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He doesn't. He just instructs as an acceptable, accurate and humble servant. We only have Paul's word for that. Why wouldn't you believe that? A murderer and hater of Christians before having a 'moment' on a the road to Damascus which no one else saw. He fell out with the real disciples of Jesus (The ones that actually knew Jesus) then went off and changed the laws of Moses removing the parts about not eating pig and having to have your foreskin lopped off as it would be an almost impossible sell to the Romans and Greeks. Why wouldn''t you believe him? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Well thats you in the shit then. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

So show me. If you can't show me in the New Testament then I can only take it that you are refering to the Old Testament in which it says that Adulters and homosexuals should be stoned to death. So show me or reveal your hypocracy. I apologize, I took advantage of you because I know you lack education and understanding of the Scriptures. It does not exist in the new covenant. The new covenant instructs us to follow the law of the land regarding the death penalty. Read Romans 13. Nothing wrong with my education of the scriptures, I simply don't subscribe to your twisted pick and mix interpretation of them. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You show me. After all it was YOU who said... So show me. If you can't show me in the New Testament then I can only take it that you are refering to the Old Testament in which it says that Adulters and homosexuals should be stoned to death. So show me or reveal your hypocracy. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

But that is what it says in the scriptures. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Jesus camp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVdEMCTGJS4 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I wasn't being Kristo-phobic was I? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

So we should stone homosexuals and adulters to death. Interesting, ever thought of moving to Iran? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Christian Jihadist When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You sound like a Jihadist. Your post sounds like that of a religious exremist full of hate. Like one of those murdering suicide bombers in Pakistan or Iraq who walk into a Shiite mosque and detonate themselves to rid the world of those fellow muslims they see as heratics and apostates. I live in a Catholic country and while there have been members of the system who have committed crimes against the community and the church there are also pleanty of good honest Catholics who live a wholesome Christian life. Doesn't Christ teach us to hate the crime not the criminal? Who are you to judge millions of Catholics? All around me in my comunity in Ireland I see Catholic Christians raising money for flood victims, the homeless, orphans, suffering animals etc they give also their time and compassion. They are driven in many cases by their faith. Do I believe that the Catholic church has got it right? No. But neither has any other Church or religion, and none ever will because they are made of humans and we are all fallible. Religious hatred is ugly in any form, yours included. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

No. Although it's by a 1929 international treaty (recognizing Vatican City as a sovereign state), it's a modern-day joke that the Pope is accorded head of state status. He's essentially the mayor of a small town of about 110 acres, with about 800 residents, about 500 of whom are classified as citizens. Put another way, he's like the dean of a small college-sized church campus. please. The Pope is the most significant religious leader on the planet, represents the largest of the Christian sects, with over a billion members. To ignore its history in Europe over the past 2000 years is also silly. Economically, it's probably foolish to complain about this expense, as it should generate a considerable amount of tourist activity. The pope certainly is worth more than a visit from the American President, for example. I agree with your points. Although the vatican is small in size (I'll find out exactly how small when I visit it next friday) the Catholic 'nation' is larger than the population of the USA. The UK will most definaty make its money on the visit. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

+1 + billions of dollars Their useless indugences should be able to pay for it all...It sickens me that every year my family gives these crooks money for a mass that's supposed to get my dead grandmother closer to heaven... I mean c'mon...our belifs are hard enough to swallow without the Catholic World Theocracy adding their mumbo Jumbo to it all... Thank God Catholocism is a religion based on ignorance of their own beliefs...it means real Catholoics can still be true brothers! I've met a few Roman Catholics that were actually Christians. That is they read the Holy Bible all by themselves and pray in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. They attend RC Mass out of tradition, good folks. I've never met a Catholic who didn't consider themselves to be a Christian. You post sounds very judgemental, who are you to say if somone is a Christian or not? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Actually to be fair when you put like that you make a compelling argument. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Watch out You Tube here we come! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Shut up and git the rope, we're gona have ourselves a lynchin'. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

+1 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Actually Lucky, in the cases mentioned above (and similar type cases) its not about revenge just simply freeing up prison space as these people will never be released and if used sparingly I'm pretty sure it would be cheaper than keeping them alive for the next however many decades. However, its easy to say when I'm not actually voting on the DP in real life. In that case I think I would have to think a lot longer and harder. I think I'd be less inclined to support the DP if life really did mean life (not 9 years) When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Ah. You must be referring to the War of Southern Seditious Insurrection. Try the War of Northern Agression. The South did not try to inflict it's will on the North, and it certainly did not try to overthrow the Federal Government. The South freely joined the Union, and freely left. The North then invaded. The sanctimonious tripe which the North puts forth as "history" is revisionist nonsense. Argumentum ad Baculum is the basest of fallacies. BSBD, Winsor Question: Was it really over slavery? I doubt it. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Number of points. 1) The death penalty is surely only ever give when the evidence is overwhelming, if it wasn't then the person wouldn't be able to have been found guilty. Yet mistakes have happened on numerous occasions. 2) What is the intended purpose of the DP? If its to prevent reoffending its pretty effective (so long as its the right person) if its to deter others it doesn't work. If its for retribution, well then it works only in the short term, chances are that it wouldn't give the satisfied feeling in the long term. 3) You don't give us enough informatio about your friend and the circumstances surrounding their death. If they were a gang banger who got killed over drugs then that a very different situation than if they were a clean living youngster who was shot in a drive by. Personally I think there is certain circumstance where it is appropriate (The moors murderers, The Yorkshire Ripper, the Soham murderer and his ilk, the Washington Snipers, yes both of them) but I can't pick one of your options as there is too little information. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

