesn't apply. Cossey would have figured out his mistake within a day or two, so he would not have claimed they were his to the FBI. He was contacted and honestly believed it was his NB6/8 and described it.. Hayden = Olive Drab with cloth Tan harness vs Cossey = Sage Green with Sage Green harness. These inconsistencies add up,, you can dismiss them individually as errors or misunderstandings but in totality they are clear and overwhelming. I outlined many major inconsistencies, I really don't want to keep repeating them. A 28' flat circular vs a 24' conical... NOT an error, completely incompatible on two levels. Cossey called it an NB8, that is NOT a 24' canopy. You can't dismiss this. Loaning Gear to a Friend Earlier that evening, skydiver Earl Cossey, a master rigger, received a telephone call at home. The call was from a business associate who also happened to be the manager of Sea-Tac International Airport. The airport manager asked Cossey for two backpacks and two chest-mount reserves as soon as possible but could not disclose the reason he needed them. Cossey admits he wondered about the manager’s request, “But I trusted him completely and did as I was told,” he said. Cossey called his drop zone in Issaquah, Washington, and asked a person who was staying there to collect the rigs and hand them over to authorities. Police rushed the rigs in a patrol car from the drop zone to Sea-Tac International. Later that evening, Cossey heard on the news that there was a hijacking in progress. He was stunned at the revelation that this was why the authorities had asked for his parachutes. “I thought, ‘Oh crap! There go my parachutes!’ ” Cossey recalled. “I was just laughing at the stupidity of that guy and thought, ‘This guy’s nuts.’” Either you believe Cossey or the missing chute packing card info,,, it can't be both. It isn't so simple as Cossey owned the chest reserves and it was assumed he was the previous owner of Hayden's chutes. Cossey is the only source of the NB6/8 claim, since he got the rest of his description wrong why does this have any cred... it doesn't. Anyway, I am done with this subject and 100% confident.. This will be accepted by everyone a year from now.

Dan Gryder's found chute,, Ryan nailed it in his videos, I don't know where he gets the patience but it is not even an NB6... It is an AF B-4 harness and that might be a B-12 container.. Similar to this.. and similar... the one on the right, notice it is a converted right side pull (the left one is an earlier version) That 1943 Hayes canopy Dan Gryder is claiming was Cooper's was not.. it was a 1960 Steinthal. So, the crazy irony of all this mess is that Gryder claims it matches Cossey's NB6/8, it doesn't and Cossey claimed his personal NB6 was used by Cooper, it wasn't... (In time everyone will see this) We have two compounding and intertwined layers of misinformation from Cossey and Gryder... this is difficult to explain to non Cooper experts. Now that Gryder has disparaged and blamed the FBI for lies and a coverup, he has nowhere to go but down...that was the death throes of a failing narrative and peak Dan Gryder. No Dan Gryder, when you read this.. that wasn't Cooper's canopy or container.. easily debunked... and McCoy wasn't Cooper, you didn't solve the case you made a fool of yourself on national media. The McCoy kids seem sincere but don't know the two hijacking cases very well. McCoy was not Cooper.

Skip Hall is eliminated.. let's be real and stop wasting time. Some suspects/POI's can be eliminated easily others can't without more information. It is actually difficult to eliminate most suspects.. Skip is easy to eliminate. You need to be honest here, Hall's forehead is not Cooper's, no witness mentioned those severe lines and they are SEVERE.. That is so unique it would never be missed. He might as well have had a tattoo on his forehead. Hahneman's missing teeth in context. Don't believe everything you hear. Only one person out of about 50 made that claim. You cannot explain any plausible way for all NORJAK witnesses to miss Skip Hall's extremely creased forehead. Once you see it you can't unsee it. I know many people are friends of Limbach or Cunningham and that may cause them to avoid being critical, but you know I am right. If people want to treat the Vortex as a social club that is fine,, it is not my thing. If I see something that obvious I'll point it out, it isn't personal... You want to got down rabbit holes for entertainments sake, go ahead. also, Skip's scar on the cheek may have been temporary, so it can be plausibly explained and not dispositive whereas the severe forehead lines cannot be explained...

Cossey still claimed they were his chutes. Some took that to mean his before they were sold to Hayden. I did find a news article where Cossey admitted that the chutes came from Hayden. Cossey's stories changed and conflicted over the years.. he told different stories to different people. If he thought his chutes were being sent to Cooper when did he learn that Hayden's chutes were used?? We don't know.

You weren't wrong, I should have been more specific in my terminology... I do that sometimes trying to recall specific things.. this issue is complex and not easy to convey clearly. There is a ton of info, nuance and detail that gets overwhelming to write out... I have 10,000 files on this... and I am having a hard time keeping everything straight. Cossey used "round" and "flat circular" to describe the 28' canopy. A "flat circular" is consistent with a 28' and it is not a 24' "conical" as described by the packing card. Remember Cossey referred to it as a modified NB6 and an NB8, that does NOT match a 24' canopy. An analogy might be putting wider wheels on your car but narrower tires,, yeah it is possible but not really done. I have not been able to find a 24' in an normal NB6 or as Cossey called his an NB8. In regards to Cossey it makes no sense for a 24' to be in an "NB-8".. it just didn't happen. Of all things I posted in that long comment I thought this was the least controversial... I am 100% on this, Cossey believed his personal NB6 was used by Cooper, he was describing that rig, not Hayden's. His description conflicts with the packing card for the missing chute and Hayden's description. The light bulb moment was reading that Emrich was about to grab 4 chutes, 2 backs and 2 fronts for The Loft but was contacted and told to only send the fronts as they had secured Hayden's chute. Hayden said his missing chute was Olive Drab,,, NB6's are Sage Green. Hayden needed a pair of cheap bailout rigs to meet regulations, he never intended to use them, it make sense that he bought two similar cheap WW2 era container vs one newer premium modified NB6. So, Cossey sitting at home quite reasonably believed that Cooper got his personal back chutes from Issaquah. He was told a tan chute was left so he assumed Cooper took his personal NB6/8. Cossey would have figured this error out within days but never clarified. Cossey would have checked his packing records and known he got it wrong. He never gave the FBI his records as that would have exposed his error. He even told the FBI that he gave them everything he had, the FBI said they never got them. Cossey was being considered to jump the test recreation, if he came clean and said he got the chute wrong he would have lost cred.. Ultimately, he wasn't use for the test and was not happy with the FBI. This is solid. Put all the pieces together and test it. That is the only explanation for all the inconsistencies. So, Cossey screwed the FBI, screwed Carr, screwed the media, screwed researchers and the Vortex... The takeaway is the FBI was looking for the wrong chute and it may have been found and rejected,, that probably wouldn't have given us Cooper's identification but it would have helped. We can no longer say nothing was found,,, WE don't know. This is a big deal. I have looked at the found chutes in the files and there is no way to assess them. Cossey screwed everything.