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Thanks, there are several freeflyers among us, but I think Houston is a long way for a weekend trip. I'll pass the word, though. Blues! Steve "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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We're both of Irish ancestry. He's the guy with the nickname "Irish" I'm the guy with the busted up lip! "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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People say we look alike, but I don't see it. No relation. I like his acting. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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You just don't like Black Irish Jews of royal European descent, do you? "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Dude. Not cool. I'm Irish. I'm allowed. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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OK that clarifies it. Being originally a Northerner, I'm a believer in filing charges against violent non-friends. But yeah, I'd probably make an exception for a friend. That being said, he'd be an ex-friend. Zero tolerance for violence. When he sees all his friends peeling off, he might get himself some help. If he's a close friend, give him a "get help" ultimatum, explain that you're not going to see or speak to him for some time (say, 3 months ... whatever), and why, and then make it stick. Hopefully in the long run you'll be helping him. But you need to get a chronically abusive friend out of your life. Been there, got the t-shirt. Sounds like rational advice. Thank you. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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The I is me. Irish has no business trying to teach in the first place-he's not even a coach, much less an instructor. If he (or anyone else) omits a critical step, like looking above you when you pull, you better believe I'm going to speak up. No lovers spat. I thought I was getting my drunk friend to his room safely, and he attacked me. It's not my DZ....Not my call to ban him or not. That would be up to the DZO. I'm posting all this shit to make him think twice about threatening or attacking anyone in the future. I'm not resorting to violence to accomplish it. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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About 25 of us from Missouri, Arkansas, & Oklahoma will be invading Skydive Dallas Friday, Saturday and Sunday...Who else will be there?
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Hypothetically, here's what went down: "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Hypothetically, let's call him Irish. Yes, hard to believe, a Drunk, beligerant Irishman... "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Thats what's happening, hypothetically, on our local forum. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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The passenger(drunk attacker) The driver(sober attackee) So the sober guy was driving the drunk attacker home? The same drunk attacker who has been making threats to the sober driver ... If the sober driver is dumb enough to take the drunk attacker home, I would just say "FUCK THEM BOTH". Are they friends or something? Maybe they just need to work all of this out between the two of them. Yes, they were friends. The attacker had threatened physical violence to at least 3 fellow jumpers, not just the "sober, designated driver, attackee", in the previous months. This is all hypothetical, of course. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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The passenger(drunk attacker) The driver(sober attackee) "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Hypothetically- You have a person at the dropzone that has been threatening other jumpers the last few months, and finally acted on his threats by attacking a fellow jumper. The attack takes place off the dz(while the victim was driving the attacker's drunk ass home from the dz), and was unprovoked. What should be done? (edited for clarity) "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Skies are a little less safer.........
stevebabin replied to tkhayes's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Good Job, TK!! "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." -
I don't know you, but my thoughts are with you guys. Let us know if ya'll need anything... And I agree-Cancer Sucks...I'm a survivor. Blues, Steve "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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For example, a DZ jumper/employee that has no other viable place to jump/work at, sees an incident that is covered up by the DZ or simply not reported, decides to post anonymously so that it is reported and things can be learned from it and the cover-up exposed, without fear of reprisal. I understand that, Billy, but I don't see it happening like the posts that are just trying to destroy a business or someone's reputation. Sorry I wasn't more clear...I meant actual posts as examples of anonymous posters doing good. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Can anyone show me some examples of an anonymous poster adding to the value of an incident thread? I'm sure they're there, I just see so many more of the shit stirrers. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Timmeh!!! You've been posting for a long time..Obviously, you're not one who just got a profile to stir up unnecessary shit. Or DID you? "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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I'm not sure...That's why I asked for suggestions. Filling out a profile with a real name and DZ might be a start. If the person is an imposter, then others from that DZ might regognize it. Not foolproof, but maybe a start. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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The above question is open to anyone.... In most legal systems, the accused has the right to face his accuser. It keeps people from falsely accusing someone without repercussion. Any ideas on how to achieve that here? "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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How would you(or anyone) prevent those with an axe to grind from unfairly harming a business or individual in this forum? "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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I would like to think this also. Unfortunately, I don't think most Whuffos(including survivors and lawyers) have the insight to know when someone has an axe to grind. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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Excellent point. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
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True. There are also small minded people who like to make accusations/cast dispersions from the sanctuary of anonymity. Their only intent is the grinding of a personal axe, not to promote safety or education. When these people post, many times survivors(and their lawyers) are mislead into believing rubbish, and becoming a tool for the anonymous person with the axe to grind. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."