After being boo'd at the reading festival a week ago last night they were boo'd and bottled off starge after being a bunch of primadona has beens. If you can't get a Irish crowd in the O2 to love you, retire. Video link to the event (Boo'd off after four songs) http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/sep/03/guns-roses-bottled-offstage-dublin When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Just as well they're not then isn't it. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Quote] Chop his head off with a sword dipped in pigs blood. Then throw his body into a grave and cover it with pigs blood. Televise it all. Make sure that Al Jazzera gets a copy. Once they see they won't get into Paradise. They will stop messing with us. I believe it was Black Jack Pershing that did that once. Lined up a bunch of Muslim Terrorists and shot them with bullets dipped in pigs blood, then poured it on em in there mass grave. He left one guy alive to tell the tale and let him go. There wasn't another attack on westerners for something like 50 years after he did that. They aren't afraid to die if they think they are getting into heaven. Why not show em that if they get caught they aren't going to get to heaven? [/Quote] You didn’t even think about the using a pig in relation to a Mosque, yet you seem to have an infantile preoccupation in using pigs to offend Muslims. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1300494#1300494 [Quote] it is about religion and if you really think about it. HUMAN RIGHTS. Islam likes to strip that, from even believers. Just ask a female Muslim. Oh wait... you cant. They will stone her to death. [/Quote] Again you demonstrate an ignorant prejudice against Muslims. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3934163#3934163 [Quote] Is it not obvious that the Muslim World considers the West the enemy? Is it not obvious that this religion really doesn't tolerate much at all (even if it is supposed to). If they had more money and a bigger Army, they would be bombing us right now. [/Quote] Maybe education is the problem here. This paranoia that somehow 1.6 Billion Muslims are intolerant of the West demonstrates a wilful desire to follow ones prejudices in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. You also seem to be unaware that ‘the Muslims’ don’t actually have an army so you need not worry about it getting ‘bigger’. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3922603#3922603 [Quote] The negative I see comes from the leaders of Muslim States. It comes from the likes of Bin Laden and the Taliban. It comes from the way that countries like Pakistan cant even be straight with us when they say they are our allies and allow murders to run free within their borders. It comes from when Muslim countries allow terrorist groups to train and plan attacks with no regard for the lives of my family and friends and my beliefs. [/Quote] You should be aware that neither Bin Laden or the Taliban are leaders of any Muslim State as you put it. Your knowledge of world affairs is again shown to be so limited as to be non existent as Pakistan is in a state of virtual civil war in many areas due to their governments on going war against Islamist terrorists. (You may want to learn the difference between Islamist and Islamic). [Quote] I believe that the vast majority of the Muslim world does see us as the enemy and will stop at nothing to see this country destroyed. [/Quote] http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3922628#3922628 You express a paranoia that 1.6 Billion people in this world are somehow plotting the downfall of the USA... If that were so believe me it would have happened by now. [Quote] 'I guess I do have an anti Muslim stance' [/Quote] Sorry to say it but by your own admission you are a bigot. You are clearly in need of a good education and wider world view, open your mind, intolerance and hatred will just eat you up. Try travelling outside of the USA, Moroco is nice at this time of year. I'm going to stop now, because quite frankly this is like shooting fish in a barrel. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3922590#3922590 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

You probably wont find any since the IRA is not trying to blow up America landmark by landmark. But I will chip in and say how bad they are for killing innocent women and children on their way to work and school with random bombing. We should arrest anyone that is found guilty of funding any terrorist organization AND shut down any business front that is providing support to them. Blowing up America maybe not, but they trained FARC to continue a drugs war which is wrecking havoc on the streets of America. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Can you please be tolerant. Gay cowboys have rights as well. You should really not use that kind of language. Not very PC of you. They have the right to make aweful music, I have the right not to listen to or like it. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

It is a Mosque. They called it that from the beginning. Then they changed it to a community center after people got upset. If you paint a pig blue, it is still a pig. Does it matter how long they operated in the US? Bottom line, they were DIRECTLY funding Hamas. Why would you try to sugar coat that? It has been proven and they have been sent to jail and the Terrorist Organization was shut down. I never said he was guilty of anything. In fact. If you read my post. I said "if" he knew what this organization was about then he is in big trouble. My opinion is that he and the El Gamal guy are shady and this whole thing stinks. I will keep saying it. You can keep denying it right up until they take one or both of them off in handcuffs and seize the building. It was made totally clear what the Park 51 site was to be used for, its detailed in the original planing documents. I'll wait and see what the legal process decided. Your choice of a pig to illustrate your point is obvioulsy supposed to be provoacative and insulting within your limited understanding of cultural sensibilities, however it illustrates clearly your biggoted hatred and intolerance against anything or anyone Muslim. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca