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Funny you should say that, when it comes to abuse of children , yes of course I am going to be sickened ... since there were pictures, it is to me enough to make my stomach turn... Even after hearing its a magic type show. It still pains me to see the child exploited. If the initial evidence shows abuse I side with what I can see. Id rather be proven wrong then to not take a case of child abuse serious and in the end something devastating were to happen to the child. Are you saying that if you had seen that picture with no knowledge of its validity, you would automatically remain emotionless until you know its source and the story behind it? If that is your stand that is fine, however that is not mine. My emotions and my protective nature will always prevail over the need to be un-biased until proof one way or the other when it comes to kids and their well-being. The fact that you find it funny that I allowed myself to show emotion to a child who is (being exploited is abuse in my personal opinion, granted not nearly as bad as being run over by a truck) being abused makes me kind of sad for where some of our society stands on some issues. As you can see from my first post in this thread my initial question is 'is this real or a fake/trick?' I want to know the source, I want verification before I waste emotions on what turns out to be a trick. I can't help it I guess I 'm just a think first kind of person, its a pity that more people aren't, maybe we wouldn't be in the mess we're in Iraq now if more people thought first insead of blindly believing and getting all emotional before they have a clear understanding of a situation. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You'll be next John, they will make you give up your weapons sooner rather than later, its just a matter of time dude. The UN will make it happen, then you'll have to take up archery When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Just make sure you remember to brush the sand off your knees before entering the clubhouse then. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Hey if it makes them happy who are you to stop them? (Just using your logic here) When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

What issue? Do you have an issue? Whats your issue? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I've been all over, was in Australia (Brisbane) for a couple of weeks, was in California (Brisbane) for a couple of weeks, Netherlands for a week and Ireland for a week...Been busy but some fun as well as work. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

John, thats nothing dude. I once saw this guy put his girlfriend in a box like her feet were sticking out the bottom man. Her head was out the top. Then this sick son of a bitch got a saw and sawed her in half... Man, did she scream! Then he stuck her back together John, NO SHIT, I saw it with my own eyes! Yea, sure she was back together again but those screams... John, I still hear those screams man, don't tell me she wasn't hurt. Those screams........The HORROR......The HORROR.... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Bwahhaaaa.... Love your sig line dude When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

My dads tougher than your dad! Bet he could beat him in a fight easy. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

There are suports in the blanket and his arm goes between them, doubt it really hurts at all. All to willing to belive the worst though weren't you. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Interesting, what was the source of this story and these pictures? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I'm against people prtesting at funerals, especialy the funerals of service personel. I think its abhorant and evil. HOWEVER... It concerns me that the use of this law could be misused. We already have censorship of coffins and bodybags coming back from Iraq, could this law be used to ban the photos and filming for news purposes of the dead soldiers returning if it was deemed that the media was protesting against the war by showing these images? I don't know. Its just a concern, any lawers know? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Not sure if its the same in US law but under English law rape does not have to be done using a penis. The act of penitration is what defines the rape not the use of a penis. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Using that logic we should have just killed all the locals in Northern Ireland everytime a IED went off. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Its already lost. Now its just a matter of how many more die before we leave them to it. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

LOL... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yes, thats true, but look at who was behind the Taliban, Saudi Wahibists. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

As the pictures show the vast majority of Islamic countries do not require women to do so. No where in the Koran will you find that, its a cultral thing not a religious thing. It's a Saudi thing. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yea, I guess all us ragheads look alike to you When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

This was not truthful, not respectful, but was definitely arrogant. You go on and on about how ignorant we all are of your culture , but as someone said earlier, it also blows my mind that you are soooo oblivious to your deep-seated prejudice that ultimately the only way for women to behave is when they are "modestly" dressed - whatever that means, I'm guessing it doesn't allow for too much freedom. You don't want to give a woman that, for God's sake!! For the record since you are quite ignorant of our culture, somehow despite being exposed to it for many years as you say( - I doubt this, by the way. I say you, for the most part, stay cloistered in your own community and sit back and judge everyone else as lesser people. Especially us whorish, evil western women), we most definitely do not all want to look like Brittany Spears and, how did you put it??- have a gang-bang party??!!!. We all don't see her as a role model of any kind. I definitely agree that there is a lot of misinformation about the difference in our cultures. But there is lot we know that isn't just "made-up" - like a woman in danger of being killed because she was raped (oddly enough called and "honor killing"), by her ownfamily, no less. I guess she was raped because she dressed provacatively, like Brittany Spears I'm sure (LOL), and for that deserves to die... I work in an Asian-Indian doctors office. There are many Indians, of different sects, and there are many Muslims who come in. Some of the meanest, nastiest people who come in are are the "most devout", which again, is an ironic fact of all "fundamentalists" of every stripe - Muslim, Hindu, and, yes, even Christian. It seems they really work from a position of anger (about what I don't know, but it's there) and of arrogance. I think it has something to do w/fear - fear of God, fear of punishment by God, fear of their fellow men.... I see them and I talk with them, I work along side them. I am exposed to these cultures 8 hours, or longer, a day. I don't agree personally w/the arranged marriages, the way many of the women clearly are expected to be subsurvient to their husbands - the husbands speak for them, interrupt them when they speak, order them to sit, stand, get on the scale(to be weighed) - they don't normally yell in public, but there definitely is the tension they they are to do what they are told which is uncomfortable. But it is their life, and I respect that and don't make fun of them. There isn't a lot to make fun of. So many of them are soooo depressed - I see it. Now there are definitely some who seem happy, content w/their lives - it's about 50/50. The ones who are happiest by far are those who are allowed to enjoy some of the "western" culture, but even among those there is still a bottom line threat, a real[bthreat, that if one of the young college-age girls were to marry out of their faith they would be killed. Why? Because any one who is not of their faith and culture is a lesser person. The doctors I work for left India because the husband is Muslim, his wife is Hindu - they wanted to come to the USA because they knew they had a chance at a life together here. They loved each other and wanted to create a life together. They knew they would be killedif they stayed in India because he was a muslim and she was hindu. They chose to come to the USA because of the freedoms we have here - it isn't perfect. Many people experience prejudice and bad treatment daily. But at least we have, for the most part, the option to pursue the life we want w/out fear of death. This is most dear to us women I think. We don't have to be controlled by the men in our lives and around us. We have the freedom the because we the [have the/b]right as human beings to choose our own path - and that clearly bugs some people. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I'm going to start making black boxes!

And you guy think you've got problems.... Tony (am I President yet?) Blair is making every car, van a lorry in the UK carry a black box that will be tracked at all times by GPS so that the government can bill us for the milage wwe do and depending on the roads we use. And no one seems to be bothered! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I knew it! I knew it! You really are a duck!!! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Damn too bad you don't want to be free ROFLMAO... I am free, i can walk down the road and not feel so paranoid that I think that if i don't carry a gun i won't be able to protect myself from some other paranoid with a gun and a belly full of fear. I truly feel sorry for you. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Sooner or later America will have to realise that its just one country (not even the biggest, and its power in the world is waneing by the day) and eventually you will have to bow down to the will of the world embodied in the UN. Its just a matter of time and you know it. you sound a little paranoid, and a nation full of paranoid people with guns is just asking for trouble. I've got nothing against people owning firearms if they are responsible enough to do so, (just look at Switzerland) but clearly the paranoia problem sweeping the US is an issue, time to hand over your guns. I agree, then you won't have any fear and you can hand over your guns as you won't need to worry so much. Err....Yea, the UN don't run Canada, they do a very good job of it themselves, however i'm begining to feel that Un intervention in the US isn't asuch a far fetched idea, we could restore democracy and take away the guns and Americans would be much happier and less paranoid finger? I guess its only a little gun, you may as well just get rid of it, chances are you'd end up loosing it and having it used against you, you'd be better off just keeping quiet and then claiming on the insurance after they've gone. it was a big buch of black men with guns, you go sort it out! They're called prison wardens When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca