TomAiello

Is that the same 4-seconds-to-impact flight that Jeb did off TM? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Let's stick this to the top for a while. I've jumped many of the world's most popular sites, and the cave is my absolute favorite. I like it better than the walls in Norway, the cliffs in Southern Europe, the buildings in Malaysia, the bridge by my house--heck, better than any other site. It's definitely worth working to save. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Check out this MINI. The parts to do this mod from a stock car are sold as a kit, and run about $8000. There are some scary fast modified cars running around out there. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

John, have you actually used those? If they perform as advertised, they're pretty amazing, at the price. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

It's the traditional style. The speedo is available mounted in front of the driver as an option, or automatically gets moved to the driver's side if you get the optional extra gauge package or GPS navigation system. Personally, I think the center speedo is pretty cool. It allows the passenger to tell you how fast you're going when you are zipping around corners too fast to take your eyes off the road. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

They start around $20k. You can find prices for various models/options on their web site. They range from the basic 115 hp version (basically a street legal go kart) up to a highly tuned, supercharged 205 hp model (try to imagine 205 hp in a 2000 pound car). -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

It's the only car I've gone back to test drive again--not once, but twice. I think I spent a total of about two and a half hours test driving three different cars. So much fun it's crazy. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Skydiving. It's marketed to make kids think it's cool, which makes them do all kinds of silly things. Eventually they end up as delinquent bums living on DZ's. It's horrible, I tell you, and it must be stopped. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

I'm pretty sure that every jumping group knows this, though, and no jumpers leave a line hanging into the cave. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

I can't stop laughing. See attached photo of new car (should get it around the middle of next month) and you'll see why. edit: One day, we'll look back on big cars and laugh. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

A quick googling find this. Unfortunately, it's not exactly an unbiased source. I'll keep digging around. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

By "something" do you mean a co-temporal verifying source for a biblical event? For example, Roman records of some of the events in the bible? I'm pretty sure there is some historical verification available. Not being religious, I'd have to dig around on the internet and look. Perhaps someone who is more christian-inclined has such things handy? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

I have no idea who Robert Knight is, but let's just look at the quote: "Homosexuality has never been considered morally good." I'd dispute that. I can think of several cultures in which homosexuality was, in fact, considered morally good. And many, many more in which it was regarded as having neither positive nor negative moral value (just as in many societies relations between men and women are viewed as neither positive nor negative, but simply a matter of personal choice. As an aside, you can find societies that found all kinds of things to be "morally good". Those things include a huge number of things we generally reject, such as gratuitous warfare, killing, pedophilia, mandatory religious conversion, arranged marriage, and even slavery. The list goes on.... -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Nightingale, you're defining the group to your own advantage. If you define the group of people who's evidence you won't accept in this way (i.e. pretty much everyone religious), you're eliminating any evidence presented by the majority of the world's population. Look at it this way: If someone came up with good evidence, you'd probably label them part of that "group", and hence their evidence illegitimate--even if they were outside the group (i.e. unbelievers) when they began to gather the evidence. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Which stats? I'd have guessed the number was much lower. Do you have a reference for that (that isn't provided by a group with a vested interest)? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Homosexuals are sentient, and can consent to marriage. Animals presumably lack the ability to understand and consent to such an arrangement. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Jay, Two questions: 1) Do you have a snail mail address to send letters to? At least in the States, snail mail letters (especially non-form letters) usually get much more attention than email in political campaigns. 2) Is there any way you could write up a letter in Spanish that those of us without the language skills could attach to our own letters? That might help us look more interested and considerate. Thanks! Does anyone here have the web skills to set up a page that automatically generates an email with the sender's name and return email address? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Ah, now there's our common ground. Personally, I'd take that further and say that the State ought not to be in the business of sanctioning marriage at all, leaving individuals free to regulate their own relationships to each other as they wish. My (female, heterosexual, christian) wife will be pleased to hear that I am not a candidate for marriage to anyone else. Seriously, though, it bothers me exactly zero if any consenting adult person or persons wishes to marry any other consenting adult person or persons. I don't think they ought to get any government benefits for doing so, but I also don't think my wife and I ought to get any benefits from the government for our decision to marry. In fact, if someone wants to declare themself married to their dog, horse, or car, that's just not really any of my business. I'd hope that (given the current societal environment) they would be sure to ensure other ways that the dog/horse/car could be cared for should they die (the provision of such care presumably being one of their primary motivators for invoking the sanction of marriage upon such a relationship). Decisions as important as marriage and child-rearing just shouldn't be trusted to the government. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Take up a new and all consuming hobby. I recommend BASE. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Ok, how's this: The state has no place interfering in my or anyone else's family life. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Hmmm. I hadn't heard that Robi had moved over to this side of the pond... -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

I do not want the state having anything to do with my family life. The state can't even balance it's own budget. It has no place interfering in my (or any one else's) family life. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

You don't need a neurosurgeon, you need a physiatrist. A physiatrist is an MD who specializes in physical medicine and rehabilitation--in other words, getting you back into your life after the surgeon puts you back together. I saw a physiatrist who was able to recommend some really simple things (daily anti-inflammatories, physical therapy, etc) that have reduced my back pain (I have three fused vertebrae after two different jumping related spinal injuries) tremendously. You might want to check out the AAPM&R page. Listings for physiatrists in NY are here. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

Not directed at outrager: Ok, enough people. If you want to try this thread again, we'll see how it goes the second time. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com

On the west coast, that move is generally referred to as an "under". The Tahoe guys have been doing quite a few of them. I think if you had some kind of seat belt to hold yourself in while you kited the canopy, you could actually get pretty good heading. The problem appears to be that you can't both line the canopy up in a strong tailwind _and_ hold yourself onto the object at the same time. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com