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'what kind of people would allow ten year old kids to fight a grown man's war?' 'More than 300,000 children under 18 are fighting in armed conflicts in more than thirty countries world-wide.' http://www.unicef.org/smallarms/exhibit/html/sa03/index.html[/font] I'd be suprised if more than a hundred were Palastinian. Maybe the question should be what type of grown man gos to war against children? 'More than 460 Palestinians were killed during 2001 by the Israeli security forces; most were unlawfully killed. Among the victims were 79 children and 32 individuals targeted for assassination. More than 2,000 Palestinians were arrested for security reasons. There were widespread reports of police brutality. Palestinian detainees frequently reported that they were tortured or ill-treated during interrogation. At the end of the year at least 40 people were under administrative detention. At least 33 conscientious objectors were imprisoned during 2001. Hundreds of Palestinians from the Occupied Territories were tried before military courts in trials whose procedures fell short of international standards. Collective punishments against Palestinians included closures of towns and villages, demolition of more than 350 Palestinian homes and prolonged curfews. Palestinian armed groups killed 187 Israelis, including 154 civilians.' http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/mde/israel+and+the+occupied+territories+!Open Self defense? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Political correctness can be crazy at times, but is it this time? The victims of 9/11 came from 83 countries not just the US, and wern't they killed because one group of people belived that they know God better than another group of people? Both beliving that the others are heretics. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Nothing but the need for God to come up with new and exciting forms of natural causes. My point isn't that it solves anything but simply that no one race or nation of people can be demonized, because America, Britan, France, Israel and most countries have caused their share of terror and perpertrated its own evil deeds. Does that make Americans evil..No, Does it make Brits evil..No. Are Christians evil because of the terrors of the inquistion or the secatarian killings in NI? Of course not, no more than Muslims, Arab or otherwise are evil because of the crimes commited on 9/11. Its a sensitive time of year but I just wish some people would keep a little perspective. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

''Unfortunatly there will always be people willing to kill in the name of God, not just Palastinians, Jews and Christians do their fair share as well.' That is my point. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

LMAO! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'Theres been more than one PIRA bomber blown himself to bits and thereafter described as a martyer.' 'Who?' Thomas Begley, the IRA bomber to name but one. As for Christians not killing themselfs for ideological/theological reasons, you are wrong. Heres fourteen, Bobby Sands Raymond McCreesh Mickey Devine Owen Carron Francis Hughes Patsy O'Hara Joe McDonnell Martin Hurson Kevin Lynch Kieran Doherty Thomas McElwee Terence MacSwiney Frank Stagg Michael Gaughan Q.E.D When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'Unfortunatly there will always be people willing to kill in the name of God, not just Palastinians, Jews and Christians do their fair share as well.' Actualy if you read again I didn't mention Jews and Christians killing themselves. But as you bring it up did you never hear about Masada? Mass suicide by Jews if I remember correctly and sanctioned by the Rabbis. As for Christians not killing themselfs Theres been more than one PIRA bomber blown himself to bits and thereafter described as a martyer. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

True. Unfortunatly Israel has become all it held abhorant. Also its sad but as far as I can tell the vast majority of both Palastinians and Israelis want to live in peace. But as always the extreamists on both sides continue the war at the expense of the people between. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

True, I can't even begin to imagine the despair needed to kill oneself. Unfortunatly there will always be people willing to kill in the name of God, not just Palastinians, Jews and Christians do their fair share as well. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

People with hope don't become suicide bombers. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

The 'Crap' as you call it is the web site for Gush Shalom, which is a Israeli (Yes a Jewish organisation) organisation that recognises the war crimes and racist acts commited in their name who don't accept the CNN version of what life is like for Palistinians because they see the truth for themselfs. MAybe if you spent a moment or two you may be a little better informed than if you just watched CNN andd FOX. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Welcome to 'the only civilized democratic nation in the middle east' http://www.gush-shalom.org/english/index.html When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Oh yea there was also a Timothy Dalton Bond film where they go out of the back of a C130 over Gibralter. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Jamsmin, hi from sunny Wimbledon! You didn't mention the Spy who loved me. The opening sequence ends up with Bond skiing off the edge of a cliff and opening a Union flag on his parachute. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'respect to those who've made this sport what it is today. Because without them, there would be no skydiving.' I agree compleately, but I don't think that one needs to be jumping for ten years to be able to call oneself a Skydiver. I love skydiving and I'm sure that I'll continue over the years until when....who knows. But all those great people that you jumped with over the years were they not skydivers? The fact they don't jump now doesn't mean that at the time they wern't a Skydiver. I used to be a soldier and now I do something else, it doesn't mean that I was never a soldier. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Strewth!!! Did anyone else see the UFO over the coastline?? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Far as I know everyones welcome here, and we all started somewhere. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Why not? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Cool Britania! Very Nice. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Sir, you over charge us. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Hi Quade, It may seem that I'm anti US but that really isn't the case I assure you. I am however concerned about the way that the US is conducting its foriegn policy. There is a feeling over here in the UK in some quarters that the US has been extreamly hypocritical when it comes to terrorism. No sane person can condone the terrable crimes that occured on 9/11 and the world understands the pain that the US feels and the feelings of vengence that stem from those attacks. However, for the last 30 years+ americans have donated approximatly £18M a year via NORAID and other organisations to the PIRA and other terrorist groups in Ireland. Having seen close up the effects of the bombs in my homeland it also engenders some anger. Our terrorists were lorded as heros in the US. The so called war on terror only seems to matter since america has been attacked, yet here in Britan we've been in a war against terror for the last 100 years. Now America 'the land of the free' can legaly assasinate people, can legaly hold people without trial for as long as they like, keep legal consul from people that it holds in cages. I have met alot of Americans and consider some of them to be amoung my closest friends, I am not anti american. By america taking the line of my enemys enemys are my friends it has jumped into bed with the devil on more than one occasion. The civil liberties that once made your country so great are no more, they have been erroded and are being disposed with and america waves the flag and cheers there parting, why? 'Because your either with us or against us'. At a time when America claims to be the land of the free upholding democratic values it seems to be throwing its own away and embracing the values of those it abhores. Imprisonment without trail, state sanctioned murder, delibrate targeting of civillians at work. (Remember the TV station in Serbia 18 dead journalists.) I belive that that is just as much a terrorist action as 9/11. Americas continuing support of Israel also makes a mockery of Bushs war on terror. Even the Chief Rabi of the UK said this week its not possible to condone Israel and leading Jewish intellectuals such as Professor Jacqualine Rose now speak out against the crimes of Israel. I also condem the suicide bombings by the Palistinians. Yet American foriegn policy still supports a government that is in effect now a terrorist state to the tune of approx $90 Billion a year. It makes a mockery of Bushs War on Terror. To many Americans think that the rest of the world is jelous of them but in the developed world this simply isn't the case. American Skydivers seem to be better maybe because they're more likely to travel out of the country and mix with foreigner more and so have a generaly better balanced view. Its a pity that so few Americans travel outside of America. Isolationism only leads to suspicion. I've been to the states three times since 9/11 (and found alot of good people there.) I've travelled through the middle east, I've had Afghan sand on my boots and I'm a former British soldier. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yep! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Congrats, Good luck in your new job. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Joking aside, theres been times when I've been glad to be able to give thanks to someone other than myself. But also why would you want to break a perfectly good relationship just because you're becoming attached? However freefall is just about the ultimate thing when trying to be unattached When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'"enlightenment" or "nirvana" or whatever you want to call it, is only brought about through working on your own mind and bettering yourself as a person for everything and everyone else around you, and not through praying to something. ' I'm self obsessed, I don't know, does that count.......anyway enough about me, what do you think about me????????????? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca