FLYJACK

We need to put the wind in context.. the FBI ADMITTED that the winds were an ESTIMATE (Sorry Robert and Eric) using data from Salem and Portland and averaged between 8 PM and 9 PM. Salem and Portland are far from the LZ. The winds near the LZ and placard were not a fact and if you drill down into the data it appears it was likely off. The winds nearer 8 PM were Southerly. Tom Kaye looking at the data claimed the winds were consistent all the way down and more Southerly than estimate. However, like the FBI data his data set was still far from the LZ. "The two closest locations were Salem just south of Portland and Quillayute Bruce said was just west of Seattle. They launch twice a day at 5pm and 5am so that is the data we have. I had him pull a second random day Nov 11 for comparison and you can see that the winds then were actually east near the ground. Nov 24 looks pretty consistent all the way down but seems to be more southerly than we had estimated. Now you can do a proper analysis." Tom Kaye If you look at the data in the FBI files, the wind was clearly from the ESE to S.. and if Tom’s assertion that it was consistent all the way down then the FBI wind estimate was off and the wind was actually more in line with the flight path. That would mean Cooper drifted back essentially along the flight path. The SSE to S wind around 8 PM is supported by other historical data. The assumption made was using data Salem and Portland data and then averaging it over an hour.. The winds were shifting from ESE near 8 PM to SSW nearer 9 PM. Anybody claiming the wind at the LZ or placard is a fact is 100% wrong, even the FBI claimed it was an ESTIMATE. The FBI did revise the wind direction estimate to be more southerly spinning the LZ slightly. The search area moved slightly West.

I don't see the money going through a suction dredge and ending up as it did. But, speculation has its place and is necessary to advance things like all cases, however, not all speculation is created equal. In this case, all speculation is attacked disparaged and ridiculed as bad thing, that is nonsense. Speculation should be judged as reasonable or unreasonable. The reason this case is so fascinating is because there are actually few 100% facts. An alternate flight path is unreasonable speculation as it is contradicted by many facts. The dredge is reasonable speculation, (I just don't think the money would go through and end up like it did).

This matches and confirms the FBI flight path. Norjak veered East (about 8:12, jump estimate) and then turned right, this is incompatible with a western flightpath. FBI FILE #10 P419 __________ WAS INFORMED _________ PORTLAND AIRPORT, THAT TWO CHASE PLANES WHICH WERE FOLLOWING FIVE MILES BEHIND HIJACKED AIRCRAFT SUDDENLY VEERED TO THE EAST AND THEREAFTER MADE A RIGHT TURN. THE POINT OF THEIR CHANGE OF COURSE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IN TIME AND LOCATION TO THAT BELIEVED WHERE THE UNSUB DEPARTED THE AIRCRAFT.

It looks like termite damage. I am looking into the few species of termites in the PNW.. there are two types,, dampwood termite and subterranean termite.

Complete bunk… The FBI walked back the Cowlitz Sheriff claims to say they could NOT confirm the Placard was from Norjak. Evidence suggests it is unlikely. The wind was NOT a fact, according to FBI docs it was an estimate based from Portland and Salem averaged over an hour. Wind data closer to the area and jump zone have winds from the SSE to S. Robert Nicholson’s placard drift calculations are wrong. The flight path is backed up by the AF, F106 Pilots, Boeing, NWA and ATC…. The TBAR money being found on TBAR doesn’t mean Cooper landed nearby and buried it there, that is poor logic. Eric’s confirmation bias has ignored and distorted facts to push his extremely speculative theory. The premise for a western flightpath is about as weak as you can get.

Found something interesting… The FBI files show that Cooper used two matchbooks.. One his and one supplied by Tina. Tosaw’s book distinguishes further. According to Tina the matchbook Cooper had said “Earn a High School Diploma” and Tina went to grab company matches from a cabinet.. Cooper recovered and took the first empty matchbook. Sky Chef supplied catering for flights.. That “suggests” the Sky Chef matches did not come from Cooper at all but were grabbed by Tina on the plane. I found these vintage matchbooks,, from ICS in Scranton PA. Also from Tosaw’s book.. Cooper had 2 drinks. Money in packets of $2000 strapped in PAPER BANDS and some had additional rubber bands, corroborates Tina, H and Bank letter to FBI.. Cooper offered 2 packets of money to stews, other than Tina. Cooper demanded flaps down but flight ops was calculating range and they went back and asked Cooper, he then said 15 degrees. Soderlind suggested SF or LA, and a second stop in Yuma.. and “Cooper was advised that it wasn’t necessary for the plane to stop anywhere in the US, but in any event he did not want to stop at either SF or LA because those cities were too big.” Reno was suggested by Soderlind and Cooper agreed.

L55376548B was the bill on the top one of the of the packets the Ingrams had that Ralph Himmelsbach Id'd as matching the FBI list. This top bill is NOT blackened, if the FBI did use Silver Nitrate to fingerprint bills they would have fingerprinted this bill, the top one, they didn't. There was no record of SN being used and this bill would have been the primary target for fingerprinting.

Name.. Most rational people would deduce that Cooper using a shortened version of his real name would virtually eliminate him as a suspect,, Would Cooper use a version of his real name.. doesn't fit his profile, meticulous, serious?? Didn't want to leave ANY clues behind.. He wouldn't have used his own abbreviated name.. Dan. Comic.. The Dan Cooper comics were published in about 16 languages but not in english. They included French, German, Korean, Arabic, Spanish and a Mexican Spanish version.. since Cooper was described as Latin/Swarthy/Mexican the Mexican/Spanish version would be a more likely source of exposure (if any) rather than the French Canadian theory. The Dan Cooper comics were not childish, they were extremely technical and even political. Many non-English military aviators read them.. After studying these Comics extensively, it is likely a coincidence or Cooper may have had some exposure to the Mexican Spanish version.

The FDR has a "little bob" at 8:09 so that is the lower bound time. The rear door closing is an old theory.. I doubt Cooper would have closed the door himself, however the door may have swung partially closed... maybe it was swinging,, some planes have an open lock mechanism.. but I don't see one here on this early 727.. https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=rtPb7TAsPC8

The irony, Eric is doing exactly what he claims other's are.. Eric doesn't address the evidence but attacks the messenger (ME), he is trying to push his extremely speculative narrative.. Eric goes beyond ignoring facts contrary to his narrative, he tries to discredit the messenger. Fact, the FBI walked back the Cowlitz Sheriff claim that the placard came from NORJAK, the placard is inconsistent with 727 internal emergency airstair placards. There is no confirmation the placard came from NORJAK, NONE. This was stated after the FBI investigation. The wind... Eric ignores the source for the wind data... and claims it is a fact. It was a guess, a proxy, they used the wind data averaged over an hour 8-9PM from Salem and Portland.. far from the placard and the LZ area. In fact, wind data 7-8PM had the wind ESE to S closer to the Placard and LZ. The wind was shifting, it was not a known fact. This is clearly stated in the FBI files. IT WAS AN ESTIMATE,,, NOT A FACT. the FBI SAYS SO.. The chutes, There weren't six chutes delivered to Cooper. FACT.. According to the packing card, the back chute returned to Hayden does not match the description/SN found on the back chute left by Cooper. That means at some point there must have been more than 2 back chutes involved somewhere. The airstairs,, Eric can't read the transcripts.. which are far more accurate than the 302 summaries he relies on to advance his bogus theory. Cooper's initial demand was to have stairs lowered in flight, there is no question about it. AFT STAIRS TO BE LOWERED AFTER TAKEOFF... The pilots were the ones that suggested lowering for takeoff as a means to convince Cooper to allow Tina to leave so they could escape. WANTS HER TO MANIPULATE STAIRS FOR HIM AFTER PLANE AIRBORNE.. TRYING TO GET HIM TO LET US LOWER STAIRS PARTIALLY FOR TAKEOFF Eric is being completely dishonest, he does have a Cooper docufiction to sell.. Disagreements are one thing, this is self serving goal seeking. Eric is a "Cooper Con"

Small stained fragment... not likely from fingerprinting..

Maybe Eric should change the name from "Cooper Con" to something else.

