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This is the single most common misunderstanding of statistics. I have amused myself to no end with buggering people with such questions. The answer is very simple. "What is the probability that I will not experience a DMal for 35,000 jumps" and "What is the probability of a DMal on my next jump" are two completely different questions. The people with 35,000 jumps are no more likely to experience a DMal than you are, it's just that there are a lot less such people. This means that the chances of a person who is just starting to survive to 34,000 are comparably small, hence there are few such people (more likely because people quit skydiving, but that's an aside). Once you make it to those jump numbers, however, the original calculation makes no more sense. Here's a very simple question. Let's say I've rolled a fair die 999 times and 6 never showed up. What is the probability I get 6 on the next roll? 1/6, of course. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Ah, the beautiful sunny Burnaby view Did you do this jump with Glen or Dave? I can't remember WrongWay, these pictures don't convey his relaxation very well. Something must be wrong with this boy, he just doesn't realize what he's doing -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

:5:1 Winter jumps, yay. Cold but very beautiful. First Mr Bill, too. Here's a very serious tip for posterity that I'm considering writing up at S&T. When doing a Mr Bill, make sure that the person who is going to IAD you is going to shortline you. Throwing the PC right after the pair exits is a very bad idea. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Ron, I have learned much from your posts, and you are definitely trying very hard to keep us lowtimers safe. I really do appreciate what you are doing. But please, what you did to Angela is just not good. Aside from considerations of her and other people's privacy, it detracts from your argument. You made your point, it really isn't necessary to grind her to dust. Remember, you're trying to help her, not reduce her to tears. Also remember that if she hates you she will not listen to you simply out of spite. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I wasn't exactly an outcast, I was just weird. I'm still weird, as anyone from my DZ will tell you (right Goose and SkyDekker?) I've accepted it and I don't care. In highschool I mostly skipped class and hung out with different people in the caf. It was fun, but a lot of those people didn't really like me much, and a lot of them I just couldn't bear to be around because of who they were. It's much better for me to be in my college where there's a small company of freaks I hang out with, and the DZ where everyone are accepting and look out and care about you. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Nothing like browsing webpages with Lynx when you're feeling like rebelling against Big Brother, huh? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I went through public education in three different countries. I am going through a university that is partially publically funded (as are most other schools in Canada). I have seriously considered MIT as an alternative to Waterloo when I was applying, and yes, according to their admissions department, I had a reasonable chance. Do you know why I chose Waterloo? Because MIT would have cost me upwards of $45,000 US a year. Unless one acquires some pretty hefty scholarships, this is prohibitive. It was for me. Now, you probably haven't heard of the University of Waterloo, but we are consistently in competition for MIT and the Ivy League in all of the major contests. The undergraduate programs in the faculty of mathematics at Waterloo are very respected the world over. It doesn't have the bombast of a name like Harvard or MIT, but it is not significantly inferior to them by any measure in the mathematical sciences, except maybe the look-and-feel of the campus. I pay $3,500 CAD a semester. Also, it is a fact that schools like Moscow State University (known to the Russians as MGU) and the Kolmogorov School of Mathematics competed with the best of the American schools during the Cold War. Your argument for privatization of the education system because "socialist" approaches do not work is unconvincing. The reason why American middle schools are below average has nothing to do with socialism. I will not venture to give any examples of schools for studies of other fields, since my focus has always been math and CS. On a different note, I grew up in communist Russia. I remember standing in line for 3 hours for bread and laundry detergent, something that would hopefully be alien to most people on this board. My mother was born in an barrack, not a hospital. I find your use of the word "socialist" disturbing. All too often people use "socialist" when they mean "communist". Government controlled education, or even high taxes, are NOT communism. Government controlled distribution of bread is getting there. Thus, socialism =/= evil. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

The people speaking the loudest are usually the ones least qualified. My .02 is that I jumped for a while on my rig with no Cypres because I felt confident I can handle jumping for a couple of weeks until I got the thing and pull. Well, the thing got held off in customs and I kept jumping. I started learning to sitfly without a Cypres or a Dytter, which I really regret now. I didn't think much of it then. I jump with it primarily to give my parents peace of mind. I trust myself to pull, otherwise I wouldn't skydive, but people with more experience told me it's a good idea, so I always use it. Finally, I wear it because I'd rather find out I screwed up while standing dazed in some field somewhere instead of from St Peter at the pearly gates. I'd jump without one if I had to, but not for long. Maybe after 500 or so jumps my comfort level will change, but that's it right now. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I think the first time I was aware of another student jumping my packjob was when my buddy was doing his first freefall. I was on his load and I told him on the way to the plane "Oh Felix, is that #8 you're jumping? I packed that!" To which he answered "Well, if it doesn't open I'm aiming for your car." I think I was more worried than him during his 5 second delay, but it opened fine. He then took out the windsock with that canopy, but that's a different story. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

(((HUG))) Now, a high 'B' is nothing to complain about I just came out of my own multivariate calc exam. The prof actually brought bottles of juice for his students, that was nice of him. BTW, I just realized that I completely forgot to send you an answer to that problem you PM'd me ages ago. Sorry about that -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

How about Baha'i? Anyone here? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Or worse, some old math or computers related joke, like "Programming, do not disturb, leave food near door" sticker. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Have you read the links I posted? Where are you getting this from? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

And if someone like the US simply decides to ignore everyone and go kick Iraq's ass, what is the UN supposed to do? Place economic embargoes on the US and demolish the world economy? Or maybe attack the US? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Kazaa still works. Getting busted still sucks -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Perhaps a forum for jump pilots? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Don't we have the fatalities database for that? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I didn't use to at first, but then a couple of people I knew appeared on that forum. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Completely misrepresented, as usual. You could have at least done them the courtesy of looking at their webpage before you go off and blast them. The same courtesy you expect people to give you, may I add. Read their goals. Declaration of intent: http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/md/03/wsispc3/td/030915/S03-WSISPC3-030915-TD-GEN-0006!R1!PDF-E.pdf Please note paragraph 4, in particular. The closest they come to what that person is describing is in section 5, where they go on about security and privacy. They also ask that no content detrimental to national security be allowed. Keep in mind that this is already the case, as has been seen with the PhD student who made a map of the fiberoptics of the US. I find it doubtful that you would find this a bad thing. The last point is about who deals with violations, which is moot. Things like paragraph 36 refer to what governments should do inside their own countries, which is already being done. Plan of action: http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/md/03/wsispc3/td/030915/S03-WSISPC3-030915-TD-GEN-0005!R1!PDF-E.pdf -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I used to have long hair that I always wore in a ponytail, a goatee, and a worn black leather jacket in highschool. I always quietly sat in the row second from the front and stared at the teacher. They usually left me alone -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Absolutely agreed. Unfortunately, some people want to be lied to. You mean you actually care? If being yourself didn't work, hey, it's the wrong person! -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I wonder how much practice that took. Awesome, I want to learn to do that! -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Lets say you want to get to know a girl. "Lets go on a date" is probably not the first thing you say, right? You want to talk a little first, laugh, maybe be serious for a bit, see who she is. But at the same time you want to introduce a certain overtone, right? Give her a couple of well-placed compliments, that kind of thing, to avoid the you're-a-great-friend syndrome. To this, some people react badly. And by badly I don't mean politely distancing, I mean "you were doing great until you said that" badly. Maybe I just suck? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I find that if you don't do that with some people, they get pissed off at you because you think they are a slut?! -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

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