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If these files are so confidential, and 100% non-eligible under FOIA...then why did they open them up for Geoff Gray? He's not a LEO. He was a guy writing a book, yet he was allowed access. The ice has been broken. You can make the request for free. They can only say no. It's still different from opening them up to the public. I don't think they will release anything, but go ahead a try, can't hurt..... Yes. My suggestion for public release was probably too much to expect. But I think Citizen Sleuths might have a shot at seeing them, if the request was written up properly. I think the only way would be a Political backing to put pressure on them. I doubt they would listen anyone else. that or, do like they did with the Alcatraz escape and hand it over to the US Marshal..... McCoy's point of view was that you will get NO cooperation from either Washington State or Minnesota FBI offices due to their agent involvement in Norjak. His suggestion was, if you want any cooperation, go to the Utah office and work it through there with his family, or the CIA office. The FBI and FAA have living asses to cover. Nuttall has the smartest opinion. If you want any answers the best approach will be to go through a State Attorney General's office from one of the states 305 flew over. Giving it to the "Cover-up Crew" as Blevins suggests is dumber than a frickin' rock. But that is typical Blevins, right, MeyerLouie? ____________________________________________ You ain't gonna get no arguments from me.

Both Boyce and Lee should have been executed. Well, that's an opinion. You're getting into death penalty stuff now, and I have a few problems with it. On this issue, we will have to agree to disagree. Blevins, Do you understand that what Boyce and Lee did for money and drugs was extremely damaging to the security of the USA and the entire western world? No telling how many died as a direct result of their activities. Then there is the infamous Walker family spy ring that sold information on Naval code equipment. One estimate of the damage to USA security of their activities is that if the USA and USSR had gotten involved in a shooting war in that time frame, the USA would have lost as a direct result of the Walker family. Treason is not small potatoes. So far as I am concerned, you could also line the entire Walker family up against a wall and shoot them. And if they had a dog, shoot it also. Robert99 Blevins can afford the luxury of non-involved bloviation. He has no stake in anything except for himself. Blevins could be turned on a dime and come out the other end screaming 'his rights' on some internet forum, like this one! No mystery there! Somebody always has to clean up their messes at the beach of Holiday Liberty - Shapeshifting and skinwalking to suit compelling personal needs is the issue. ____________________________________________ blo·vi·ate (blv-t) intr.v. blo·vi·at·ed, blo·vi·at·ing, blo·vi·ates Slang To discourse at length in a pompous or boastful manner: "the rural Babbitt who bloviates about 'progress' and 'growth'" (George Rebeck).

Blevins wrote: There will be one KEY piece of information on the case that the FBI has never made public, and on that, they should continue to withhold that information as a control. This is because they would need something in their back pocket to either confirm a suspect for sure, or to eliminate him...should a viable suspect be discovered. .... One of the Big Questions is WHO should receive these files for examination. I suggest that no matter who actually makes and pays for this request...that the files should go to the Citizen Sleuths. _______________________________________________ Why just one key piece of evidence, Blevins? What make one the magic number? I'm betting at least one key piece of evidence has been held back. ....... And why should CS get the information? Why not Georger or Robert99, or MrShutter45, or whoever? What is so special about CS getting first dibs? Just making stuff up again...?? MeyerLouie

Marc Cohn wrote this lyric from Walking in Memphis. "Tell me are you a Christian child?" And I said "Ma'am I am tonight" 377 _______________________________________________ Those Christian girls, I did know a couple back in the day. If you didn't go to church with her, well then those Friday nights watching movies on the couch weren't gonna be all that exciting, if you know what I mean. I tell you, 377, it ain't easy being a recovering Catholic -- all that guilt! MeyerLouie

Bruce Smith wrote: 7. Himms never talked to Tina when she lived in Portland, and I find that incredulous, in particular since the money was found at "Tina" Bar and she split for the convent shortly afterwards. ..... 9. On a personal level, I strongly object to Ralph's insistence on being paid for an interview on Norjak. The taxpayers already paid for the information he has, and I think he is duty bound to share it with the public. Yes, interviews with pesky journalists are a chore, which is why I offered to buy lunch for him and his wife as a way to lessen the sting of talking to me. _______________________________________________ Had to come back to your 'top 10' list again, Bruce. I've been thinking on it.... I agree with on #9, it does seem a bit tacky to be charging for his knowledge of the case. But in my brief conversation with Mr. H a long time ago, I got the impression he was pretty tired of all those people with all those crazy questions and, at times, unpleasant, disrespectful behavior. It might have been his way to weed out the crazy, obnoxious, unpleasant people he was forced to deal with over the years. On your #7, yeah, was it coincidence or not? Tina lived n east Portland, Mr. H is from Portland, and the money is found at Tena Bar, west of Portland. Truth is stranger than fiction, you can't make this stuff up! Also, I think it's "Tena" Bar, and "Tina" Mucklow. Another nebulously nefarious twist in the Cooper Vortex. MeyerLouie

_______________________________________________ Blevins, can you be just little more melodramatic? You went from Jesus to holy crap (very sacriligious I might add) to Tina to Jimmy Stewart. If Tina was so traumatized, as you say, then why did she jokingly ask for a bundle of the money, then when Cooper offered it, she mischievously declined? She actually complimented Cooper on his good behavior. She doesn't look terribly traumatized in that picture of her afterwards. Just making stuff up again in your quest to be Drama Queen, Blevie? She was forced to be the only one to deal with the hijacker? What about the other crew members who were on board during the ordeal? What were they, chopped liver? You're not making outlandish, ridiculous, off-the-top-of- your-head kind of comments again, are you, Blevie, Drama Queen, Troll, Sheeple -- whatever you are? It's 2:45 am, Blevie. Screw you. MeyerLouie

BruceSmith wrote: 6, Himmelbach's contention that Cooper was a rotten, sleazy crook is not supported by the information provided by the FA's, nor does Himms specifically state why he makes the characterization. __________________________________________________ Oh, I don' know Bruce, Cooper only extorted $200K and threatened to blow up an aircraft with over 30 people on board. We don't need Mr. H to confirm those facts ... if that doesn't qualify for "rotten, sleazy crook," then what does? MeyerLouie

Remember some posts back when I was examining the maps a few wks ago. I kept saying "Give me one Fricking minute". Just one minute North and it changes the landing zone. It puts Cooper right where he needed to be - at least for me and what I think from the 1979 trip and the 2010 trip. ONE fricking minute and then everything correlates with everything else - meaning the places he took me and what I now believe to have been the escape route used by Cooper. (I base this on things Duane showed me and told me - and my memory of the places he took me and the things he showed me - but did NOT mention Cooper in those areas). Cooper was mention only ONE time on that trip and I thought it was a joke. Considering the area at that time we were in - I think it may have been! My mind wants to go back but my body screams NO. When I was out there in 2010 - the areas looked so different, but I was able to associate time and space and that was a plus. Now there are areas I need to go back to but, that is physically impossible for me at this time. I may NEVER get to go back. Now I have to put things in the hands of anyone who can or cares to help. I can talk better than I can walk or sit at this computer. There are those who have my contact information so if I need to verbalize some of what I remember - please do NOT hesitate to call. Right now for some reason I am crying and I should be elated. A lot of mixed feelings and the pain medication I think intensifies emotions. Here is wishing AirTwardo a safe jump! keep in mind that I am still in the testing stages, this does not confirm anything at this moment. these are issue's that have came up in the testing process. nothing should be taken as proof one way or another at this point. I had similar problems in the first part of the path, these were adjusted and didn't affect the path. at this point I could be doing something wrong in this leg of the path, so we must halt any conclusions at this point. I wouldn't be sure of wanting this time frame, it would put him in the lake if he bailed at 20:11. ______________________________________________ Which lake is that again? Isn't it a bit ironic, there was that missing minute from long ago, now a missing minute reappears in your simulation -- not related of course. Nonetheless, the Cooper Vortex rears its eery head again. MeyerLouie

I wouldn't worry. There's probably nothing left to tell. Hayden says the FBI never consulted him later about anything regarding the hijacking. His only dealings with them was when he wrote that letter to get the remaining chute back. On Hayden's version of events: I think he's telling the truth. Second, I think he's told all he knows anyway. He never jumped with either chute, never saw the canopies. In fact, he said he's never jumped at all. The chutes he bought were 'just in case'. He said he was aware of Cossey's claim on ownership, but didn't make a big deal of it. The reasons he gave for this attitude were: 1) He KNEW the chutes were his because the FBI returned the remaining one to him, and not Cossey. 2) He figured Cossey was the go-to guy for the FBI regarding the chutes (since Cossey was the only one who actually saw the canopies), and that was fine with him. Add-on: Hayden said that NWA paid off the rental fee pretty quickly after the hijacking, and he was happy with that. But he wasn't expecting the FBI to appropriate the chute later and not return it. He said it was a rental, and that agreement was plain from the start. This is why he finally applied to get it back from the FBI. *Attached*: I took the FBI file on Hayden and the chutes and made it into a more readable document. I'm not sure why I said 'condensed PDF' in my original post about it back there. I copied it over word for word from the raggedy-looking FBI paper file from their PDF's. It's just easier to read now. _______________________________________________ Hey Blevins, Don't have a heart attack, but I have to pay you a compliment. This is really a good post -- it has substance, it's informative, it's based on your hard work and research. So, you really can do it. Keep doing it. MeyerLouie

_______________________________________________ Blevins wrote:: ...... You got a LOT of nerve putting my name into the same sentence as Bob Knoss'. ..... _______________________________________________ I don't have a problem doing that. MeyerLouie BK makes up fantasy. I do NOT. Actually you do, Blevins....you just do it in your own special way. MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ ......I've finished one book since then that is being edited (non-Cooper), another is ready for editing, (non-Cooper crime novel) and I'm working on a third. The last one is Cooper-related but doesn't try to solve the case. Cooper to me is more of a hobby. _______________________________________________ So, it sounds like you are just too darn busy to be here. Maybe it's time to take up a new hobby, Blevie. With all that money you and AB are making off this forum, sounds like you're going to be able to retire soon. By the way, where's that damn spreadsheet? Just want to make sure you guys aren't cookin' the books. We all know the only reason you're here -- to peddle your wares. And that's why you should be permanently banned from this forum. How do you do it, Blevins? You are juggling 3 edits, writing Cooperland, going out with models, consulting psychics, getting lost in the woods, doing DZ as a hobby, dumping the Subie, going to Ariel DB Cooper Days, and fantasizing about 3-breasted women with a bunch of horses? You're even more amazing than Martha Stewart -- without the jail time, of course (you've never been to jail, right?). You're one amazing guy, Blevie -- and you've even squeezed in Auburn Days. So there's lots of other hobbies in the world besides the Cooper thread. I'm into oil painting and music. Maybe try those -- oh yeah, you play guitar by the campfire and sing "Cum Ba Yah" -- I forgot -- that's what you do when you've got all that time to kill when you're lost in the woods for a whole month. Why not take up body-building? From what I saw, you could use a little more muscle mass. In short, Blevie, there's lots of other hobbies out there to do. I know ..... the Cooper case is just spit on the windshield for ya. So much to do, so little time to do it... MeyerLouie

BruceSmith wrote: I'm glad that Norman is talking to somebody. He won't talk with me. ________________________________________________ You get that a lot, Bruce. Why is that? MeyerLouie

You'll NEVER get it. Your constant RMB bickering is driving people to us like crazy. LOL I should put you on the payroll. _______________________________________________ You're threatening us here with your spreadsheet that proves you are making bucks at AB because of the bickering here against you. That's is such a pathetic, desperate attempt to gain some semblance of credibility here. Too late, troll. MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: Or in the words of Spiro T. Agnew: _________________________________________________ I'll take that any day over "stammering trollers of stupidity."

That is a load of BS, and you know it. I have stated on numerous occasions I thought you were an educated guy. I have never called anyone here stupid, not even when they tossed insults my way. I don't like using that word on people. To me, it's almost a curse word. I understand that some folks might not agree with that post I made today relating bashing, and constantly using ME as the subject of the thread, to increased sales at AB. But it is 100% the truth. Another truth is that you and Meyer spend most of your time talking about RMB, rather than DB Cooper. Don't you realize all you really accomplish is to drive internet traffic my way? You've accused me of being here to 'promote a book'. Hell, I don't need to do that with you and Meyer around. _______________________________________________ First of all, the statement above made by Georger is absolutely true. You prove with every post you make, this one being no exception. Another thing, you should be permanently banned from the forum for publicly stating that this forum is making you money. That goes against everything that this forum is about. If AB sales are going up, you shouldn't be saying it's because of you being here. This is such a violation of protocol, and you should be banned permanently. I've said all along that the primary reason you are here is to peddle your wares. That's it. You lack the intelligence to do much of anything else. You prove that every day. I hope Quade looks at what you have done here. It's a new low, Blevins. MeyerLouie Well Meyer, I wouldnt get too upped about it! We all know Blevins is only baiting ... has nothing to do with this thread. Maybe Blevins has oil wells with Airtwardo? JT has gold! Jo has her Duane property! I could go on and on and on but everyone here has assets of some kind - if Blevins advertises his "accumulating wealth" visi-a-vis me or you or whatever in this thread ... then I have some bottom land that floods every year I can sell you cheap, plus some sick cats someone threw out of a passing car last week. As Farflung might surmise: everyone here has a manure spreader.. The current excuse for personal angst seems to be: "smartass college boys". Blevins just talks to himself a lot then writes it out here. Jo likewise. What you could actually do is help with the g-force data implicit in the Cooper bailout! Because Airtwardo is hopeless and never going to provide it even if he has it. He seems to be waiting on others (me?) to provide it, as proof of something? Maybe we should help him out, and the thread likewise? Then we can move to other fascinating matters totally beyond Blevins' imagination. Shutter would applaud that. What do you think? (you can read the rest between the lines. My experience is people get really upset and go totally nuts around here when you start throwing numbers at them! It's like throwing ddt on lice! We could torture them with stats!) _______________________________________________ And I've noticed Blevins shuts up when things get technical and statistics get thrown around. Maybe we could take that video of the counteracting forces that are occurring when one jumps out of an airplane. We could talk about them as two primary vectors -- acceleration due to gravity and air resistance, and the air resistance vector (cunteracting gravity) that occurs when the parachute finally opens. Instead of those little up and down arrows on the video, we could assign numbers to those arrows, which are nothing more than vectors (gravity and air resistance) working against each other. Let's start with acceleration due to gravity. Maybe we could explain, with a little caclulus, the difference between velocity and acceleration. You think Blevins will understand why the skydiver quit accelerating? Hey, I'm game..... MeyerLouie

Ditto dumstuntzz. This has been "our" problem all along. We never know what is fact and what is myth or mis-interpretation by the media. Maybe, being "on top of it" this time, we can ultimately get the truth out of the noise. Sluggo_Monster That's a somewhat common media 'mistake' referring to a round canopy as conical in shape. Just a case of 'them' not understanding the word has a different more accurate meaning within the industry than it may to the general public. Obviously a concern when actual accurate facts are needed and not just general storyline descriptions. It happens SO often that in some of the other threads on this site news articles are picked apart and ridiculed for the wording...which to 'us' tells an entirely different story than is intended or is factual. I usually do a dozen or so interviews annually for radio, local to an event television & newspapers ~ I often find myself 'correcting' misused terms and inaccurate understanding of what I'm being interviewed about. Just part of the game I guess. _______________________________________________ And with your level of expertise and intelligence and command of the English language, I'll bet you do very well. Is it possible to catch one of your radio interviews someday? MeyerLouie

Jo: This is all I know about this, and it isn't much. Agent Fred Gutt told me on the phone that the DNA sample can eliminate someone, but can't confirm them 100% as the hijacker. Georger may know why Gutt said this. I heard the butts were lost while being sent from one location to another, supposedly. I guess it doesn't matter much HOW they were lost, since they are now definitely gone. Too bad. It was their best DNA source. ______________________________________________ It was their one, best source of DNA, and they lose it. The best evidence that could have helped find our guy -- gets lost. How frickin' unbelievable is that!! I'm not saying a DNA profile would have gotten our guy, but all of the usual suspects, like KC and Weber, could have been checked out and ruled out. Then there'd be no Blevins or Jo. As thorough and complete as the FBI usually can be in their investigations, it just doesn't add up that they lost the butts. How likely is that? In my mind, very very very unlikely, as in probability is close to zero. I say something is rotten in Denmark. Maybe KC took 'em. Maybe Duane took 'em. Maybe the FBI purposely took 'em because they conspired with the government to force the airline industry's hand in doing something about airline safety. Tthat theory isn't any more far-fetched than the KC fairy tale. Blevins actually looks down his nose at you, BK. Can you actually believe that?!. MeyerLouie

That is a load of BS, and you know it. I have stated on numerous occasions I thought you were an educated guy. I have never called anyone here stupid, not even when they tossed insults my way. I don't like using that word on people. To me, it's almost a curse word. I understand that some folks might not agree with that post I made today relating bashing, and constantly using ME as the subject of the thread, to increased sales at AB. But it is 100% the truth. Another truth is that you and Meyer spend most of your time talking about RMB, rather than DB Cooper. Don't you realize all you really accomplish is to drive internet traffic my way? You've accused me of being here to 'promote a book'. Hell, I don't need to do that with you and Meyer around. _______________________________________________ First of all, the statement above made by Georger is absolutely true. You prove with every post you make, this one being no exception. Another thing, you should be permanently banned from the forum for publicly stating that this forum is making you money. That goes against everything that this forum is about. If AB sales are going up, you shouldn't be saying it's because of you being here. This is such a violation of protocol, and you should be banned permanently. I've said all along that the primary reason you are here is to peddle your wares. That's it. You lack the intelligence to do much of anything else. You prove that every day. I hope Quade looks at what you have done here. It's a new low, Blevins. MeyerLouie

In reality, these are the three people I believe have caused the most damage to the thread, in this order: #1) Robert Blevins - Because he is incompetent, inept, and can't quit talking even when he says really stupid things. 2) Bob Knoss - Because he does the same thing on every Cooper thread he can find. Dropzone's just another stop for him. He goes to every article, every forum where they haven't banned him. 3) Meyer Louie - Because he spends all of his time whining about me, instead of addressing the case. It's his latest mission in life. (Yawn) 4) Georger - Because he should know better. Georger isn't stupid, and I know he's worked on the case for years. .... So go ahead and bash all you want. It just makes those monthly deposits bigger that I get from Amazon. There's an old saying: 'Any publicity, or bad publicity, is GOOD publicity.' Thank you very much. ______________________________________________ And now you are telling us that you are making money because there are some us who know how little credibility and intelligence you really possess. Now that's pathetic, which means you're pathetic, and always will be. Once again, it's a new low, troll. By the way, I don't give a shit about what you think of me posting at 3 am. None of your frickin' business. Just keep picking the low hanging fruit, troll. You do not possess the skills or intelligence to do anything else. MeyerLouie

_________________________________________________ Well, Blevins is single-handedly ruining this forum, and if I didn't think so, I wouldn't say it. We now have the "Robert Blevins Show", it's the most attention he's ever gotten his whole life, and he is loving it. We all went to high school with guys just like him. I have tried on many occasions to offer my research and analysis to the thread. Virtually every time I do, Blevins butts right in, goes to the front of the line, writes his ridiculous, unfounded, stupid 20 paragraphs -- thus leaving little room for others to offer their input. He hogs 25% of the air time here. I actually care about this forum, I would like to get more information, expertise, and knowledge from more of our forum participants -- the ones who really who know their stuff, like you. Those people are dwindling in numbers here. Instead we've got people like Blevins who talk just to talk, who hog the show, and who demonstrate their ineptness and incompetence pretty much every time they open their mouth. I'm pretty much tired of it -- maybe it's time to move. The idiots have taken over. Now you know why I say what I say and do what I do here. MeyerLouie

Well, like Robert Redford said to Paul Newman in Butch Cassidy: You quote movie lines that have no significance to the DB Cooper forum. _______________________________________________ It ain't just movie lines....... MeyerLouie

EVickW wrote: ...Go ahead and tell me I am overacting. Were the next words out of your mouth going to predict my menstrual cycle? _________________________________________________ It's a secret...don't tell anyone....but Blevins can predict the future.... he goes to a psychic. He gets these visions of Wonder Woman driving 3 big horses abreast. He even sees things that aren't there. His motto: "I call 'em as I see 'em, and if I don't see 'em, I make 'em up." What a guy, huh? MeyerLouie

Vicki: Only stupid people don't have the sense to admit when they're wrong. And the smart ones do the right thing and make a correction. That's how we LEARN. ______________________________________________ Blevins saying something without first doing the research???????????......... Gee, I never noticed that before (ha!). You've probably noticed, I've been complaining about that very thing for months and months. .......... f you did the research in the first place, and got it right to begin with, Blevins, then you wouldn't find it necessary to apologize. How smart is that, or should I say, how stupid is that? You're the one who made the comparison -- stupid v. smart. You keep telling on yourself, Blevins....you just can't seem to help yourself. MeyerLouie

You have a driving need to make sure people understand just how smart YOU are, and how less-smart OTHERS are. _______________________________________________ No Blevins, Georger is just trying to show how less-smart you are -- which is my objective as well. MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ I don't use psychics for research. I use solid interview techniques, documentation, available evidence, and ridiculous, outlandish statements that have no basis in logic or intelligence. ______________________________________________ ..... I made that contained legit questions, updates, and theories about the murder of Earl Cossey. I'd say 'legit' is a real stretch. MeyerLouie ______________________________________________ Think about it. You used a tragedy to throw crap at me, just because that was the only thing I had posted on lately. What is that? Do you think Cossey deserves this kind of treatment? Do you have no regard for his family, or their feelings? Or is your hatred for me so deep that you would use anything or anyone as an excuse to create another Alice-in-Wonderland barb aimed at me? Really, it is pathetic. _______________________________________________ Oh, cry me a river, cry baby. Stand on your own two feet and quit whining. MeyerLouie

_______________________________________________ You put BK at the bottom of the scale? Ha, now that's laughable. Better put yourself on that end of your little scale too, below BK. You think you have more credibility than BobKnoss? Not a chance, never, nada, zip. You, of all people, criticizing someone else. MeyerLouie

Say there, smart guy. Let me know when you finish editing more than fifty books, write five of your own, do an illustrated sci-fi mag, run a publishing company...and in your spare time create 500 illustrated articles on subjects from A to Z...and then get more than 3 million visitors to those articles. (Google Analytics data) (If you wish, you can look below and take a peek at what I call The First 48. I got plenty 'o smarts, my friend. ) Then you can tell me to go to the sandbox. LOL. Get real. I didn't just fall off the apple cart, you know. You keep on flappin', but I don't hear anything coming out that makes much sense. Not lately. _______________________________________________ Respect from YOU? What makes you believe I need something like that? You flatter yourself in the extreme. Trust me. I don't live for your approval LOL. _____________________________________________ Nor anybody else's, troll.