There is no record of the FBI using SN.. but, that doesn't mean they didn't. I carefully examined the images and tried to find the bills id'd as the top ones of those initial 12 piles. Those would have been the best candidates for SN fingerprinting. I couldn't find them as blackened,, the blackened ones seemed random and internal. This is odd. There were reports of blackened bills prior to the FBI getting them. and Applying SN to fingerprint would not leave an inconsistent pattern like that shown on some of the bills. Diluted SN solution was an old school method to mark ransom money. Some bills are partially stained, some very light, some random, some very dark, some edges only.. that doesn't suggest SN fingerprinting. Something else happened to cause that inconsistent staining. The only thing I can think of is SN marking, though washing the bills in Clorox may have done something. I am skeptical that all/any of the staining was from undocumented/unreported SN fingerprinting. The patterns on some bills don't match. Something undisclosed happened here. Perhaps not all the staining is actually SN..

SN is permanent on money.. and the Ingram's washed the money prior to the FBI getting the money for fingerprinting. Apparently they used Clorox which contains sodium chloride, it reacts with,,,, SN. But,, Let's look at the facts.. Tom Kaye found SN on the bills. An FBI agent told Tom SN was generally used for fingerprinting in the 1970's. The FBI never admitted to using SN on the Cooper bills and there was no record of it. Tom looked for evidence of blackened bills before the FBI got them and didn't find any. Therefore, Tom assumed the SN was from SN fingerprinting. The irregular and partial staining on some of the bills (like I posted above) in inconsistent with the SN fingerprint process. This and some other bills with irregular/partial staining pattern is inconsistent with the SN fingerprinting process. SN was an old school method for marking ransom money. It can be sprayed with a SN diluted solution which will stain the money over time with UV exposure. A covert method to mark money. If the FBI did mark the money with SN, that would be something they would hold back. Facts, there was darkened/blackened money mentioned by Brian and the Fazios prior to the FBI getting it for fingerprinting. Some of the staining patterns on the bills is consistent with SN marking and inconsistent with SN fingerprinting. SN fingerprinting was an assumption, the staining pattern on some of those bills is inconsistent with that,, where did the SN come from?? Marking the bills with SN is consistent,, is there any other explanation??

There is evidence that the SN was not from fingerprinting. It is possible, but it could have been from marking/spraying the money bundles with an SN solution prior to giving them to Cooper. These bills are inconsistent with SN fingerprinting.... partial/random staining..

If you want to track "Dan Cooper" and Albert Weinberg around Seattle google "Objectif Jumbo" for images or better yet pick up a cheap copy on EBAY... He even toured the Boeing plant... the Lake Tipsoo image (and another) were in a different Dan Cooper comic. The takeaway is... the French Canadian angle is not the only one.. Dan Cooper comics were published for Mexico in Spanish.. a more likely source for exposure, if at all, considering the legit Latin/Mexican descriptions of Cooper. Is that black figure in the back on the right (visual left) DB Cooper??

Well, I generally agree but the "partial" DNA is useless. 10-20% of the population. There needs to be a new test with new tech. The problem with getting the FBI info is.. they already have it and couldn't or wouldn't take a case to the DOJ for prosecution. Either they didn't have a strong enough case or the DOJ squashed it. I am Canadian so not entirely familiar with US Federal Prosecutions but my understanding is the FBI does the investigation then sends it to the DOJ for consideration, they decide on a prosecution. The DOJ can be pressured or influenced outside the strict application of the law.

Dan Cooper comic research…. I dug deep into the Dan Cooper comics and found some amazing things… Albert Weinberg was in Seattle and Florida in the mid 1960’s. He was researching stories for his comics.. his method was to draw from reality so he took many many pictures.. He did write a comic based around Seattle, not the well known L’AFFAIRE MINOS but it was OBJECTIF JUMBO that took place all around Seattle. There are many Seattle images in this comic. I also found an airplane that matched a real plane which belonged to an American pilot on the east coast. That plane was kept in Europe. I investigated that pilot and his circle for any possible connection to NORJAK but didn’t find anything. One idea was that the hijacker may have met Albert Weinberg while he was in the US researching his comic, I didn’t find anything there. But the most interesting thing I found was an image in another Dan Cooper comic of Lake Tipsoo in Wa State.. Albert Weinberg was there, took a photo and used it in one of his comics. Notice it matches Bruce’s Mountain News banner…. of Mt Rainier. Finally, I discovered that the Dan Cooper comics were published in many languages including Spanish. There was a Mexican/Spanish publication of the Dan Cooper comic.. Considering there was a legitimate hijacker Spanish/Mexico connection this may be significant. Conclusion, was the hijacker inspired by the Dan Cooper comic,, NO.. was he aware of them… maybe? Last two Comic page images are the Mexican/Spanish Dan Cooper comic edition from 1967.. The last image is Lake Tipsoo Wa... from another Dan Cooper comic.

Kaye found silver nitrate on the bills and assumed it was used for fingerprinting only because an FBI agent said it was in general use in the 70's, the FBI never admitted that it was used on TBAR bills, it is possible the SN was applied to mark the bills prior to being given to Cooper. Research shows that SN is not typically used on "wet" paper and rare in 1980. Kaye said around 14 partial DNA profiles.. Carr admitted in an interview that he knows nothing about DNA.. Mitochondrial DNA match is typically 10-20% of the population.

The Placard was not confirmed from Norjak, in fact the FBI walked back the Cowlitz Sheriff statements. It does not match the 727 internal ones. Eric ignores the evidence. It is possible, but unlikely. The wind is still a problem for Eric, they used a proxy.. Portland and Salem averaged over the 8-9PM hour. Winds closer to the LZ around 8PM were from the ESE to S. The winds at the LZ were a guess, NOT A FACT. The winds were shifting from ESE to SW... Again, Eric ignores the evidence. Ironic, Eric rejects the FBI flight path backed by multiple sources but accepts the wind by proxy. Finally, Eric repeats the classic error of logic.. not finding something in the LZ is not evidence that it is the wrong LZ. The FBI LZ is an assumption based on their inputs, IMO, it is close, if anything it may be spun around slightly based on a ESE to S wind.

TBAR bills... Tom Kaye examined 3 bills and concluded the holes were from bacteria and not insects. Tom is mostly correct, there is bacteria damage and no post deposit insect damage. However, he didn't look at all the bills and insect damage would have given the bacteria a path to the interior of the packets. There does appear to be insect damage to the bills. I searched for buried money images and none match the TBAR money, it does match insect damage plus buried. For there to be insect damage you'd need to find matching holes on bills in the same packet, I have done that. This gif fades from one bill to another and the holes match, the bills were probably not next to each other but from the same packet. Bacteria would not do this,, insect boring would. That suggests the money was stored someplace before deposited on TBAR, a dwelling perhaps. The damage resembles small termites or silverfish. My working theory is the money was hidden/stored in a "dwelling" became insect damaged and now an unusable liability it was discarded around 1978 ish ending up on TBAR. Somebody had control of the TBAR money for some time after NORJAK.. This is a fade between two different bills.

I don't need to do anything you suggest. You have avoided the question and thrown out some decoys flares... you claimed to know that the tie was produced before the funky "P" rollout, clearly you were um.. mistaken. The FBI asked a retail manager a general question about the tie, they got an uninformed general response. The Penny's employee was responding to the tie as a general representation, not the specific production timeframe. As we now know the tie can be dated within a range based on the labels. That makes the FBI Penny's investigation DOA and frankly a joke. The FBI missed this big time and screwed it up, their information is worse than useless it is wholly incorrect. Everybody thinks the tie was less than a couple years old.. 100% false. That specific tie was sold 1964-65. Later ties may have looked the same but would have had different labels. The Penny's employee would not know that. The opinion of Penny's employee without the tie manufacture "date" context is meaningless. 1966 plus the tie labels were different. Nov 24 1963 the funky "P" was first introduced for retail stores. That leaves a 1964-65 timeframe for the sale. That means about 6 years for the environment and particle exposure. If anybody needs critical thinking it is you.

The patent filing date does not = sale date. Hence, the tie sale date = 1964-65. get it. The logo was first introduced for retail stores Nov 24, 1963. Where is your proof that the new logo was used before that on the tie or any items.

The funky "P" was rolled out starting as the new retail store logo Nov 24 1963,,, the chance of that funky "P" getting incorporated onto the tie and sold in 1963 is virtually nil... your 1963 timeframe is debunked. The time frame for the tie was 1964-65.. not 1963. Evidence clearly indicates Cooper had aviation knowledge that doesn't mean he had to have worked for Boeing. If he couldn't get the airtairs open it wasn't a jail cell... at the time many hijackers were successful by going to Cuba, though I think it is self evident that Cooper was confident the airstairs could be opened in flight.

flight path.... Cooper didn't land on TBAR..