FLYJACK

ok, not sure if this works, a flying tour of the potential float path from the St Johns dump to TBAR in 2002 (image).. Download file open in GOOGLE EARTH..

also, it wouldn't just be the hijacker passing the bills, 10,000 bills passed 20 times is 200,000 passes... some of those bills would have been still in circ well into the eighties, but is it possible, sure but less likely.. not much weight to this other than to widen suspects to US and foreign..

I never meant to establish that the lack of money turning up ONLY leads to a suspect outside the US, (hence my demolished house dump theory) My goal was to come up with NEW theories as my assumption is that the most obvious ones have been explored.. if the nearly 200,000 grand was dispersed into the system, I would expect at least one bill to turn up somewhere, but no bills turning up doesn't exclude the possibility that they all made it to destruction unnoticed. Further, in the context of other information/theories, there has been suggestions that "Cooper" could be a foreigner. The circumstantial details for my "foreign" suspect are mind blowing, but inconclusive.. So, this is logic, the lack of money found in the system (ex TBAR) supports a foreigner in the context of other information. The lack of money does not advance a US citizen whatsoever, it is a dead end logically. Though it is entirely possible the money was spent in the US and never found in the system, that assumption doesn't move the ball anywhere and the ball hasn't moved for a long time. EDIT, Simply, no money turning up = US or foreigner while money turning up = US, so the lack of money is meaningless to advance exclusively a US person as a suspect. BTW, I am not in the US, so perhaps I might bring a different perspective.

My focus has been to look at new suspects and theories, not to suggest one of the current suspects is not the hijacker but they have been already looked at thoroughly with no resolution and others are researching them. I am trying to come up with "NEW" ideas. The dump theory is pure logic,, create a logic tree starting from the cash at TBAR and follow it. The branches that end can't be followed. However, some branches keep going, follow them as far as possible. For example, if the cash came to TBAR from the dump in a paper bag it could have gotten into the dump many ways, but almost all of them are a dead end in logic and can't be pursued, except the demolished house/death theory. I have have 3 prevailing Macro theories, there may be others, because no money was found other than TBAR and the case hasn't been resolved He died in the jump.. a logical dead end without new evidence He was a foreigner and took the cash outside the US.. matches my "NEW" suspect and I have a name, but is strong circumstantial, the only way to advance exclude/include is obtaining fingerprints and possible DNA and I will get that personal document.. He survived, stashed the cash then lost control/access to the money.. matches the TBAR cash, dump, demolished house after death theory, can be pursued. There may be other potential theories. I did find an old residential property on the Columbia Slough that looks like it had a backyard landslide into the water. I found the address but haven't taken that branch anywhere. Probably nothing, just looked interesting.. http://goo.gl/maps/ZDTt2 http://binged.it/1biq8bs If the cash got into the dump, it is reasonable to assume that it was unintentional. For the demolished house/death theory, look up death records that match the right age range for the suspect in 1971, then use geography, start closest to the dump, find the addresses, compare to property record, example maybe a house was built in 1979 at the address of someone that died in 1978. you might have a new suspect, the logic branch keeps going until you hit a dead end. Is "Coopers" name in this Oregon death list,,, any ring any bells (parse male deaths from 1972-1979) then find addresses and check property data, This is the Oregon side, but can be done for the Washington side. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ordeath&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&msbdy=1938&msddy=1975&msddy_x=1&msddm_x=1&msddd_x=1&msdpn__ftp=Portland%2C+Multnomah%2C+Oregon%2C+USA&msdpn=62720&msdpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C1652393%7C0%7C2%7C3248%7C40%7C0%7C2125%7C62720%7C0%7C&uidh=000&msbdd=1&msbdm=1&msbdp=10&msddd=1&msddm=1&msddp=5 AND I AM NOT WRITING A BOOK,, I couldn't write my way out of a wet paper bag full of money. ...

Like R99, I think your theory involving the dump is completely valid. I think it's a low probability theory but it is a possibility. I don't know any 'markers' in the money that would connect with a dump specifically, or the slough specifically, but this is in the early phase and I rather think people are pondering the issue. As far as this forum is concerned - its the best thing that has come up here in a long time ... and it's REFRESHING to have! Congrats! might have to expand the search area.. "According to Speirs, the entire business woke the rest of Portlanders up to the mess that was happening in St. Johns (he claims that garbage trucks came from as far as Kalama, Washington, to creep into the side-streets like North Taft to illegally dump their loads) and the resulting furor eventually resulted in closing the landfill." The landfill was covered with dredged sand, but in the 70's it was a full open landfill with the Columbia Slough completely surrounding it. map http://binged.it/1cGHSOL ..

After some thinking on this,,how does this THEORY jive with the evidence.. If Cooper survived, he would have stashed the cash, probably in his residence, hidden in the attic, floor, walls etc. He would have likely stashed it right away in 1971/2 and you would put the cash in a paper bag(s) to protect it and conceal it. Plastic less likely back then. Cooper then loses access to the money, he may have died or gone to prison thinking he can go back for it. Subsequently the residence is demolished later in the 70's and the debris goes to the St John landfill in the middle of the Columbia Slough. A paper bag with cash bundles inside gets into the Columbia Slough, about a (EDIT 6) mile float to TBAR, that paper bag would protect the cash but deteriorate quite quickly and the cash would be deposited intact. COMPARING the addresses of males 35-60 who resided within 25 miles of the dump who either died or went to prison after 1972 WITH addresses of dwellings that were demolished or new builds (replacement) during the mid to late 70's might payoff. Perhaps permit records still exist but all homes have build dates recorded. If you find a match, you might have your guy.. and the rest of the cash is in the Landfill. I ran a search and found about 60 male death records in the age range and time frame. edit, down to about 25 individuals in Multinomah..

thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag no obvious diatoms were found, according to Kaye. thats all I know. This is from Kaye's website. "The modern bills soaked in the Columbia River were examined using a scanning electron microscope (SEM.) At least three different species of fresh water diatoms were found immediately. Subsequent examination of the Cooper bills found no diatoms. Not seeing any diatoms on the Cooper bills does not guarantee that they are not there, so any final conclusions on this would be speculative."

Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location It is listed as "VANW: Columbia River at Vancouver" where VANW is probably the symbol for the gage. Here is a web page that may have linking information to the Vancouver information. http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil 71 is missing only 72+ is there max (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:VANW+record://VANW/HG//1DAY/MAX/+psy:+psm:+psd:+pey:+pem:+ped:+pk:id.vanw it is referred to as the old gauge max, mean , min 72+ (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:vanw

a recent news clip about the dump.. http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/St-Johns-landfill-to-become-public-park-213246631.html

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Your theory is as good as any other to explain how that money ended up at Tina Bar. There are a couple of things to remember, though. First, the AMOUNT found. Now if you are going to have this money travel for miles, then this makes it tougher to explain how more than one bundle ended up being found in the same exact spot. This almost has to assume the money was in a container, but no container or evidence of a bag was ever found, even after an extensive dig by the FBI and volunteers. Second, there is Tom Kaye and his Citizen Sleuths assessment of the cash. They were allowed to examine the bills. Kaye thinks the bills were not moved by water. He states a few points why HERE. I've suggested that someone here question Kaye more closely and try to pin him down further on the question of the bills being affected by possible travel by water. If one were to stash cash in a house attic, floor or wall or dwelling, it seems reasonable to speculate that it may be in a plastic bag or other material, to keep it clean and dry... I would do that,, though there was no plastic bag found.. it would keep the bills intact during the 3-4 mile float.. That dump had a lot of activity and expansion over the years. The deposit on TBAR would be virtually intact if in a plastic bag.. Then the rest of that money may be in that dump, but nobody would throw it in the dump intentionally.. I wonder if is possible to match addresses of male deaths with house demolitions or new construction dates.

Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location

thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag

Flyjack, this possible source has not been considered before to the best of my knowledge. I would like to defer further comment on this to a future date. In any event, I'll go where the facts indicate. If you can find a source for the early 1970s Columbia River data, please post or PM immediately. Both Georger and I will probably have trouble keeping our feet on the planet if you find that data. In the meantime, stay tuned and keep the faith. As mentioned earlier, the wheels are moving and time is of the essence. Robert99 what data are you looking for,, Historical Crests for Columbia River at Vancouver (1) 31.00 ft on 06/13/1948 (2) 30.80 ft on 06/01/1948 (3) 27.70 ft on 12/25/1964 (4) 27.60 ft on 06/04/1956 (5) 27.20 ft on 02/09/1996 (6) 26.30 ft on 06/19/1933 (7) 26.20 ft on 05/31/1928 (8) 26.00 ft on 06/12/1921 (9) 25.90 ft on 06/26/1950 (10) 25.60 ft on 06/16/1903 (11) 25.44 ft on 01/19/1965 (12) 25.30 ft on 06/22/1917 (13) 25.30 ft on 06/03/1916 (14) 25.20 ft on 06/13/1913 (15) 22.55 ft on 01/03/1997 (16) 21.50 ft on 06/12/1972 (17) 21.10 ft on 06/22/1974 (18) 19.54 ft on 01/24/1970 (19) 19.03 ft on 06/05/1997 (20) 18.50 ft on 12/01/1995 (21) 17.50 ft on 04/27/1996 (22) 17.43 ft on 06/02/2011 (23) 16.80 ft on 02/02/1997 (24) 15.00 ft on 12/30/1998 (25) 12.32 ft on 11/26/1999

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation." Dates these dumps were affected by high water 1971-1980 ? Still looking for water levels.. though the activity may have dislodged it. EDIT

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation."

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died...

There is also a steel truss rail bridge that crosses the Columbia Slough, i searched this forum for info on possible activity in the Slough prior to 1980 that may dislodge the cash,, nothing here,, but I did find an internal proposal with specific options dated 1975 for work in the Slough.. Were any of these carried out,, http://www.ccrh.org/comm/slough/primary/jamiehart.htm "July 25, 1975 From xxxxx xxxx To Commissioner xxxxxx Addressed to Subject Columbia Slough Flood Control Project The study of the Columbia Sough began in 1966 with the DMJM plan for Rivergate and the North Portland Peninsula sponsored by the Port of Portland, the city and the county. From 1968-69, the Corps of Engineers completed recognizance studies of the Rivergate/North Portland Area, but suspended work until a separate study was completed by a special task force made up of members of the North Portland Peninsula Study in December of 1972 and recommended the closure of Columbia Slough for flood control and the development of the banks of the slough and Smith and Bybee Lakes for recreation. The work of the task force was adopted by the Port. The Corps of Engineers then began detailed recreational development which were presented at a public hearing on June 19, 1974. At that hearing, representatives of the city, the Port and the county presented position papers. All three of the agencies gave public support to Plan 1 as proposed by the Corps of Engineers. The Corps of Engineers has completed its report on the project and has selected Plan #1 as the proposed action." Proposed Action For purposes of discussion, the slough has been divided into the lower slough and the upper slough. The lower slough is the western end from Kelly Point Park to the Peninsula Drainage Canal. The upper slough is that area encompassed by the Multnomah County Drainage District. Essentially, the upper features of this proposed action are flood control, recreational development, and cultivation of fish and wildlife. The primary element in the proposed action is the closure of Columbia Slough at its juncture with the Willamette River just south of Kelly Point Park. The closure would necessitate a 170,000 GPM capacity pumping plant which would be provided at the closure site so that interior drainage could be evacuated during high stages in the Willamette River. In addition, the three gaps in the Port of Portland's landfill would be closed by the Bonneville Way Levee, the North Portland Harbor Levee Flood Wall, and a closure embankment in the Columbia Slough. In addition, modifications to existing flood control facilities would be made in three drainage districts. The sewer outfalls and the levee flood wall of the Peninsula Drainage District #1 would be closed off, and part of the levee of the Peninsula Drainage District #2 along Marine Drive would be reinforced. Levees along the Columbia Slough in three drainage districts would not then be reinforced because high flood stages would not occur in the slough.

There are a lot of steel (iron) bridges on the west and northwest side of Portland primarily on the Willamette and other secondary streams. The steel I5 bridge over the Columbia has a drawbridge if I remember correctly. However, it is very unlikely that Gustave Eiffel (1832-1923) had anything to do with these bridges. His crowning achievement was the Eiffel tower which was completed in 1889 as part of the preparations for the 1889 World's Fair (or Universal Exposition) in Paris. After the Eiffel tower, Gustave seems to have devoted his interests to other scientific matters instead of engineering structures. Robert99 I searched google maps and my picture with a "Dan Cooper" in it resembles the train bridge EDIT (WEST) of I5, there is a road right there, I assume that bridge was there in 1971,, Has anybody searched around the bridge/shore area... it is a short float to TBar from there. here is the google image.. edit, it could also be on the other side of Hayden island crossing the Columbia,,

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. I can hardly believe it someone with humor sadly happaly thank you Sir. I'm from earth to. It been along time. The bridge of the Gods is up the Gorge on Hy 14,it is very tall. But the money was planted for sure 100 percent. It was confirmed to me. And the location of the money before it was put there.It's in my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13. But I see you don't want to cloud your judgment with with books. Sounds good. You want fact's only. Well The ticket is fact 1971 that night the letter's are fact 1971 1972 Letter's to FBI are Fact 1971 1972 And the DNA under the stamps fact It matches KENNETH P C on 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA fact This case is solved as of 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett fact Call Curtis ENG FBI SEATTLE WA FACT Well, I wouldn't bash others theories, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated.. Was there any DNA found on the ticket?? Is there any DNA from the hijacker?? other than cigarettes than may be missing The ticket has KENNETH's writing on it the name DAN COOPER ONLY.and the letter's match KENNETH'S writing that were sent to the new's papers ,FBI and MAX GUNTHER Have his hand writing on them 1971 1972 The stamp's have his DNA under them and that's when Curtis said solved and Paul you can go to the media. You did it I will call LARRY CARR right now. Paul Geivett VAN 9 same as the VAN 9 Letter 99 what are the odd's of that Van 9 and Van 9 it scared me the first time. The RENo Letter has Kenneth's name in it this is my own video All me on my own but71 not 74 I was corrected GC 148 . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atTJ_aEA8WQ it is not fact that the writing on the ticket is the hijacker. Hand writing analysis is not fact, more art. Actually the writing on the ticket suggests one person wrote all. The hand writing on those letters match Kenny in some places and don't in others, randomness of patterns. It is not fact that the DNA matches the stamp, but assuming it does, and that info is being withheld that puts Kennys saliva on a stamp not on the hijacked plane.. So, your suspect is circumstantial, as is mine and maybe 1000 others.. It falls short of proof, unless you "believe" that there is a cover up, but there is no proof of that. I wouldn't suggest that Kenny isn't the guy,, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated but my process is to try to eliminate my suspect, while it seems most are trying to include their suspect. The facts of this case are actually very thin which forces a lot of speculation, but you need "theory" until you can put somebody on the plane.. My gut feeling is he died in the jump, but I have to rule out my suspect.

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. I can hardly believe it someone with humor sadly happaly thank you Sir. I'm from earth to. It been along time. The bridge of the Gods is up the Gorge on Hy 14,it is very tall. But the money was planted for sure 100 percent. It was confirmed to me. And the location of the money before it was put there.It's in my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13. But I see you don't want to cloud your judgment with with books. Sounds good. You want fact's only. Well The ticket is fact 1971 that night the letter's are fact 1971 1972 Letter's to FBI are Fact 1971 1972 And the DNA under the stamps fact It matches KENNETH P C on 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA fact This case is solved as of 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett fact Call Curtis ENG FBI SEATTLE WA FACT Well, I wouldn't bash others theories, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated.. Was there any DNA found on the ticket?? Is there any DNA from the hijacker?? other than cigarettes that may be missing

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. There is no major bridge near where it was found! Above water, or below water, or in Spain either! JHC! Has this thread gone mushugannah? I originally thought Bridge of the Gods, are there any closer ones to compare?? I am sure it sounds crazy but I have picture of a confirmed Dan Cooper at a steel truss bridge with an object marked on it, and it shows mountains in the background. I figured it was the North side..

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today.

It takes 3 to 4 months for money to lose its tensile strength with sand and water from Tian br. I have done it. I have a jar with money in it right now in front of me with 7 months of rot. I will make a video right now if you like.I will compare with fresh dollar to 7 months of rot. Money falls apart at 3 month time frame with Columbia river sand and water. To much time on my hands GC 148 The Gray Cop page 1971 cool Were there any steel truss bridges in 1971 near the location that the money was found. Or the closet one upstream?

(Guessing here, since Mitchell first says he didn't notice Cooper being swarthy or dark skin tone, but then says he didn't recall seeing a pretty white guy. This doesn't make a lot of sense. I would have to listen to the audio to see if the transcription is correct. I would guess Mitchell actually MEANT to say he didn't recall seeing anything but a pretty white guy. Hard to tell what he really meant there. If the audio is accurate with the transcript, then this question should be re-addressed with Mitchell.) NOTE: I don't believe Mitchell was interviewed by Geoff Gray. I think the only Mitchell testimony Gray used was from Gray's access to the FBI witness reports. In that, Mitchell claimed the hijacker was no more than five foot nine. Quote from the Dawn Andrusko interview, sister of Bernie Geestman: ***'I asked her if Kenny had ever worn a toupee. She said yes, but added that he never wore it on the job, only socially sometimes and not very often. I pinned her down on the last time she had actually seen him wear it. No, she said, she had not seen him wear it after 1971. He had taken to wearing baseball hats instead...' Bills description of the suspect matches my suspect.. White guy turkey neck hair odd looking, possible toupee Also, he claimed suspect always had sunglasses on,,, this attached image is my suspect, but let me explain it, the image is a still from a transition gif between the DB Cooper sketch and a photo of my suspect at 65-70 (guess). I did not distort the images, only laid one on top of another. The glasses are from my suspect, I darkened them slightly to give the appearance of sunglasses (they are regular glasses on original) only for this image not the transition as Bill Mitchell said he had sunglasses the entire time he saw him, believe it or not there two faces in this image, the shape of the face and head, location of the eyes, eyebrows, hair, nose lips, ears are a dead ringer. Including a turkey neck... gobble gobble Note,, This is a few frames short of the full 100% transition to my suspect.. I think Bill Mitchell should look at this...

There is another angle that I think has been overlooked, it has nothing to do with my suspect, I did not come up with a suspect looking into this.. but it is interesting.. About 30 minutes North of the US/Canadian Peace Arch border is a community called Maillardville, a suburb of Vancouver BC, my grandparents grew up there. it is the largest French Canadian community in the West, a substantial community. They were very blue collar, fully french/english bilingual, extremely french Canadian culturally, smokers, drinkers and military.. they love and celebrate the military most of them were in WW2. Most were born there but were fully french Canadian. My grandparents and their friends would drive to Reno or Vegas every year for their vacation. It was common to cross the border and shop or do day trips. So, when I read the FBIs "cooper" suspect description, it resonated with my knowledge of that community. I thought that Cooper may have come from that community. So, I started to research the possible connection to the titanium on the tie and Canada was a titanium producer and there were companies in the area that used titanium, in fact I found one still in existence today that was started in 1970, DO THEY STILL HAVE EMPLOYEE RECORDS. At this point I got sidetracked with that other suspect and haven't followed up on a possible Maillardville connection, but it should be investigated. There was a letter sent to the local Vancouver "The Province" newspaper and the Reno letter, though it is likely a hoaxer. http://www.maillardville.com/index.php/en/history