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No, there will always be lowlifes that need free flatscreen televisions so bad, that they'll use any excuse to get them. Exactly. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Of course it is. And when these innocent black folks get stopped for no reason, searched for no reason, racially abused and roughed up a bit they get upset - as you would living in your little white bubble if blacks were to keep coming up to you and stopping you in the street. The next riots will come as a complete surprise to you won't they? It would be racism if the crime figures between whites and blacks were roughly equal compared to the population but they aren't. As for the rest of that post You assume to know much about me; your every personal comment about me makes you look foolish to those who do. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I have no problem with people of any colour being stopped by the Police and questioned so long as the Police are acting within the law and have good reason to stop the indeviduals. Respect is a two way street, regardless of colour if you back chat the Police then don't be suprised if they take more of an interest in you than if you lose the attitude. As for more black people being stopped than white people I refer you to the posts already given, if 10-12% of the population are responsible for: 67% of detected Gun crime 54% of street crimes, including muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property 32% of all sex crimes in London are down to black men.. and 45% of knife crime 58% of gun crime committed by females 52% of robberies committed by females in London are down to black women, then what percentage of the population in London is comprised of black people? Answer: Black or Black British: Black Caribbean 4.3% Black or Black British: Black African 5.5% Black or Black British: Other Black 0.8% Total 10.6% Source: ONS mid-2007 Ethnic Group Population Estimates http://tinyurl.com/3hb43ye When 10.6% (12% Tops) of the population are responsible for 67% of Gun crime, 54% of street crimes, including muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property and 32% of all sex crimes. Them being 6 time more likely to be stopped isn't racism its justifiably to be expected on the hard figures alone. More black supects leads to more black people being stopped. The black community needs to sort out the criminals in their midst or stop bleating about the amount of times they get stopped. Can't have it both ways. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Clearly not. As I have already stated As previously stated the Met does stop white people where the description of a criminal fits the subject. As with black people I have equally no problem with that either. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yes he was on the Nick Ferrari show on LBC, I was listening to it live. Did Kester David die illegally? I don't know I'm sure it will come out in the investigation if he did. Its not unusual for the loved ones of people who die in any kind of institution to look for someone to blame. I know Nurses who have had allegations of negligence resulting in the death patient in their care levelled at them by grieving relatives only to be totally exonerated on inquiry. Only time will tell on that one. As for his brothers request and demand the same kind of treatments as white people in Britain' generally I'd say thats what they get. If a person is robbed on the high street and the description is a white male 19-30 years old wearing a hoodie and a white male fitting that description is seen in the area the Police will stop them. If there wasn't so many black youths involved in street crime then they wouldn't be stopped and searched when a description of someone male black and wearing a hoodie with his jean crotch around his knees mugs someone around the corner. Unfortunately young black male wearing a hoodie and 'jail jeans' is the typical description of a mugger all to often. Unfortunately that description fits the majority of London's black male youth in which case there is little point in Police stopping white youths when they have a description like the one above. If you go to the whiter areas of London you'll find white youth getting stopped by the Bill as well. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

As the Met Commissioner said yesterday 'There is no place for racism in the Met Police' the Police have a difficult job but until the young black population of London (12%) stop committing the majority of street crime then I for one have no problem with them being stopped disproportionately. Once stopped the conduct of the police should be polite, professional and robust where required. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

No doubt the same would be said by some in the UK, I'm not a racist but I am a realist. Whats the point of stopping and searching old age pensioners for street crime when the victim states that they were robbed by a young black male? Chances are pretty high that the victim of the street crime is also black. That isn't racism thats simply the hard fact of the matter. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

So what is it you actually disagree with and why? Also if this is a race issue why was there so many white working and middle class rioters arrested? (The last post was edited to add the content from the word 'However' and this one was edited to add this post script. No content was removed from the initial draft). When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You are right it is a very worrying statistic. It also needs investigating further as generally speaking young black males go to the same schools as young white males who statistically do better at school. It seems to me that there is a cultural problem relating to eduction among the black population of the UK. However, unemployment and poor educational attainment aside, it seems to me that if the majority of street crime in London is disproportionately committed by young black men and women it seems rational that this group be stopped disproportionately. The black community in London needs to sort itself out, shop the criminals and clean up their community. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

That is a question of pure genius. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Afro-carabean people in London are stopped more often because they commit much higher crime rates than other ethnicities. Look at the figures... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4166073#4166073 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yes. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

No. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

So what? The Met was declared institutionally racist years ago, all this proves is that they're cleaning up their act. As for the riots that had bugger all to do with racism and everything to do with moronic greed and lack of civic duty. Only today a white millionaires daughter was found guilty of driving rioters about and handling stolen goods. What was the excuse for the 'student riots?' no Police racism required for the little shits to kick off there. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Thanks God, at last we might get some threads around here that don't turn into biparthied American spite fests. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You 'Yanks' have no clue as to how good you've got it mate. It already costs me $136.00 to fill up my cars tank and that figure will rise over the next few weeks. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Always good to ask question but to cite David Ray Griffin? In his own words 'I have no expertise in these matters'. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I enjoy shooting and am not a gunophobe to use a term that some around here bandy about but I have a question. If your girl is adverse to firearms in the first place I'm wondering if she has it in her to kill someone even if she gets over her aversion to firearms. Ask yourself what would have happened when she was robbed at gunpoint if she'd pulled out a pistol that she wasn't prepared to kill with? Put yourself in the robbers place, you're robbing this chick and just want her money, cards and jewellery when all of a sudden she draws down on you. Chance are you'd have a dead girlfriend by now. If she hasn't got it in her to be able to kill (or to handle the consequences of killing afterwards) then you're best option might be improving your home's security and working on your own weapon skills. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Well, who'd have thought? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Woof! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

See messages #21 and #28. Read before speaking. Oh, and #30 too. I did, it changes nothing. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You raised a hand, I see .... Do you feel adressed, as that's usually your typical posting style? No, seriously: Is Obama expecting to be re-elected? What kind of allowances would he make for Russia? If any? And so on. So, don't be shy, JR. Let's hear .........

Knew you'd get it in the end When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

The US government, with all its money and lawyers, couldn't find these Gitmo prisoners guilty of being terrorists (Even resorting to kangaroo courts). And yet some people still want to call them the "biggest terrorist threat to America". When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca