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1.8 I have jumped it twice. Great canopy (pd106) "tight spot" is a relative term. I would not want to land it in MY back yard. Mabey in yours though? It is considerably larger than my main however. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I think this depends on the size of the canopy as that will effect how much line is below the brake setting. Large canopies could leave enough line to catch on something? If this bothers you than try to avoid it. There are a few things to keep in mind if you decide to go this route. Smaller canopies pose less of a problem. I have not stowed my excess line in several years. You do need to be aware when you unstow your brakes that you do not reach through the excess line. ( hard to do on smaller canopies) Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Betzy, Thanks but I have no shortage of risers at the present, besides I believe you stock Relative Workshop risers which is not my preference in risers. Thanks anyway. Thanks also for your concern that I need more information although I am quite content with my knowledge of tapes and the adhesives they contain. I have seen quite a few major manufactures put tape on their demo gear to identify what canopies were inside. They do not seem to concerned either. Perhaps they are performing a great injustice by putting us, the unaware jumper, at risk when demoing their products. If I ever do for some reason decide to put tape on my risers and leave it on long enough to possibly damage the webbing ( which I would attribute to poor maintenece more that anything) I will make sure to grab another set out of my closet and dispose properly of the questionable risers. Again thanks for your concern, Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Just for the record when I said this: I was in no way including myself in that group. Some of them that do feel that way have thousands of jumps and I did not feel that the rock example was going to get them to understand after all these years. Perhaps rather than implying it was a bad example, I should have said I thought it was an ineffective example. I think those who feel it is a good example are the ones that do not need to be conviced. Regardless, I could care less about trying to convince someone experienced that they hae been wrong for their entire sydiving career. It's not hurting anyone. (unless they are instructors I guess) Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I would hardly call comparing a rock to a ram air canopy with forward movement a great example. It really does nothing to counter those who feel the wind exposed to the top of the canopy uring a turn make it dive harder. Rocks fall with the pull of gravity. Canopies fly. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I sure wish people would stop telling us what to do with our own rigs. Suggestions are nice, but what I do with my rig is my business so long as it does not affect the TSO That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

While that certinaly can be a concern for the first few jumps, it is not the main concern that come people have for short recovery arc canopies. The problem could be that since you have to turn so much closer to the ground you have a very small margin for error. On the other hand, if you are usually doing a 270 from over 600 feet, starting the turn to low gives you a lot of time to pick up and adjust. Canopies that continue to dive longer give you much more of an chance to dig yourself out also. Turn to low on a canopy that you are doing a 270 from 200 feet, you have very little altitude to adjust and even less if you fail to and need to dig yourself out. Make sense? Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Alan You need to relax Go back and read my post and you will see that I at no point was trying to get in to the middle of Bill and your disagreements. I went so far as to finish up with a statement to the liking. All I meant to do was offer my experiences with altimeters and swooping which followed the context of the thread. As I remember I was not really offering opinions so much as I was passing on my experience. I guess my only mistake was responding to your post which made you feel as though I was taking issue with what you were saying. Geez. Sorry about that. Can you respond to someones post only when you disagree, or are you allowed to when you may share similar views. How have you been doing Alan? You still owe me some Leinenkugels. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

While I definitely used an altimeter early on, I also went several years without one after it was stolen. My swoop accuracy improved greatly after I quit jumping with one. While I tried to never rely on it before, I often times couldn't resist a glance at it and many times it caused me to second guess my sight picture. This could have been caused by an inaccurate impression of where I was actually starting my dive from. I had heard many jumpers who were not performing nearly as long of swoops rattle of big numbers of how high they started their maneuvers. Perhaps my altimeter was terribly inaccurate. What ever the case was, when I second guessed my sight picture and went by my altimeter I was usually disappointed. Before I went to Rantoul in 2002 my Girlfriend bought me an altimeter and made me promise I would wear it. It was either that or an audible or a Cypres(She was not going to buy the latter!) The first couple of jumps I did use the altimeter as it was a different site picture not having any trees or whatever next to the pond. My accuracy on those jumps was not nearly what I was used to. It was hard for me not to glance at it even though I had jumped without one for so long. However after not using it , I was entering the pond very consistently. I do not know how this is relevant, but I just thought I would add that it was very hard for me to get accurate swoops using an altimeter. Again this could have been caused by my misconseption of how high I had been used to starting my landing maneuver. So for whatever thats worth. To Bill on your following comment This is the reason that some argue against learning how to swoop on canopies with short recovery arcs. You have to turn them very low to the ground creating a very narrow margin for error. On many modern canopies, a turn that is low enough to put you into a wheelchair the rest of your life can be well over 100 feet to low of being a good swoop. Sometimes much more. I really don't think there are many canopies out there that the difference between a good swoop and disaster is only 20 feet. I don't think I have jumped any of them. Anyways- I'll let you all get back to arguing. My post was not meant to be a part of it. Later, Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

That jumper in that picture had a very low round opening. ~15 ft.? I watched from the landing area after my last jump. Almost 3:00? Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Not sure if you are serious? I reserve repack would cost me at least $35. Since most lineovers are steering lines, Given the time I am going to cut the line before I even think about chopping it. (assuming I have a knife). A lower steering line should not cost more than $10. btw- what's up with all the lineovers people are claiming in this thread. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I would say that is a pretty safe bet . With field elevation set at 1500' I would hope it would not fire much above 2250' Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Not if you both let go of the controls evenly. When doing preplanned docks on my buddies St120 or Xaos 95, we have left the brakes set on the top canopy until in the Bi-plane. This way we are able to get together very quickly after opening with little altitude loss. Bottom person can easily fly in and dock while the top person has his hand free to help if needed. We like to do a line dock right into a bi-plane by having enough lift available to fly it up at the last second. The Top dock is something else I will consider, but probably not on his Xaos(HMA). Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I understand that compatible may be a relative word , and since the majority of my CRW jumps have been done on highly loaded 7 cell x braced canopies- I don't have much to compare relative to. I have an FX85 that I have done CRW many times with, and it has flown fairly stable with everything from a pd190 to a Xaos 95. There are several Stiletto jumps in there as well and they always flew well once in a Bi-plane. While the side by side can be somewhat tricky, we have gone from the (offset)bi-plane right to the downplane when attempting it. We have landed the 85/95 combo (bi-plane of course) I have spent a lot of time watching pilot chutes and have never seen a problem with ours. This is not to say that this is a good idea or should be attempted by everyone, but my FX flies great with most of the canopies I have played with. I normally fly a Xaos 27 and have done a few stacks with it, but I kept the FX to use for planned CRW jumps. Be careful and realize what you are getting into. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

It a fact? Sorry "Stainless Steel" will rust or corrode. There are many grades/types of Stainless. Some grades are very resistant to corrosion but are also too soft for many applications. The term "Stainless" is a very vague term. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I am not the only one who doesn't understand why you are blaiming PEC. They were not your dealer! Yet you came on this forum and slandered them. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Your dealer? Or the distributor that your dealer ordered the canopy from? Unless you are leaving out information, I do not understand how you are Blaming the distibutor(PEC) for this error. And then to blast him on here lie this. I understand why they do not want to do business with you again. They did not sell the canopy to you but you place the blame on them? Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

They are Dacron Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Sounds like a good policy to me. PEC is acting as a wholesaler in this instance selling to your dealer. Many dealers fear that a wholesaler will take their customers direct if they have the chance and cut the dealer out of it. Many will. From the information you have given, I do not see why you are blaming PEC! Sounds like the mistake was made between you and your dealer who probably made next to nothing on the sale. Hope it works out for you Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I can stop my F150 faster in wet snowy conditions with my antilock brakes disconected. No question about it. Just one reason why I do not like them. They are great for a large percentage of drivers, but not for everyone. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Yes, but you replaced the word responsive with... and never defined your idea of performance. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Should they? Are you sure they don't? I might think that the group with less experience would have more accidents than the group with much more experience and currency. I think you have been trying to convey this yourself only you insist on throwing wingloading in the statement. (Or do you think experienced folks are at a higher risk of getting injured because the do more jumps per year?) Now factor in that the group with less experience also has the most participants.... Oh -but they don't crank out that many jumps so they should not get hurt as much. I see. (not to be confused with I agree) Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I says that I would like to find out the % of jumpers under 500 jumps vs. over. I was under the impression that there were more jumpers in the first catagory. That said, could one not expect people with less experience to make more mistakes causing more injuries regardless of wingloading. Is this poor logic? Should we expect those with more experience to get hurt more often and consider anything less a problem? Wow Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Depends on who you ask. The word "low" is relative hence my question which you did not answer. Giving out advice that a low turn will kill you without any idea of what someone else may consider a low turn is, in my opinion, not very sound advise. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

WILL kill you? You crack me up Ron. Here I have been trying to drill into my girlfriend that low turns save lives. Nevermind-just fly into the tree's, powerlines, freeway, building, alligator infested pond, or whatever you are heading at, but for god sake don't perform a properly executed low turn. It WILL kill you. Do you actually use this line in a FJC? If so do you define a low turn? This attitude is why LeeAnn would never turn below a certain point when I met her. I watched her land right in front of a line of trees when we were landing off one day as she flew towards them from a couple hundred feet. Can you say panic turn! Josh Low turns save lives That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.